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Sunday, May 6th, 2012, 00:34 UTC
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[01:46:07] Killerkiwi: anyboy know how setvolume is supposed to work in the new front end service API
[01:46:09] Killerkiwi: /Frontend/SendAction?Action=SETVOLUME&Value=6 ?
[01:47:02] Killerkiwi: anyboy know how setvolume is supposed to work in the new front end service API
[01:47:04] Killerkiwi: /Frontend/SendAction?Action=SETVOLUME&Value=6 ?
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[04:02:42] jya_: danielk22: Are you planning to backport any of the fixes you've committed to fixes/0.25 ?
[04:12:32] danielk22: Yeah, I'm trying to push a bunch of things that have been sitting in my trees out first. Then I'll start to backport the safe stuff.
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[04:15:43] jya_: the EIT deadlock is probably on the higher priority list, a few people on the user lists have been complained about the backend locking up
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[04:17:20] jya_: well.. i'm done getting AirPlay to work perfectly for both audio and video, need to implement HTTP Live Streaming now as that's what many server can stream
[04:25:02] Seeker`: jya: impressive work :) Managed to spend a while listening to music with it earlier, no real problems :D
[04:27:28] jya_: Seeker`: video (non encrypted) works just as well now
[04:27:59] jya_: can seek in youtube finally
[04:28:40] Seeker`: cool
[04:29:07] jya_: i have disabled the ability to do audio only playback in video, that's how the appletv works… i thought having two myth device showing up in the airplay list was very confusing
[04:29:56] jya_: what it means that i really, wasted my time getting sync working with RAOP ; because it's never used for video anymore :)
[04:30:20] Seeker`: :P
[04:30:35] jya_: okay… gonna backport the whole lot now… that will fix everyone's problem in particular why they couldn't connect at all
[04:30:36] Seeker`: I'd probably put in an option to enable audio-only streaming for vieos
[04:30:56] Seeker`: if the code is there already I mean
[04:31:34] jya_: Seeker`: you're using fixes/0.25 right?
[04:31:40] Seeker`: trunk
[04:31:45] Seeker`: master
[04:31:45] jya_: ok cool..
[04:31:49] Seeker`: whatever you wanna call it :P
[04:32:16] Seeker`: yeah, I'll be able to pull the last 2 commits from the mythbuntu repo when it rebuilds in about 17 hours
[04:32:41] jya_: Seeker`: I've thought of adding an option, it's not very complicated really… the main issue being that ins the music app, if you stream to the wrong device, you won't hear anything
[04:36:03] Seeker`: probably best to have it off by default then
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[11:54:49] MythBuild: build #909 of master-osx-snow-leopard is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . d/builds/909
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[14:56:51] stichnot: danielk22, how many 3rd-party apps do you suppose you broke with this SingingPotato business? :)
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[15:39:19] wagnerrp: singing potato?
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[16:47:42] stichnot: http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/diff/mytht . . . 38e219c34bed
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[16:50:31] wagnerrp: HAH
[16:50:56] wagnerrp: do you think they've been expecting it to remain an 8-character code?
[16:51:45] wagnerrp: well its only on a feature branch for now
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[16:55:06] wagnerrp: why did this get a protocol bump? i dont see any changes to mainserver.cpp
[16:56:01] wagnerrp: nevermind, i thought it was elsewhere because i had already pulled the changes and didnt see the modified files
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[18:46:17] danielk22: stichnot: Dunno. But it is better to break invalid assumptions early in the release cycle. :)
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[19:01:41] stichnot: Does anyone have some .emacs config for xml-mode that I could steal? In particular, I want a tab indent of 4 spaces, and no tab characters.
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[20:01:40] gigem: stichnot: I just emailed you some old emails about emacs and MythTV.
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[20:41:50] stuarta: MythBuild: force build 0.24-debian-stable-64bit now
[20:41:50] MythBuild: build forced [ETA 7m29s]
[20:41:50] MythBuild: I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[20:46:47] stuarta: that 7m is a lie. i'm changing hosts, and it's a clean build on a fresh vm
[20:46:56] stuarta: more like 50m
[20:49:04] wagnerrp: give it time, it will become accurate soon enough
[20:49:10] stuarta: aye
[20:49:34] stuarta: its part of my cunning plan to save some money...
[20:50:10] wagnerrp: chroot/vm on some more modern combined host?
[20:50:38] stuarta: my master backend (dev + prod) now has a deb vm on it
[20:50:46] stuarta: seeing how it goes
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[20:51:09] wagnerrp: hopefully a master backend with virt extensions?
[20:51:24] stuarta: yeah, it's running kvm virt
[20:51:27] stuarta: which is nice
[20:51:47] wagnerrp: no, i mean a sufficiently new processor that all that stuff runs directly in isolated memory space
[20:51:58] wagnerrp: rather than having to get interpreted by the VM software at a significant hit
[20:52:13] stuarta: that stuff is required for kvm to work properly
[20:52:20] wagnerrp: oh
[20:52:20] stuarta: and the cpu has it anyway
[20:52:37] stuarta: it's only the older vm tech's that didn't require it
[20:52:51] stuarta: google hp microserver :)
[20:53:11] wagnerrp: one of the Ath II Neos?
[20:53:15] stuarta: yup
[20:53:29] stuarta: 250 quid – 100 quid cashback for a virt capable host is great
[20:53:51] stuarta: only real limitation is 8Gb max ram
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[20:53:54] stuartm: 250 quid cashback is better
[20:54:14] stuarta: tempted to buy a 2nd one to replace my desktop
[20:54:19] stuartm: </silliness>
[20:54:26] stuarta: sillyness++
[20:56:20] stuartm: stuarta: I was looking at those last week, they do seem like a good deal, but I couldn't figure out how I'd put one to use – they don't have the slots for a backend, at least not one capable of replacing my existing one
[20:56:51] stuartm: would make a great NAS, but I've just bought a new NAS and have no need of a second, especially with disk prices so high
[20:57:49] stuarta: stuartm: i use one as a backend, 1x pci-e dual dvb-s2 tuner, 1x usb dual dvb-t tuner
[20:58:22] stuarta: both tuners split between dev + prod, so i've one of each for each environment
[20:58:52] stuartm: stuarta: aye, if I was to replace all my tuners it could work, but the cost of doing that on top means it's not such a great deal
[20:59:06] stuarta: lots of pci tuners?
[20:59:15] stuartm: all PCI
[20:59:30] stuarta: i've got about 3x pci dvb-t's doing nothing now
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[20:59:57] stuartm: so while I really like the look and price of the microserver, it's not something I can justify buying :)
[21:00:18] stuartm: doesn't stop me wanting one though
[21:00:19] wagnerrp: but the power...
[21:00:30] wagnerrp: although admittedly, its a damn sight better than a wimpy Atom
[21:01:00] stuarta: i'm looking at it another way at the moment, that costs me 150 quid for a virt host, or i can spend 150 euro setup + 59 euro p/m on a mega powerful virt box
[21:01:13] stuarta: budget wins
[21:01:30] wagnerrp: p/m?
[21:01:36] stuartm: per month
[21:04:37] stuartm: I've no need for a virt host, I have some cheap as chips shared hosting and that serves me just fine, and just because I'm a paranoid bastard I'm happier to keep the net facing services to a minimum on my home network
[21:05:17] stuartm: just ssh in fact
[21:06:58] stuarta: well if this vm works fine as the buildslave, i'm going to move to a vps for a while for my mail services
[21:10:13] stuartm: any good reason to still have the 'local' video directory settings?
[21:11:07] stuartm: not surprisingly it does cause a lot of confusion having video directories defined in two different places
[21:12:04] wagnerrp: stuartm: planned for removal
[21:12:22] wagnerrp: in the near term, prior to 0.26
[21:28:44] stichnot: gigem: thanks... but I was asking about xml-mode, for editing theme xml files. I'm pretty well set for C and C++ modes.
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[22:24:13] MythBuild: Hey! build 0.24-debian-stable-64bit #117 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[22:24:13] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/117 **
[22:24:14] MythBuild: Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.24 . . . t/builds/117
[22:26:38] stuarta: 1hr 42m. i hope that improves over time
[22:26:45] wagnerrp: stuarta: you remembered to increase the ccache size?
[22:26:49] stuarta: yeah
[22:34:33] stuarta: this is where uber vm host would be helpful :)
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[22:59:12] jya_: Captain_Murdoch: I'v started on the HLS ringbuffer code ; I see that a single playlist definition can contain info for fallback segments, like have different bitstream so the player can support switching on the fly should bandwidth be not sufficient. We will be supporting this (well, that's my aim)… Does our HLS server supports this?
[23:00:54] jya_: instead of having the user having to define a bandwidth in the service API, would we support a single stream with multiple bandwidth settings so the client can negotiate on the fly which one to use, and have the backend supports it simply based on the URL ?

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