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Saturday, May 26th, 2012, 00:18 UTC
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[02:08:28] jya_: very cool !!
[02:08:42] jya_: http://git.videolan.org/?p=ffmpeg.git;a=commi . . . 59a613f26ce2
[02:09:16] jya_: There have been multiple user complaints about loosing this feature while its not clear the 3% speedloss claims where real or fabricated. My own testing indicates no statistically significant speed difference both with mpeg2 and mpeg4, and if at all the code with lowres support is a tiny bit faster than without.
[02:11:26] danielk22: :] It really didn't make much sense to me with how ffmpeg tries to make the code faster at almost any cost to make such a huge change without any benchmarking.
[02:14:28] jya_: going to redo a merge soon… may not have the time this weekend
[02:14:52] jya_: the revert doesn't appear complete to me though
[02:18:04] danielk22: jya_: I read [d8367252] and I don't see anything worrying. Looks a fair bit simpler too.
[02:19:13] jya_: danielk22: it is simpler yes.. it doesn't handle the "PauseAndWait" option , not sure if this is relevant
[02:19:48] jya_: as the iptv feeder are made, and their blocking run(), there's no way to implement a pause
[02:20:30] jya_: well, not one that wasn't just block.. the pause is done in the AddData, and isn't really a pause, it just ignores the data received
[02:21:41] jya_: did you get chance to look why changing program in livetv doesnt work ?
[02:22:00] danielk22: jya_: We only pause on channel changes. Not so sure that is relevant here. We probably tear down the streaming completely on IPTV channel changes.
[02:22:28] danielk22: jya_: No I was just reading your patch as you were posting about the ffmpeg commit.
[02:22:37] jya_: ok
[02:25:28] danielk22: stichnot: [f0f37a55] nice
[02:34:05] jya_: there's no way the ffmpeg reversal is complete...
[02:34:43] jya_: it would only work for mpeg decoder, and for all the other decoder, all it does is re-add the parameter .max_lowres
[02:35:14] jya_: if only the parameter is added, but not the code to handle it.. it's not going to get very far
[02:38:47] jya_: ah, my bug report was about mpeg2 only...
[02:41:21] stichnot: danielk22: thanks, just that I don't know how to test it...
[02:43:00] stichnot: (besides asking Lawrence to, of course...)
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[08:50:28] stuartm: I'm thinking of cutting the 0.25.1 release, a few important things have been fixed now – anything particular in the works which we should wait for?
[08:52:01] stuartm: there can always be a 0.25.2 a couple of weeks from now but 0.25.1 can wait a couple of days if anyone has fixes they are just about to commit
[08:52:34] stuartm: brb
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[12:44:10] danielk22: stichnot: Lawrence is running a debug build of Qt on windows. Not sure if he's getting this because of the debug or windows.
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[12:55:10] stichnot: stuartm: Out of curiosity, why do we do an official 0.25.n release? I had assumed it would be for a protocol or schema change, but I must be wrong. (And BTW I have nothing important to hold up 0.25.1)
[12:58:25] stuartm: stichnot: some people/distros will only use official releases and not the -fixes branch, and also for the benefit of those building from tarballs
[12:58:48] stichnot: I see.
[13:00:16] stuartm: we try never to do a schema or protocol change in a stable release, in fact it's almost unheard of for there to be a protocol change and schema changes that do happen are limited to data manipulation rather than true schema alterations
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[13:06:34] stichnot: so, #10606 appears to be fixed in master, almost certainly due to one of the ffmpeg resyncs. Would you call that "upstream bug"? And which of the "MythTV – Video *" components should it be?
[13:06:34] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10606 **
[13:07:51] stuartm: video decoding
[13:08:34] stuartm: wouldn't say upstream because we're including ffmpeg and not linking it
[13:08:46] stuartm: although it could go either way
[13:09:37] stichnot: all right, thanks.
[13:19:58] stichnot: What would you do about #9429? Another ping in the ticket, or close it?
[13:23:43] stichnot: I have a vague recollection that someone here (Jonatan?) had the DVD and could reproduce the problem
[13:25:11] stuartm: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9429
[13:26:06] stuartm: stichnot: ping again, otto has probably just forgotten
[13:26:14] stichnot: ok
[13:26:48] stuartm: I don't remember seeing him in IRC for a while, so he might still be very busy
[13:27:59] stuartm: !seen okolsi
[13:27:59] MythLogBot: okolsi was last seen 35 days 6 hours 3 minutes 18 seconds ago
[13:30:01] stichnot: yep, sounds busy :)
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[13:33:50] stuartm: normally we'd close unanswered tickets after 30 days, but Otto is a very helpful guy who's submitted a fair number of patches, so it's reasonable to give him some more time
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[14:56:21] sphery: stuartm: I was going to backport https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/c06b706553 , but wanted to give it a few days in master to make sure there are no unexpected issues. Was thinking of backporting on Monday. I'd really like for that to be in 0.25.1 (since it's the difference between a 2-min and a 45-min mythfilldatabase for *buntu 12.04 Schedules Direct users).
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[15:02:36] danielk22: stuartm: I have a few changesets I'd like to backport. I'll try to get them done this weekend.
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[15:11:42] gilson585: has anyone seen the commit over at ffmpeg regarding lowres support?
[15:11:42] gilson585: https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/commit/5e50a . . . 59a613f26ce2
[15:13:13] dekarl: gilson585: its already been mentioned
[15:16:35] gilson585: it doesn't look fully reverted, is it enough that we can get it back for myth to use again in the future?
[15:17:58] dekarl: gilson585: see, http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2012-05-26
[15:20:33] gilson585: thx, I should have searched history :P
[15:20:46] stuartm: sphery, danielk22: ok :) I've just noticed a menu entry isn't working in the guide so I need to take a few minutes at some point this weekend to fix that anyway
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[20:50:07] knightr: stuartm, I am pretty sure some of them would if we had a/the plugin/externtion for that, If you do get something installed for that let me know, I can try it out... I have seen some pretty goot French howtos so there is some good non-English MythTV documentation around and the situation is most likely the same in other languages, there is some non-English documention, it's just not hosted on our site...
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[23:30:53] David_Mi1ler: hello everyone
[23:31:06] David_Mi1ler: where do the screenshots in http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:HDAudioPassthrough come from?
[23:31:15] David_Mi1ler: its not clear where that config is
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