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Saturday, June 16th, 2012, 00:06 UTC
[00:06:30] danielk22: parabyte: Just use --enable-proc-opt, the --tune and --cpu options are just for distro maintainers that need to compile a mythtv that will run on a wide range of cpus.
[00:07:13] danielk22: (And for cross-compiles... really If you aren't reading configure it's best to stay far away from these options.)
[00:07:44] parabyte: danielk22, thank you for the good explanation was digging around the wiki for literally 5 hours trying to find answers. If i decide to compile for arm, i may decide to use those options
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[00:09:52] danielk22: Just look at the gcc docs for arch and cpu and then look at configure after that. ./configure deals with a lot more compilers and architectures that you will need to for a cross-compile so it's best to have a starting point and then search for the arch you are interested in.
[00:11:26] parabyte: is there any specific flags i need to pass to configure or make to enable distcc across my spare workstations
[00:11:42] parabyte: or is this a specific distcc i need to rtfm with
[00:12:58] danielk22: parabyte: Nope distcc is enabled by default. You may want to disable distcc for the first compile to limit places for things to go sideways. Option for that is --disable-distcc
[00:15:59] parabyte: danielk22, thank you, :)
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[00:32:05] danielk22: stuartm: The filters are in ffmpeg somewhere? Do you know where?
[00:35:45] MythBuild: build #9 of master-linux-64bit-icc is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . icc/builds/9
[00:35:53] danielk22: :)
[00:39:05] danielk22: stuartm: Looking at the history I think some of these are ours and some are from mplayer...
[00:55:00] danielk22: stuartm: It looks like the filters are all ours to maintain.. It looks like the overall approach was copied from mplayer and some of the algorithms were initially taken from avsynth and mplayer but were then developed into their own thing (just look at the yadif).
[00:55:47] danielk22: stuartm: It just doesn't look like it's a fork at all, just code that has bits and pieces copied from other projects.
[00:58:20] danielk22: From the looks of things these filters were developed in the early days of MythTV to deal with poor quality analog captures and at that time were under heavy development within MythTV, primarily to enhance the quality of NuppelVideoRecorder recordings. Then just about the time everyone got a PVR-350 and PVR-250 the development stopped and these have just been in maintenance mode since.
[00:59:51] danielk22: The some playback methods can use these as a post process, but that is not their raison d'être.
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[03:18:44] jya: is qjson a new dependency ?
[03:19:00] jya: tu sors pas avec les autres ?
[03:19:11] jya: oops… wrong window
[03:19:48] jya: ld: library not found for -lmythqjson
[03:28:57] jya: something is screwed in the new libs.pro… it tries to link libqmythjson before it's even build
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[05:39:07] Beirdo: jya: libmythqjson is built in the external directory
[05:39:20] Beirdo: and it does exist before libs.pro is even used
[05:39:40] Beirdo: so I don't know what yer doing, but something's not right there :)
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[09:29:16] stuartm: danielk22: yes originally some were taken from mplayer et al, but ffmpeg also forked those and have their own versions
[09:29:28] stuartm: danielk22: libavfitler
[09:29:30] stuartm: filter
[09:30:14] stuartm: e.g. yadif.h
[09:32:22] stuartm: tbh the relationship was clearer when I was looking at the ffmpeg source documentation online – I'd been googling to find the upstream source of a couple of filters
[09:37:12] stuartm: some have approximately the same names, e.g. crop others are renamed, e.g. 'invert' is 'vflip' in libavfilter
[09:39:41] stuartm: fwiw, there are logo detection, blank frame detection, audio silence detection and other stuff in there that might be useful for commercial detection
[09:39:44] stuartm: Beirdo: ^^
[09:40:57] stuartm: even a logo removal filter, I'd love to see how well that works
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[11:08:42] Seeker`: hey]
[11:14:36] Seeker`: any suggestions how to fix this not building: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/107727688/buil . . . BUILD.txt.gz not really played with the packaging scripts before. I assume that it is just trying to install libzmq in the wrong place, but I'm not sure where to change it, or what to
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[11:30:03] gilson585: ok how do I configure time zone support in mysql. the referenced link in a recent commit is dead
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[11:41:12] gilson585: nvm found http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MySQL_Time_Zone_Tables thx
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[13:27:18] Seeker`: Any ideas how to get the build-deb build script working at all?
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[14:21:49] dmfrey: is it possible to enable libcec debugging messages when mythfe starts up in the logs?
[14:22:18] dmfrey: it is finding the cec adapter – pulse-eight usb adapter, but fails to make a connection http://pastebin.com/srZQgPiF
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[14:37:58] stuartm: dmfrey: "--loglevel debug"
[14:40:43] dmfrey: stuartm, will that get applied to libcec logging or is that just for the fe?
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[15:14:45] stuartm: we redirect the libcec logging through our logging api
[15:15:00] stuartm: so yes, it applies to libcec
[15:16:07] stuartm: see mythtv/libs/libmythui/cecadapter.cpp around ln 234 onward
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[15:20:58] danielk22: stichnot: Just FYI I've seen no problems with the seeking changes. And, I've noticed the occasional long pause on short second seeks appears to be gone.
[15:21:38] danielk22: stichnot: FYI2 http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/master-linux-64bit-icc is up, with all those icc warnings.
[15:22:57] danielk22: I'm still not sure of what to make of the cc608decoder.cpp warnings.
[15:27:09] danielk22: We could just replace something like '£' to 0xA3 .. but that's a lot less readable.
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[15:27:32] danielk22: The issue is explained here : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9739070/char-encoding
[15:29:07] danielk22: If our code is compiled under a non-western/non-utf8 character set the '£' can become something else, like 0x3F under the russian character set.
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[15:40:41] danielk22: I'm thinking we should disable that warning and specify that MythTV must be compiled under a UTF-8 locale.. what are your thoughts?
[15:43:13] Seeker`: Now that my connection is more stable; Anyone have any idea why zeromq is causing the build-deb script in packaging to fail?
[15:48:50] sphery: Seeker`: http://pastebin.com/Cvba0Jeq
[15:49:10] sphery: are you installing to a prefix of /usr/lib? using some sort of packaging/staging dir?
[15:49:41] stichnot: danielk22: thanks, I'm taking a look at icc warnings now
[15:50:18] Seeker`: sphery: just running ./build-debs.sh in a subdir of ~
[15:50:40] Seeker`: sphery: the 'proper' mythbuntu build is failing with the same error message
[15:51:07] stuartm: hmm, those 'hidden should be virtual?' warnings aren't quite as helpful as I'd hoped, take '"MythUIType::SetPosition" is hidden by "MythUIButtonList::SetPosition"' – which isn't quite true, they have different signatures/arguments
[15:52:49] danielk22: stuartm: Yep, there are false positives. But look at the MythSocket one. There the signature of the overridden functions in QOIDevice changed and we didn't.
[15:56:04] stuartm: danielk22: oh I'm sure there are are some valid ones too, it's just that the reality doesn't match the initial impression given by those warnings – which is good on the one hand
[15:56:57] danielk22: stuartm: The SetPosition() naming in MythUIButtonList looks a bit odd. I'd expect it to take an argument with that name.
[15:57:02] stuartm: if we're able to suppress the false positives then it might not be too bad, but the chances of new warnings being looked at if they are buried in a long list of false positives ...
[15:57:26] danielk22: stuartm: we can suppress types of warnings, but not instances :|
[15:57:31] stuartm: danielk22: yeah, I'm not sure it's right, I'll have to ask jpabq what he intended there
[15:58:38] stuartm: jpabq: since you're in here ^^
[15:59:46] Seeker`: sphery: I'm guessing it is just a bad default somewhere, btu I've got no idea where exactly to fix it, or what to set it to
[16:00:41] danielk22: stuartm: It's not always a good thing to rush to fix all the warnings. Sometimes that just hides the symptom of code that is broken in some way. It is good to always look at new warnings, which can be difficult when the list of warnings is long so...
[16:00:49] stuartm: in fact never mind, I'm going to rename it anyway since it's confusing, SetPosition() elsewhere sets the X Y coords of a widget, here it's doing something else entirely
[16:01:22] danielk22: stuartm: I guess if we had something that just highlighted warnings new in the last week & month that would be pretty useful..
[16:01:43] stuartm: danielk22: aye, that would help
[16:03:04] danielk22: And of course the full list is useful to, the XDS patch I committed a couple weeks ago fixed a long standing gcc warning which I knew was real but needed the spec to fix properly. (Which I finally bought for a problem at work..)
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[16:03:34] danielk22: stichnot: FYI I do have a copy of the 608 spec now, if you need me to look something up.. (Unless you have a copy?)
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[16:19:06] stuartm: danielk22: "-Woverloaded-virtual" wasn't included when using "-Wall" ?
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[16:25:12] Seeker`: sphery: any ideas?
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[16:37:23] stuartm: hmm, can't say I knew that an implicit conversion of void was allowed to allow foo(); to match void foo(int i) – that I believe is why most of these warnings are happening
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[16:37:46] danielk22: stuartm: I didn't mean to commit that... The gcc overloaded virtual doesn't report the things that icpc/clang do; I was just testing whether whether it was getting left out of -Wall..
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[16:39:21] stuartm: danielk22: it's reporting enough of the same stuff to make me think that they aren't false positives but instead behaviour I didn't expect and don't really understand
[16:40:26] danielk22: Ah, so it wasn't included in -Wall.. and is now getting reported?
[16:43:14] stuartm: danielk22: aye, ~1250 odd warnings :)
[16:43:29] stuartm: http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . ngs%20(1286)
[16:44:23] danielk22: woah! Many repeats though.. header warning multiplication...
[16:44:36] stuartm: aye, same as with icc
[16:45:07] stuartm: you might even wonder if they copy/pasted that check :)
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[16:46:13] stuartm: I'm going to read up and see if there is a solution for some of these examples that doesn't involve mass renames or tagging everything with an 'explicit' keyword
[16:46:26] stuartm: while taking care not to mask genuine issues
[16:49:43] stuartm: not that methods can be explicit ...
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[17:01:28] toeb: hi, i'm trying to build a small bluging and i want to use a jumppoint without going to the mainmenu. So far i found GetMythMainWindow()->RegisterJump(...) which i'm using directly without the makro, because i want exittomain parameter to be false. But if I press the assigned Key while playing a video the assigned method is called twice
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[17:02:34] toeb: this is probably not really supported since the makro is missing... or am i missing something?
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[17:43:04] stichnot: danielk22: I can't remember what question I had about the cc608 spec, but if it comes up again, it's good that you have the spec.
[17:43:52] danielk22: stichnot: Thinking about it I can't imagine how something like '£' can be transformed into something other than 0xa3.. while typing it under another character set may result in a different code, it's an actual 0xa3 which is written to source file, so this code will just look different under a different character set, the actual number used to initialize the char or QChar won't change.
[17:45:21] danielk22: i.e. AFACT it shouldn't matter what character set you compile under, the same code will be produced.
[17:51:25] sphery: Seeker`: no clue how debuild works, but I'm guessing either zeromq is ignoring DESTDIR/--sysroot or whatever or is disallowing the "unregistered" lib (since it's not a libmyth*)
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[17:54:23] sphery: toeb: not sure exactly what you're doing, but you probably want something like REG_JUMPEX (see mythfrontend's main.cpp for usage and mythmainwindow.h for definition). Note that it's what's used to bring up the MythMusic "mini-player" or show the theme-debug widget borders in place.
[17:57:04] Seeker`: sphery: any idea who would know more about it?
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[18:29:05] danielk22: superm1: Did you guys notice uuid has been added as a dependency for master? I just noticed compiling on my production systems which don't have as many devel packages installed..
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[18:41:08] danielk22: hmm: E MySQL time zone support is not missing. Please install it and try again.
[18:41:14] danielk22: not missing?
[18:47:31] stuartm: hah
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[19:25:02] G__S__rk: hello friends!
[19:26:33] danielk22: I looked at what it would take to properly handle the MythSocket problems and it might actually be about as much work to just port to the QTcpSocket and QUdpSocket classes in Qt4..
[19:29:27] danielk22: The core problem is that writeBlock() & readBlock() have become write() and read() resp in Qt4's QIODevice and the signatures of writeData() and readData() have changed.. but the real problem is that we seem to be using these functions all over without checking that they actually read or wrote all the bytes.
[19:30:24] danielk22: Some places to check the return values, but these seem to be the minority.
[19:31:28] Seeker`: danielk22: how did you fix the time support is not missing?
[19:31:56] danielk22: Seeker`: mysql_tzinfo_to_sql /usr/share/zoneinfo | mysql -uroot -p mysql
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[19:45:33] Seeker`: danielk22: thanks
[19:46:59] toeb: sphery: thanks, i will try this
[20:00:39] danielk22: stuartm: What are the IncludeInCacheSize() and ExcludeFromCacheSize() calls in MythImage really intended to do? Is it just to count each reference counted object once in the cache size calculation?
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[20:04:15] Seeker`: why would you do that?
[20:04:31] Seeker`: other than trolling, I mean
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[20:15:13] danielk22: stuartm: As I understand it an image is only counted against the cache size when there is a single reference to it, the cache's reference to it, at any other time it isn't counted against the cache size.
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[20:27:16] sphery: I'm guessing G__S__rk thinks it would be funny to be annoying in a channel while freenode does their services upgrade and no one can kick him, but it seems chanserv is up...
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[21:27:13] stuartm: danielk22: the intent is to just count an image once in the cache size, since there should be only one instance of it if the cache is working
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[21:33:22] Seeker`: three cheers for stuartm
[21:36:56] stuartm: sphery: bizarrely my perms in this channel don't allow me to have ChanServ do the kick/ban, but I do have ops to do it myself :)
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[21:48:51] sphery: stuartm: hehe, I didn't realize chanserv could do it for you (I don't know much about IRC), but don't you need chanserv to op yourself so you could do it? anyway, thanks for doing it
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[21:50:52] stuartm: sphery: yeah, chanserv gives the ops
[21:53:15] stuartm: if you have ChanServ apply the ban then it's registered centrally against their freenode account and has more permanence, they can't just change IP/username to circumvent it, they also have to register a new account
[21:55:51] stuartm: generally with IRC if everyone leaves a channel it ceases to exist, all permissions/bans/topic etc are lost – ChanServ is freenode's way of giving everything more permanence, the services stuff remembers it all and will recreate it where the IRCd would normally forget
[21:56:56] sphery: ah, interesting
[21:58:12] stuartm: so long as you register the channel at least
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[21:59:15] stuartm: freenode still allows for 'temporary' channels, we could all go to #theotherchannel and set a topic, have a discussion then leave and it would all disappear
[22:01:24] stuartm: first person to enter a new channel because the default owner/operator, leave and you lose operator status which can't then be regained, in the past you'd have to give ops to other trusted people who were there when you left so that they could re-op you when you returned
[22:04:39] stuartm: it was a lot more interesting back when everyone was on dial-up and not connected 24/7
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[22:12:31] Seeker`: channel takeovers!
[22:14:15] stuartm: heh yeah, I remember more than one organised DOS attack on an individual who had hi-jacked a channel in an attempt to force them offline and allow the channel to be re-taken :)
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[22:23:20] Seeker`: heh
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[23:13:11] stuartm: cattelan: your connection seems to be a little unstable?
[23:20:17] danielk22: Beirdo: It appears mythfrontend is not exiting on a segfault anymore..
[23:23:01] stuartm: hrrm
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[23:52:07] stuartm: err, with master all my backend logs are going to a file called mythlogserver.log instead of mythbackend.log ...
[23:53:37] stuartm: which probably makes sense given that my sysconfig config is setup to use the process name when creating the log
[23:53:45] stuartm: crap
[23:54:19] stuartm: oh for simpler days
[23:56:30] Beirdo: danielk: it should exit just fine unless somehow we are in a loop with NO threads doing an event handler run, which I'm sure isn't the case
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[23:56:35] Beirdo: wonder what I missed
[23:57:48] Beirdo: I'll take a look in a bit. I have to go out for a bit first
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[23:57:57] Beirdo: curse these nice days on the weekend :)
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[23:59:58] Beirdo: danielk22: if you can get a backtrace of the threads in that condition, it might be helpful

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