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| [02:18:51] | bill6502: | skd5aner: I'm the quilty party (for the 0.26 release notes.) |
| [02:20:38] | skd5aner: | bill6502: ah, that's right... I noticed a few things that are on there which are a part of 0.25-fixes, do you intend to include those? In the past, I tried to eliminate as much of those items as possible... |
| [02:21:07] | skd5aner: | for example, in the key new features section, it mentions support for the prime without cablecard, but that was put into 0.25-fixes |
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| [02:22:15] | skd5aner: | bill6502: ultimately, whatever you decide is good by me, since I'm out of this picture this go around... just curiosity |
| [02:22:59] | bill6502: | skd5aner: right, just went through it on the -users list. It has been removed as a key new feature, but the commit is still there. I agreed to add a note that says it doesn't apply to OTA tuning (which was the original -users post.) |
| [02:23:48] | bill6502: | skd5aner: FYI, the entire blank index is sitting on the bottom of the page, commented out of course. |
| [02:23:49] | skd5aner: | gotcha – I don't follow the lists very closely |
| [02:24:20] | skd5aner: | thanks again for your efforts!! I'm appreciative someone stepped up |
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| [02:30:14] | bill6502: | Glad to help. I'm sure more corrections will be needed, but its a start. |
| [02:33:48] | bill6502: | gigem_: On the subject of 0.26 Key New Features, I noticed a lot of your work, but only highlighted: Added recording rule templates [71c65b]. Do agree? |
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| [03:47:03] | wagnerrp: | SteveGoodey: fish... trout... its the standard bludgeoning implement on IRC |
| [03:47:44] | wagnerrp: | except too many mythtv devs in washington, so they like to use salmon |
| [03:47:57] | SteveGoodey: | Something I've learned, ta. |
| [03:49:53] | SteveGoodey: | Monty Python job. Ha. |
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| [05:49:52] | Beirdo: | !salmon wagnerrp |
| [05:49:52] | ** MythLogBot plants a salmon upside the head of wagnerrp on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [05:49:55] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [12:33:38] | Seeker`: | are there any plans to increase the |
| [12:33:57] | Seeker`: | number of widgets animation can be used on from just window? |
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| [12:45:46] | stuartm: | Seeker`: yes |
| [12:52:29] | Seeker`: | stuartm: any timeframe in mind? |
| [12:55:16] | stuartm: | no going to commit to anything |
| [12:55:18] | stuartm: | not |
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| [14:40:51] | gigem_: | bill6502: I hope you check the logs. There are two other changes worth mentioning. First, there are some schedule editor enhancements. Steppes is the only public theme I know of using them so far. Second, there are some more scheduler optimizations that should noticably reduce most schedule times. Those changes include support for incremental EIT reschedules, but nobody has updated the EIT scanner to |
| [14:40:53] | gigem_: | take advantage of them yet. |
| [14:41:39] | gigem_: | dekarl: Regarding your back-to-back recordings, can you send me the output from "mythbackend -v schedule --testsched"? If you're using master, then also add "--loglevel debug". |
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| [15:16:53] | stuartm: | gigem_, stuarta: we can look at doing that early in the 0.27 cycle |
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| [15:26:20] | wagnerrp: | does anything think it would make much sense improving the video library management capabilities in the frontend, versus building something into the backend web server? |
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| [16:08:40] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: yes, I don't believe the only way to perform tasks should be to fire up a second computer and go to the browser |
| [16:09:29] | wagnerrp: | im talking about things like mass deletion, editing groups of videos at a time, etc... |
| [16:09:52] | wagnerrp: | things that make more sense to do with a mouse |
| [16:10:45] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to trying to come up with some elaborate library manager that can be worked with a simple remote |
| [16:11:12] | stuartm: | that would negatively impact on people interested in deploying commercial MythTV boxes etc – "The all in one mythical convergence box, control it all via a remote control and a TV*" *Requires a computer and web-browser to configure and to manage files |
| [16:11:46] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: the frontend version of those things doesn't have to be as easy to use IMHO, just possible |
| [16:11:49] | wagnerrp: | im not talking about removing existing functionality, just adding new |
| [16:12:27] | stuartm: | e.g. you can multiple delete recordings by toggling the ones you want to delete and then choosing 'delete all selected' |
| [16:12:27] | wagnerrp: | like right now, you can manipulate the content in any fashion you want, a single video at a time, going through multiple levels of menus and windows to do so |
| [16:13:15] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: the functionality exists for recordings, and it's very simple, it just needs someone to copy/paste it into videodlg.cpp |
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| [16:20:07] | dekarl-too: | gigem_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1136416/ the log and some notes |
| [16:21:17] | dekarl-too: | stichnot, could you reproduce http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10954 with the sample? |
| [16:22:27] | stichnot: | dekarl-too: I could reproduce the fact that the playback OSD menu doesn't offer any subtitle tracks, but I haven't gotten a chance to dig any further than that... |
| [16:23:09] | dekarl-too: | stichnot, sounds good. Then its not just me :) |
| [16:24:02] | stichnot: | right. You had some analysis later on IRC suggesting the subtitle was in a "private" stream, or something like that, right? |
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| [16:26:58] | gigem: | dekarl-too: I'll take a look after lunch. What programs do you think should be back-to-back and aren't? |
| [16:28:00] | stichnot: | superm1: I noticed that the packaging is now picking up themes/fonts/README* . For completeness, are you also getting tiresias_gpl3.txt (which has been there for several releases, I believe)? |
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| [16:38:37] | dekarl-too: | stichnot: I have marked the ones that I would have expected to record the earlier one, this sample is not back-to-back but on two channels on the same multiplex |
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| [16:42:39] | dekarl-too: | IT lo |
| [16:43:34] | dekarl-too: | it looks like "olypmia live" collides with "private practice" and "the mentalist". But they should simply be schedule on both physical tuners |
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| [16:51:24] | superm1: | stichnot: to be honest, those need to be shuffled somewhere else |
| [16:51:36] | superm1: | like copied to debian/copyright or so |
| [16:51:41] | superm1: | just haven't gotten around to shuffling it right |
| [16:54:11] | stichnot: | superm1: ok, thanks. |
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| [18:49:24] | pppoe_dude: | hi there |
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| [19:35:09] | dekarl-too: | bill6502, i hope you read the logs, too. Custom recording rules that look for prime time (or other specific times of day) need to be manually changed similar to the "prime time" filter, see http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/commit/?id . . . 20bd0f76ea6e I'm not sure how that fits into the Release Notes though |
| [19:40:02] | dekarl-too: | wagnerrp, I concur. I'd like to see an editing capability similar to launchpads bug editor for recordings (would fit videos, too). I find myself picking up the episode title from the description (with help from google & co) to help the metadata lookup. In launchpad I can just click on the bug title and correct it, then safe. While it can be done via a remote and the frontend its not really sexy. |
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| [20:54:54] | stuartm: | dekarl-too: really sexy would be auto saving using javascript + ajax, no need to click save, it would just save changes as you navigate away from fields and if you edit the title/subtitle/series/episode automatically do a metadata lookup too |
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| [20:56:06] | stuartm: | and yes, javascript + ajax is technically redundant before anyone points it out |
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| [21:20:25] | gigem: | dekarl-too: What programs in the log you posted earlier do you think should be back-to-back and aren't? |
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| [21:39:05] | dekarl-too: | gigem, in that log its the first three programs that are scheduled later. I can create a sample of the back-to-back ones tomorrow or friday (only 3/4 days of guide on the relevant channel) |
| [21:40:37] | dekarl-too: | I don't see why its not recording the earlier showings |
| [21:44:06] | dekarl-too: | gigem, I just scheduled a different series and it planned as expected, but these get episode titles (via EITFixups) |
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| [21:45:26] | dekarl-too: | Hi bill6502, do you read the logs? http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2012-08-08:14:40 and http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2012-08-08:19:35 ;) |
| [21:47:32] | bill6502: | dekarl-too, gigem, Hi, yes I read those. The source for the commits was: git log --pretty='*{{gitcommit|%h}}: %s%n=-=-' --reverse \ |
| [21:47:34] | bill6502: | --no-merges v0.26-pre..HEAD | grep -v "<pre></pre>" |
| [21:49:09] | bill6502: | dekarl-too: The special instructions include a reference to a Wiki I wrote on the time zone/mysql requirement when that showed up on the -commits list. |
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| [21:50:14] | bill6502: | gigem: thanks for your response, both of those were added to the Key New Features. I hadn't put them there because the end user won't see the value 'til the EIT fix is added, |
| [21:50:45] | bill6502: | and I missed the Steppes requirement for the other (which is bad 'cause I'm a Steppes user.) |
| [21:52:20] | bill6502: | s/were added/were added today/ |
| [22:09:08] | gigem: | bill6502: All users should see a noticable improvement when editing rules. |
| [22:11:47] | gigem: | dekarl1: I just looked at your first log. I missed your comments on the right side earlier. Sorry. I don't see anything obviously wrong. Private Practice and The Mentalist are moved to later to make room for Olympia live and the first showing of Witness РForerunners is blocked by Querk̦pfe. |
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| [22:25:49] | bill6502: | gigem: The Steppes only comment has been removed (assuming you're referring to code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/d418754, especially where it says: Note: no theme changes are required...) |
| [22:32:13] | gigem: | bill6502: That comment was about the scheduler optimizations in response to "end user won't see the value 'til the EIT fix is added." I can see how you could confuse the issues because I referenced the schedule editor. |
| [22:33:18] | gigem: | The other, theme-related, schedule editor changes are still only applicable to Steppes. The MythCenter-wide them I use personally uses the new features, but I'm not going to force my personal changes on everyone else. |
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