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| [00:04:08] | stichnot: | bill6502: the DEPRECATED_608_TELETEXT message should now appear under "-v general" logging (but only if you are actually displaying such captions) |
| [00:04:54] | stichnot: | I don't want it logged in the decoder so that noise doesn't cause false alarms |
| [00:06:16] | bill6502: | stichnot: Got it. How often does it print (e.g. once per recording?) |
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| [00:25:49] | stichnot: | bill6502: at least once per deprecated caption line |
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| [07:29:35] | Beirdo: | OK, tagged beta |
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| [07:40:03] | stuarta: | Beirdo: it might be an external library, but so is ffmpeg. IMHO it's configure should be run by ours |
| [07:41:11] | Beirdo: | well, ffmpeg is "special" because we borged their configure into ours |
| [07:42:22] | Beirdo: | it wasn't exactly practical to chain from a hacked up configure to a real one that requires autotools ;) |
| [07:42:38] | Beirdo: | anyways, I can look into it again in the 0.27 cycle |
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| [07:44:29] | stuarta: | only reason i point it out is after i did an update. make distclean borked due to lack of makefiles, that happens, normally i fix it with a configure, but in this case it didn't cause i had to do a make to get configure to run |
| [07:45:29] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:45:39] | Beirdo: | OK, you have a good point there :) |
| [07:46:20] | Beirdo: | I've never seen it go sideways, but I'm sure it's a possibility |
| [07:46:43] | Beirdo: | I'll see what can be done |
| [07:47:02] | stuarta: | like you say it isn't urgent |
| [07:47:37] | Beirdo: | fricking high of 90F today... one of the few days I wished I had AC |
| [07:48:22] | Beirdo: | at liek 60–70% humidity |
| [07:49:29] | Beirdo: | ergh |
| [07:49:40] | Beirdo: | this recording's toast |
| [07:49:52] | Beirdo: | first a pile of "waited x time for buffers" |
| [07:50:15] | stuarta: | my dvb-t stick goes out to lunch sometimes with a bunch of i2c errors |
| [07:50:22] | Beirdo: | then another pile of "waited 100ms for decoder to pause" |
| [07:50:25] | stuarta: | only thing for it is a hard reboot of server |
| [07:50:46] | Beirdo: | this was an antenna recording, likely just crap |
| [07:51:39] | Beirdo: | and if I try to skip forward: GetNextFreeFrame() unable to lock frame 100 times. Discarding Frames. |
| [07:52:08] | Beirdo: | should just replace all those error messages with "your recording is crap, delete it" :) |
| [08:00:09] | stuarta: | :) |
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| [09:35:56] | stuartm: | danielk221: no, no threads were actually running at that point |
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| [11:10:21] | stuartm: | wagnerrp, jya: should we add the Nasa.tv stream to MNV? |
| [11:15:07] | stuartm: | showcase the HLS feature properly? |
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| [12:47:14] | danielk221: | stuartm: I think it really is what we thought it was, but it just doesn't occur all that frequently (the bug has been there over a year so it would have to be infrequent). It might be more likely if you only had one core. |
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| [13:35:15] | stuartm: | danielk221: yeah, that's very likely the case, I've been experiencing so many deadlocks in the last two-three months that it's impossible to know which ones were caused by this issue and which were due to the other bugs which we've already fixed, could very well be that the frequency of this one is so low that reproducing it would be difficult |
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| [14:06:37] | danielk221: | hmm, I just realized we didn't fix the video profiles by adding ffmpeg decoding to the end of all our profiles in case a file can't be decoded in HW.. Any objections to pushing that fix now? |
| [14:08:10] | stuartm: | none here, I assumed that was how it already worked |
| [14:10:15] | stuartm: | it is a bug fix IMHO |
| [14:11:04] | danielk221: | right, but once we cut the beta only critical bug fixes can be applied and it's not really critical.. But I don't think we've cut the beta yet.. |
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| [14:35:34] | Captain_Murdoch: | beta was tagged I believe. I've been wondering about the 'critical bugfixes only' policy lately though. why let certain easy to fix bugs with low-risk fixes into the release just because they're not critical. I wonder how well it would work if we just said 'after X date, any bugfixes must be run by the developers list prior to commit' to be decided on a case by case basis. |
| [14:36:47] | stuartm: | IMHO we shouldn't be preventing any bug fixes going in until the RC anyway |
| [14:37:31] | stuartm: | anyway, what's the point of a beta/RC if we don't fix the bugs reported back to us? |
| [14:37:37] | danielk221: | bugfixes can introduce new bugs. but i can see the "run by the developers list" working. |
| [14:39:05] | danielk221: | stuartm: The idea is to prevent minor fixes from causing major regressions. Last minute bug fixes seem to all too often cause regressions. |
| [14:39:13] | stuartm: | trivial bug fixes are usually trivial because they are things like typos or simple logic errors, fixing those doesn't tend to result in the creation of new bugs |
| [14:39:56] | stuartm: | danielk221: IMHO the restriction should be on the complexity of the fix rather than how critical a bug is deemed |
| [14:41:50] | stuartm: | e.g. fixing a typo or copy/paste error has a relatively low probability of introducing new bugs, whereas refactoring a method/class or otherwise changing the order/flow of code has a high probability of creating new issues |
| [14:44:47] | danielk221: | true |
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| [14:48:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | stuartm, yeah, the complexity is why I say run by the list first. one person might think a fix is simple while another thinks it's complex. |
| [14:48:38] | Captain_Murdoch: | typos are easy, but if you just say typo fixes are ok, someone could change a = to += and break something thinking it was just a typo |
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| [15:07:53] | danielk221: | Unfortunately the video display profile change doesn't really qualify as a simple logic error or typo... I think the problem was that I wasn't around when Mark K and JYA added some new profiles and they didn't know about the fallback requirement. |
| [15:08:52] | danielk221: | Without an explicit fallback line we end up falling back to ffmpeg decoding, but we don't have any de-interlacing and may not use the best renderer. |
| [15:09:11] | danielk221: | So it will look pretty bad with interlaced content. |
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| [17:01:54] | stuartm: | jya: progress bar doesn't appear to work for HLS? e.g. if you pause it doesn't show how far behind 'live' you are |
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| [17:05:01] | stuartm: | heh, seeking doesn't work, just returns me to the beginning |
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| [17:20:42] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: not sure why i was pinged on that |
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| [17:39:53] | xris: | huh, no more xorg-x11-drv-i810-devel in fedora... |
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| [17:41:05] | stuartm: | stuarta: sorry, thought you were involved with mnv |
| [17:43:05] | stuartm: | confusing you with Doug maybe |
| [17:44:52] | stuartm: | python guys, names remind me of classical composers, same first initial, easy mistake to make ... |
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| [17:52:44] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [17:54:39] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: that would be.... wagnerrp? :P |
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| [18:08:25] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: uh yeah :) |
| [18:10:33] | stuartm: | auto-complete bit me, hit s + tab instead of w + tab |
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| [23:47:34] | jya: | stuartm: that's nothing to do with HLS, I've noticed a recent change to master where the duration isn't updated for recordings anymore. As for seeking, it depends on what type of stream you are watching. Live stream you can't really seek on them (except how much the provider is buffering, usually 2–3 segments max) |
| [23:48:54] | jya: | danielk221: we used to have ffmpeg fallback profile in the vdpau profiles and others. Then, when I noticed that I didn't work, not knowing the root cause , I just simplified the profile… The issue is much deeper than that unfortunately. |
| [23:50:04] | jya: | stuartm: I'm all for adding some HLS streams, unfortunately, from a demonstration perspective it's pretty screwed up as LiveTV doesn't properly start for IPTV channels. I get a 1 in 5 success on a good day. |
| [23:50:18] | jya: | if you start it with mythavtest or record the stream, then it's perfect |
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