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| [01:25:03] | jya: | Captain_Murdoch: is there a way to get the reason why a download failed ? like an error code of something. What I'd like to do is if I get a timeout error, to retry, if it's a 404 I just seek a packet from another stream |
| [01:26:35] | Captain_Murdoch: | I thought that was in the logs, but can't recall. |
| [01:27:46] | Captain_Murdoch: | looks like we only print it when you have "-v file --loglevel debug". probably should change that. |
| [01:28:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | should print out the errorcode and errorString() from the QNetworkReply. |
| [01:28:51] | Captain_Murdoch: | made a notte on my TODOo. |
| [01:28:56] | Captain_Murdoch: | a note even |
| [01:35:50] | jya: | could we add a int download() routing instead, where instead of returning a boolean you return an int |
| [01:36:00] | jya: | that will contain the error code, 0 == success |
| [01:36:50] | jya: | did you get my earlier messages about HLS and the header? |
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| [01:40:08] | Captain_Murdoch: | looks like my temp mail/chat VM rebooted sometime over the weekend so i lost some scrollback until I just realized chat wasn't started up on it. was this about the length in the m3u8? |
| [01:40:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | we probably could add a int download() or some other way to get the result code. I'll make a note about it and give it some thought. |
| [01:41:37] | jya: | Captain_Murdoch: yes… the stream is marked as live ; so we can't seek on it |
| [01:41:47] | jya: | and also get no length information about it |
| [01:42:51] | Captain_Murdoch: | I can seek fine when playing on my ipod and iphone. length seems to be handled differently sometimes. I've seen length come and go sometimes. if that would be fixed by putting a length in the m3u8 then that can be added. I made a note in my TODO list. |
| [01:43:21] | Captain_Murdoch: | you should be able to seek anywhere in the segments listed in the m3u8 whether it's live or not. |
| [01:44:08] | jya: | on my iPad.. it shows "live" in the duration field.. and I can't seek |
| [01:44:41] | Captain_Murdoch: | maybe an iOS version difference. is this both backwards and forwards or just forwards? |
| [01:45:36] | jya: | that's quite interesting.. I've upgraded to 12.04 on Friday ; and playback quality is much better |
| [01:45:57] | jya: | ah, I can seek backward now |
| [01:46:29] | jya: | all of this makes me very curious on how AirVideo is doing it... |
| [01:48:51] | jya: | http://i45.tinypic.com/29em88h.png |
| [01:49:03] | jya: | http://i45.tinypic.com/96c39t.png |
| [01:49:30] | jya: | one is airvideo, the other myth with this patch: http://pastebin.com/p3wyrB6v |
| [01:54:17] | Captain_Murdoch: | I've seen the 'Live' before I think. I can't recall which devices did which. I think I have 3 different iOS devices running 3 different iOS versions. |
| [01:57:00] | jya: | all of mine are running the latest iOS (5.1.1) |
| [01:57:43] | jya: | playing with the torc app, a few videos fail to start playback, when that happens, in the backend log I see: 2012-05–14 11:54:13.375900 E MethodInfo::Invoke – An Exception Occurred: GetFile – FileName missing. |
| [01:57:43] | jya: | 2012-05–14 11:54:13.375928 E GetFile – FileName missing. |
| [01:58:52] | jya: | righto… going back to my HLS ring buffer… |
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| [06:05:15] | stichnot: | So for the first time in about 2 years, I tried to use lossless mpeg2 transcoding (in-laws didn't get to watch this season of Castle before leaving the country, so I want to give them the episodes without commercials). I tried several episodes and they all failed about 70% into the transcode. The process memory size rapidly grew to about 3GB (this is a 32-bit OS), and gave me 300K log... |
| [06:05:17] | stichnot: | ...lines of "No more queue slots!" |
| [06:06:09] | stichnot: | Two questions. Is this likely to be a simple fix? Are there any other Windows players that accept a cutlist? |
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| [07:48:02] | peitolm: | stichnot: sounds more like a q for -users, see topic |
| [07:48:36] | peitolm: | nm |
| [07:48:55] | peitolm: | stichnot: ignore me, didn't see your ident |
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| [07:54:25] | jya: | Beirdo: I finally got the time to compile mplayer… it plays my ts video just fine... |
| [07:57:38] | jya: | so it does point to an issue in our mpegts code |
| [07:58:18] | jya: | hopefully it's something ffmpeg fixed recently, so I can do a git disect and find what they did specia |
| [08:02:42] | jya: | yep.. ffplay plays it just fine |
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| [11:19:26] | jya: | Beirdo: I've remove all the mythtv mpeg changes ; so all there's left is the original mpegts demuxer from ffmpeg.. I see no difference to our playback. On this box, I do not have VDPAU or VDA, just pure software, it plays about 3 times as it should be…. So this points to the playback code… mythffplay plays it just fine… not sure how you got to the conclusion that ffmpeg couldn't play it earlier.. i tried ffmplay of both master and fixes/0.25 and |
| [11:19:27] | jya: | plays |
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| [12:57:39] | danielk22: | wagnerrp: In the smolt breakdowns would it be difficult to get the 5% ad 95% figures instead of min and max? The min is always 0 or -1 and the max looks like a not very useful outlier. |
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| [13:08:34] | jams: | danielk22- yeah it's possible. it's on my list of things to do. Whats displayed now was quick&easy with the builtin sqlalchemy functions. unfortunately sqlalchemy does't have any builtin functions to handle other stats |
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| [14:35:29] | stichnot: | peitolm: yeah, I realize my question was bordering on -users, but primarily I want to know if there's a likely code fix in the next 2 days... |
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| [15:19:24] | Captain_Murdoch: | I often wonder if it would be easier to hookup lossless mpeg in a simpler code base. AVFormatWriter or a variation of it could make that easier. perhaps when I stop using the lossy side the lossless side will be more important and I'll take a look. |
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| [15:30:35] | sphery: | isn't lossless transcode currently based off libmpeg2? if so, completely rewriting it would be A Good Thing |
| [15:35:35] | wagnerrp: | nope, replex... http://www.metzlerbros.org/dvb/ |
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| [15:59:28] | sphery: | Yeah, it uses replex for muxing related stuff, but it's based on libmpeg2 for all the actual mpeg video stuff. I was thinking Beirdo had started some work on converting it to use ffmpeg code. https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . eg2fix.h#L17 , plust all the mpeg2_* in mpeg2fix.cpp |
| [16:00:22] | sphery: | (and speaking of replex, that's another "dead" lib that we might want to find a replacement for) |
| [16:00:50] | sphery: | (even the home page you quoted is no longer there, and the Metzler brothers have said they don't plan to support the lib, anymore) |
| [16:00:51] | wagnerrp: | did the 404 on that page tell you that? |
| [16:00:53] | wagnerrp: | :P |
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| [16:05:42] | sphery: | ah, now I see you were saying that's another one that would make rewriting a good thing |
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| [16:17:04] | Beirdo: | there's no technical reason we can't dump both libmpeg2 and replex |
| [16:17:11] | Beirdo: | it will just take time |
| [16:18:50] | Beirdo: | jya: we are not going to be using the ffmpeg mpegts.c at this point. We have too many things that we need that they don't provide. |
| [16:19:10] | Beirdo: | so the trick is to fix ours |
| [16:19:26] | jya: | Beirdo: when did I ever state or suggested we were going to use ffmpeg |
| [16:19:32] | jya: | s mpegts? |
| [16:19:44] | Beirdo: | you didn't, but I'm just saying :) |
| [16:20:04] | jya: | you asked me to check if ffmpeg played it correct, or re-using ffmpegs one in place of mythtv would fix the problem |
| [16:20:06] | Beirdo: | we can't or it will break a pile of other things like DVB close captions |
| [16:20:13] | Beirdo: | yeah, I know :) |
| [16:20:14] | jya: | so I did exactly that and provided answer |
| [16:20:28] | Beirdo: | so now, the trick is finding what ours is doing wrong |
| [16:20:38] | Beirdo: | this will be ... fun |
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| [16:20:48] | jya: | so my answers are: using ffmpeg's one plays exactly the same as mythtv's one... |
| [16:21:06] | jya: | so the problem isn't in the mpegts demuxer by the look of things |
| [16:21:32] | Beirdo: | ah, so I misunderstood anyways. I blame Monday morning. :) |
| [16:21:34] | Beirdo: | sorry |
| [16:22:00] | jya: | funny is that using XVideo/ffmpeg: it plays about 3 times as fast as what I see on the mac |
| [16:22:29] | Beirdo: | as I said, we are interpreting it as 90fps |
| [16:22:36] | jya: | what I'm confused about however, is that you said it didnt play for you using ffplay or mythffplay |
| [16:22:48] | Beirdo: | not properly, no |
| [16:23:36] | jya: | plays perfectly here, i mean exactly like what i'm seeing with Safari |
| [16:23:42] | jya: | or Quicktime |
| [16:24:30] | jya: | with ffplay from 0.25, it takes a bit longer for the video to stabilise |
| [16:26:48] | Beirdo: | well, I dunno |
| [16:27:20] | Beirdo: | anyways, I gotta head to work, and it seems they've made us an emergency by being retards and not renewing an SSL cert. |
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| [16:29:43] | Beirdo: | got really stupid coworkers |
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| [16:43:25] | danielk22: | jya: Can you send me a link to the file? |
| [16:43:49] | jya: | danielk22: #10715 |
| [16:43:49] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10715 ** | |
| [16:44:04] | jya: | would be ace if you could look at it |
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| [16:57:24] | danielk22: | jya: It looks like there is conflicting meta-data about the frame-rate in the file. But that may just be a red-herring, I'll need to do a bit of digging to find out why we're playing the video too fast. I suspect V-Sync code. |
| [16:57:58] | jya: | danielk22: for info, this is the file I reconstituted from the Apple's HLS test stream |
| [16:58:23] | jya: | it's the simplest one, constant bitrate |
| [16:59:16] | jya: | when using VDPAU (or Mac VDA), it seems that it drops about 2/3rd of the frames, so it plays at the normal speed, |
| [17:00:23] | danielk22: | jya: Can you point me to the original URL too? |
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| [17:00:44] | jya: | it's a HLS stream, it's made of segments of .ts |
| [17:00:53] | jya: | http://devimages.apple.com/iphone/samples/bipbopgear1.html |
| [17:01:23] | jya: | here is the actual playlist |
| [17:01:24] | jya: | http://devimages.apple.com/iphone/samples/bip . . . g_index.m3u8 |
| [17:01:35] | danielk22: | Thx, it looks like this file is actually ~15 fps so I just want to confirm against the original on my ipad |
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| [17:02:35] | jya: | ok |
| [17:02:53] | jya: | I'm pretty sure the stream I reconstituted is correct… but you never know... |
| [17:05:05] | danielk22: | It's correct, I confirmed with the ipad. It's a 15000/1001 fps video. I just wanted to be sure before I spent too much time on this since it's an unusual frame rate. |
| [17:05:43] | danielk22: | I can't work on this right now, but it's on my queue. |
| [17:06:03] | jya: | no problem.. |
| [17:07:24] | jya: | well, I have playback of HLS working perfectly now… issue is with seek, I don't really understand how myth is trying to seek in the file, so it acts weird |
| [17:13:57] | jya: | danielk22: how do we determine the length of a file (here a mpeg-ts) ? |
| [17:14:09] | jya: | by length i mean duration wise, |
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| [17:20:48] | stuartm: | number of frames / framerate |
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| [17:21:39] | jya: | stuartm: but how could it ever be possible to know the number of frames in a mpeg-ts ? |
| [17:21:39] | stuartm: | a rough estimate can also be derived via bitrate*size |
| [17:21:51] | stuartm: | jya: in our case we count them as we record |
| [17:22:03] | Beirdo: | jya: think of it as livetv |
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| [17:22:13] | Beirdo: | the length grows as it's recorded |
| [17:22:35] | jya: | ok… that's what I should it did.. so I returned the size as a simulated bitrate (I know the size of a segment, and how long it is) |
| [17:22:52] | jya: | and I return an estimated size based on size |
| [17:23:13] | jya: | but the time I read is like 5h29m for a 40 minutes stream |
| [17:23:42] | jya: | Beirdo: I do know the duration of the stream, I know how many segments there are and how long each last |
| [17:23:51] | Beirdo: | don't forget: your framerate is off by a factor of 6 |
| [17:24:06] | Beirdo: | we take it as 90, and it's 15 |
| [17:24:16] | Beirdo: | that will bugger up calculations too |
| [17:24:44] | Beirdo: | danielk22: thanks for looking into it (when it hits the top of your stack) |
| [17:25:31] | jya: | i'm using another stream here |
| [17:25:35] | jya: | that myth plays perfectly |
| [17:25:45] | jya: | a stream from my iPhone via AirVideo |
| [17:26:12] | Beirdo: | good :) That should let you work out remaining bugs in the transport |
| [17:27:53] | jya: | playback wise I have pretty much everything playing perfectly now |
| [17:28:04] | jya: | including meta streams made of multiple ones |
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| [17:29:05] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [17:31:01] | jya: | if only I knew what to return when seeking… right now I estimate what the segment number would be, and return this value… problem is then the Seek function is called over and over and it never stops until it reaches the end of the stream |
| [17:31:29] | jya: | and i'm not even trying with variable bitrate ones |
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| [17:47:13] | xris: | Beirdo: gossamer-threads seems to have stopped archiving our messages |
| [17:47:49] | Beirdo: | interesting. Who has been in charge of that in the past? |
| [17:48:09] | Beirdo: | nothing should have changed in the last 3 days to cause that |
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| [17:48:54] | xris: | no clue |
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| [17:55:41] | wagnerrp: | xris, Beirdo: gossamer-threads seems to have stopped archiving everyone's messages |
| [17:55:59] | xris: | wagnerrp: read 3 lines up. :) |
| [17:56:04] | xris: | er, 4 |
| [17:56:14] | xris: | oh, "everyone"... |
| [17:56:25] | xris: | that's no good |
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| [17:57:16] | wagnerrp: | xris: read 5 lines up. :) |
| [17:58:22] | wagnerrp: | there was mention of it about an hour and a half ago in the other channel |
| [17:58:37] | xris: | ah. |
| [17:58:54] | xris: | yeah, some user emailed the contact form so I figured I should pass it along |
| [17:59:10] | xris: | lame if it's all gossamer that's not working. but maybe an easier fix for us. |
| [17:59:31] | xris: | presumably just no one there to fix it on the weekend |
| [18:00:03] | xris: | speaking of server issues.. Beirdo, any more random shutdown oddness from alcor? |
| [18:00:09] | Beirdo: | not lately |
| [18:00:17] | Beirdo: | knock on wood |
| [18:00:51] | wagnerrp: | i dont think it ever shut down, just locked up |
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| [18:07:26] | xris: | Beirdo: are we all clear to delete the SD-hosted box from rackspace? We have a backup just in case |
| [18:07:47] | Beirdo: | Yes, I think we are good to go, as long as we have that backup. |
| [18:08:07] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: any objections (like last minute things to pull from it?) |
| [18:09:39] | xris: | and.. gone |
| [18:15:49] | sphery: | seems that was actually "last minute and 32 seconds" warning :) |
| [18:19:08] | xris: | yeah, I only saw Beirdo's first reply. was already gone by the time he did the second |
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| [18:21:46] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:21:55] | stuartm: | the trac ticket page template ... the one we modified to include a link and reminder to read the Ticket Howto before creating or commenting on a ticket |
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| [22:13:19] | stichnot: | danielk22: did you see my response a couple days ago about your EAGAIN ringbuffer patch? |
| [22:17:27] | stichnot: | http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2012-05-13:03:32:38 |
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| [22:57:29] | danielk22: | stichnot: Yep. I'll need to look into that. I don't need any additional debug yet. |
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| [23:04:06] | jya: | Captain_Murdoch: Looking at the HLS playlist generated by AirVideo ; they use 4s segment interval. They also seem to generate the whole playlist before the actual conversion is ready. They seem to encode the whole lot, and should you start seeking, can put priority on the segment you are about to fetch. I'm guessing 4s is the sweet spot they've found to require little time |
| [23:04:44] | jya: | they do so with a modified ffmpeg of which they provide the source code. I could add traces to see what arguments they provide if you're interested |
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