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Saturday, May 5th, 2012, 00:13 UTC
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[01:04:13] gigem: Wasn't there a discussion before the 0.25 release regarding the capitalization of menu items and button text? I thought there was a desire to make them all consistent — capitalize the first letter of all important words or just the first word. I don't remember the result, but either way, I see both being used and am willing to fix any incorrect usage in the stuff I'm working on right now.
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[02:19:35] danielk22: gigem: There was discussion, I don't remember if we wanted "Title Caps" or "Sentence caps", I think the former makes the most sense in for most buttons. But it would look a little awkward for some of the longer phrases/sentences, like in the recording rule creation dialog.
[02:21:49] danielk22: jya: I dunno. I was told Janne was a woman's name in German, but our Janne was a guy.
[02:22:51] danielk22: Angela Merkel is a woman so that's my only basis :)
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[02:48:24] gigem: stichnot: Yeah, I prefer "Title Caps" for most things, but "Sentence caps" is better for phrases or near-sentences.
[02:48:45] jya: gigem: I think it was sphery who sent that email about capitalisation
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[05:09:12] sphery: gigem: yeah, I sent the e-mail, and don't remember the result, but I still want to make it consistent--one way or the other...
[05:09:53] sphery: we found a few style guides--Apple and GNOME and KDE--and Google just released a new Android one
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[05:14:15] sphery: gigem: fwiw, here's the start of the thread... only 4 messages, 3 from me :), and no branches, so easy to follow: http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/private/mythtv- . . . /003482.html
[05:16:03] sphery: we could always pick a style guide ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_interface_ . . . mples_of_HIG + http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtcreator-extending/q . . . ui-text.html being some possibilities)
[05:16:23] sphery: (or create our own, if someone's that motivated)
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[05:49:36] wagnerrp: the config.xml format changed with the recent patches?
[05:54:59] sphery: seems it's the same format, but the new code writes it without line feeds/indents, but the new code only writes it if it changes (not sure if whitespace counts as a change, but I'd guess not)...
[05:55:16] sphery: does python code always rewrite it (like the C++ code used to do)?
[05:56:07] wagnerrp: the python code only writes a file if it auto-detects the backend using UPNP
[05:56:20] wagnerrp: which means it failed to parse the existing file
[05:57:19] sphery: he said he was attaching good and bad, but only has one file (and it has a bad in it), but it has no spaces/indents
[05:57:54] sphery: so almost seems he's saying the old format had no spaces?
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[06:00:32] wagnerrp: i _think_ the python bindings pretty-print the new XML file
[06:00:45] wagnerrp: i dont recall off hand, would need to check
[06:00:59] wagnerrp: i just generate an XML object, and let the XML library generate the file
[06:01:36] wagnerrp: etree.tostring(doc)... maybe not
[06:03:50] wagnerrp: so do we generate a new version file using the pre-commit hooks or something?
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[07:48:28] jya: any particular reason we don't allow seeking when streaming using StreamingRingBuffer a mp4 or m4v file ?
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[08:12:58] jya: ah I see.. the URL doesn't end with .mp4, but contains extra characters like ? so seek is disallowed.
[08:13:00] jya: easy fix
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[13:31:43] danielk22: wagnerrp: The config.xml format is changed. I was kinda hoping for info like 'script X reads the config.xml' with my post to dev on Thursday.
[13:31:58] danielk22: It should be very easy to adapt :)
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[14:31:18] sphery: danielk22: thanks... we eventually found the changes when the ticket reporter pastebin'ed the new/good format config.xml (which Trac's spam filter was refusing to let him post). We'll get the Python and Perl bindings updated soon.
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[15:30:00] earthw0rm: Hello,
[15:30:47] earthw0rm: I got my new PC up and running, and I'm going to install Fedora on it, but I wanted some advice about partitioning
[15:31:22] sphery: earthw0rm: /topic (I think you want #mythtv-users )
[15:31:37] earthw0rm: Sorry duck, I keep doing that
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[16:22:33] gigem: sphery: Thanks for the reference. Until we choose a style guide, I'll just try to make everything consistent on the page I'm dealing with.
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[19:49:52] gigem: Are there any gotcha's with using mix-ins and Q_OBJECT classes? To avoid duplicating code in two classes derived from MythScreenType, I'd like to use a mix-in to provide a few common data members and methods.
[19:55:46] danielk22: gigem: Yes. There are lots of problems with QObject classes and multiple inheritance.
[19:57:14] danielk22: gigem: It is possible to inherit from one QObject based class safely if it is the first class in the list of classes you inherit from.
[20:00:12] danielk22: In general you break events, signals and slots, type-safety and object ownership if you mix QObject with multiple inheritance.
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[20:12:20] jerry: i would like to try myth, to recieve iptv, have dual nics, is this a feature supported out of the box?
[20:14:26] sphery: jerry: /topic (you want #mythtv-users )
[20:15:06] gigem: danielk22: The mix-in class won't be derived from anything else and won't have it's own Q_OJBECT. It's merely a place to hold the data and methods that I want common to two other Q_OBJECT classes. Based on what you said, it sounds like it's safe as long as the mix-in class is listed last in the inheritance list (which is what I was going to do anyway).
[20:15:45] jerry: thanks, i'll give that a try
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[20:33:40] itunesDan: anyone atk?
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[21:26:42] danielk22: gigem: yeah, as long as it isn't the first class derived from and it doesn't have any parent's itself it will be safe.
[21:28:43] danielk22: s/parent's/parents/
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[23:52:04] jya_: I was just looking at the streamingringbuffer code; it entirely relies on ffmpeg for accessing the external site; so that uses ffmpeg environment variable for things like proxy etc…
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