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MythBuild, MythLogBot, amejia, amessina, anykey_, brfransen, CaCtus491, caelor, Captain_Murdoch, cattelan, cesman, Chutt, clever, damaltor, danielk22, dblain, dinamic|screen, dmfrey, ElmerFudd, foxbuntu, gregL, GreyFoxx, highzeth, jams, jarle, joe____, joki, jpabq, jstenback, k-man, kc, kwmonroe, mag0o, mike|2, mrand, mrec, peitolm, petefunk, poptix, purserj, rhpot1991, rsiebert_, seld, skd5aner, Slasher`, sphery, stichnot, stuarta, superm1, taylorr, tris, xavierh, XDS2010_, xris, Yancho, ybot_, zombor, Anssi, brtb, Cougar, ghoti, J-e-f-f-A, kurre2, markcerv_, SmallR2002, sraue, sutula, tgm4883, tomimo, Unhelpful, vallor, wagnerrp, wahrhaft, wseltzer, _charly_, stichnot_, ThisNewGuy, mzanetti, dekarl, foobum, jwhite, idl0r, Vernon_at_work, Peps, laga, David_Mi1ler, XChatMav, knightr_, jcarlos
Sunday, May 27th, 2012, 00:28 UTC
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[11:46:39] stuartm: David_Mi1ler: that looks like any older version of mythtv, in 0.25 it's under the Audio section of the settings and looks a bit different
[11:46:49] stuartm: David_Mi1ler: and #mythtv-users is the support channel
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[12:26:01] rays: hey, tring to use mythcommflag on an mpeg1/2 file and getting "Could not find codec parameters"
[12:26:29] rays: using osx, using mythtv 0.25. mpeg file comes from eyetv
[12:27:24] dekarl: rays, is that an mpeg-ts or mpeg-ps file? (btw, #mythtv-users is the support channel)
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[12:33:20] rays: dekarl: I'll try there, and not sure, vlc plays the file and just says the codec is mpeg 1/2
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[13:25:52] Technodrome: I'm really urked right now
[13:26:27] Technodrome: i just found out how locked down commercial dvr's really are
[13:26:30] Technodrome: its nuts
[13:32:48] skd5aner: Technodrome: wrong channel, see topic – you want #mythtv-users
[13:34:11] Technodrome: ah yeah sorry
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[14:59:47] danielk22: stuartm: I've finished my backports to 0.25.
[15:01:13] danielk22: I'd like to see if I can't get IPTV channel switching working after jya's commit to master but I don't know if I'll get around to that this weekend. That would also be a strong candidate for backport.
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[15:46:15] jpabq: danielk22, stuartm, I have re-written the HD-PVR signal monitor with some tweaks to mpegrecorder. These changes make LiveTV work *MUCH* better with the HD-PVR. However, I need to fix a "critical section" bus error. I am working on it, but don't know exactly when I will have it solved correctly.
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[16:27:34] danielk22: jpabq: You can link with something like electric fence to find the first write outside the allocated memory. The problem it might bail somewhere in Qt.. In which case valgrind can be really useful.
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[16:54:47] jpabq: danielk22, I know where the bus error is happening: mpegrecorder.cpp: 1066 "FD_SET(readfd, &rdset);" with http://code.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket . . . onitor.patch
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[16:56:15] jpabq: I tried wrapping that in start_stop_encoding_lock but that seems to be insufficient.
[17:00:04] jpabq: To keep the HD-PVR happy, I added a "delete _device_read_buffer;" in MpegRecorder::StopEncoding, which is how it got to that line of code. With start_stop_encoding_lock protecting that region, I (after many channel changes) can end up with a deadlock.
[17:14:16] stuartm: when was the last time anyone looked at re-syncing the filters? There are a couple of memory related issues with the yadif filter which don't appear to be in the libavfilter version
[17:14:59] stuartm: actually, why are we even using our own version when there's one in libavfilter?
[17:23:25] stuartm: danielk22: idle curiosity, but would the preview generator benefit from using the low res decoder? Assuming that the requested size is smaller or equal to the resulting image of course ...
[17:24:37] danielk22: stuartm: Yes, but probably not that much.
[17:24:42] stuartm: I can't imagine that the decoding time on a single frame would really amount to much ...
[17:25:42] stuartm: yeah, realised that it was a silly question as I hit return, I was just idly thinking about the time it takes to generate previews from high res H.264
[17:26:25] stuartm: that's probably got more to do with the keyframe distances than anything
[17:26:30] stuartm: else
[17:28:22] danielk22: stuartm: Yep, keyframe distances. It's not really due to MPEG-2 vs H.264, you could have long keyframe distances in MPEG-2 too, but in practice you don't.
[17:29:19] danielk22: For preview gen purposes we probably could have a --nearest-keyframe option that would just grab the nearest keyframe.
[17:32:20] danielk22: It's usually a non-issue since the keyframes are usually generated at the end of recording and when you create a bookmark. The only time the speed is really an issue is when you look at a recording still recording.
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[18:32:43] jpabq: stuartm, danielk22: I did the mpegrecorder tweak a little differently, to avoid the need for a mutex. Tested for about an hour without any problems. That being said, I would like to give it another day before committing it — just in case.
[18:33:17] jpabq: stuartm, if you really want to cut 0.25.1 today, My confidence level is high, so I could commit that stuff...
[18:45:34] stuartm: it can wait until you're happy :)
[18:45:54] stuartm: it doesn't take long to do, so I can do it any night of the week
[19:04:21] danielk22: stuartm: where is the version setting in a theme? I need to increment the MythCenter-wide version #
[19:04:55] stuartm: themeinfo.xml
[19:05:05] danielk22: thx
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[21:30:23] danielk22: jpabq: Re: #10765. You should make sure all the new member variables are initialized in the constructor, otherwise static analysis tools will complain + it can result in hard to debug bugs later on as the code evolves and some else assumes all some variable is initialized that isn't.
[21:30:23] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10765 **
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[21:33:01] danielk22: jpabq: It would be good to get someone using a non-HD-PVR MPEGRecorder to test. I know Beirdo is using an analog recorder that uses mpegrecorder.cpp, just because of the changes in how the DRB is used. Other analog mpeg encoding devices don't use the reset on spurious EOF that the HD-PVR uses.
[21:33:23] stuartm: a large number, perhaps the majority of the 'defects' listed by Coverity are initialisation related
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[21:36:04] danielk22: It's understandable. A large number of bugs are caused by relying on uninitialized variables being initialized. It's also frustrating when you know you are doing the right thing, not initializing some large array when you won't use any of the values before initializing them.
[21:40:12] stuartm: good practice to play safe and always initialise member variables in the constructor, mostly for the reasons you've noted :) You can't know that future changes won't add code paths which might end up being called before those variables have been initialised, we've both fixed a lot of bugs related to uninitialised variables in the past
[21:41:05] danielk22: One of the cppcheck "fixes" I'm least proud of was with one of jya's arrays, he only initialized an array starting at the first 16 byte aligned value, since he only used that part of the array. But changed it to initialize the full array to shut up cppcheck. The performance impact was nil, since 15or less bytes among thousands won't impact speed in any real way, but it felt dirty because the code was already correct and theoretically more efficient.
[21:42:34] stuartm: aye, static analysis is imperfect
[21:43:42] stuartm: in instances such as that it is perfectly reasonable to suppress the error instead of adding a workaround just to appease the 'dumb' tool that can't recognise a deliberate design choice
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[21:45:04] stuartm: it's telling that coverity includes an 'intentional' resolution for their defect browser, I suspect that feeds back into future algorithm improvements
[21:46:15] danielk22: Yeah, we should probably turn on the inline suppression in cppcheck.. doing suppression by file & line is fragile to code changes.
[22:00:43] jpabq: danielk22, are you talking about m_timer? What is the proper way to initialized a MythTimer object?
[22:04:28] danielk22: Just init m_stable_time in the ctor init part, not in the body. MythTimer is a class and it's default ctor will be used, so don't worry about it.
[22:06:17] jpabq: Okay. Didn't realized it made much difference between the ctor and the body.
[22:07:10] danielk22: It's not much difference. Just something I noticed reading the code.
[22:07:24] jpabq: I put in the body, just highlight that it was negotiable. In my testing 2 seconds works well. 1 second works most of the time.
[22:08:05] jpabq: I will post a new patch. Thanks for reviewing it.
[22:14:32] danielk22: jpabq: No, need to post a new patch. This is too minor of a thing.
[22:14:53] jpabq: Beirdo, if you get a chance, could you try http://code.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket . . . or-v2a.patch with your non HD-PVR analog capture device?
[22:15:05] jpabq: danielk22, too late :-p
[22:15:11] danielk22: heh :]
[22:17:14] jpabq: danielk22, BTW, "pausing" the DRB was critical in getting the HD-PVR to behave when used with LiveTV. Without the pause, the DRB would trigger the HD-PVR to go back into "encoding" mode, and then it would not be ready to initialize to the new channel, resulting in failures.
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[22:18:20] danielk22: yeah, I'm just wondering if that should only be done when the device is a HD-PVR or if it is safe to always do it.
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[22:23:48] jpabq: danielk22, if you want to play it absolutely safe, it would be easy to wrap that in a check for the hdpvr driver.
[22:24:39] danielk22: jpabq: I wouldn't want to do that unless it's necessary. Special cases always complicate the code.
[22:26:09] jpabq: I could wrap it for 0.25.1, but then unwrap it for master.
[22:30:20] danielk22: Yeah, that would be the safest option.
[22:30:57] jpabq: I will plan on that.
[22:37:34] jya: danielk22: stuartm : I take a different approach to shut up cppcheck or any other static analysis… I report the issue upstream and get them to fix they false positive… All the cppcheck warnings showing up now have been silenced in the current git ccpcheck, or 0.55
[22:39:01] jya: that reminds me, I should remove that 16 bytes aligned bit, and use av_malloc instead, the new ffmpeg requires 32 bytes aligned array
[22:39:22] jya: right.. got to go.. I will be back on myth stuff tomorrow hopefully.. got to finish something else first
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