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Tuesday, April 24th, 2012, 00:00 UTC
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[00:43:45] sphery: rhl: /topic (you want #mythtv-users )
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[02:10:31] sphery: stichnot: you may want to see "[mythtv-users] MythTV ignoring instruction to watch Live TV in preference to recording" ... Might be the same issue you're tracking, now.
[02:21:35] jya: sphery: even with that setting on, if there's a bug, it would still occur, albeit less often
[02:21:51] jya: so it's probably better at this stage that it doesn't change anything so it's easier to reproduce the problem
[02:33:10] stichnot: sphery: yeah, that bug has really become popular...
[02:33:31] stichnot: I'm tracking it? I thought it was assigned to gigem :)
[02:36:25] jya: stichnot: I think he's referring to the issue it cause with the deadlock
[02:36:37] jya: when it tries to record while you're watching livetv
[02:36:54] jya: if properly configured, you should not even see that message unless in extreme circumstances
[02:51:59] stichnot: jya: yeah, I know he's talking about #10647 which got auto-assigned to gigem. I haven't had any time today to look at it.
[02:51:59] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10647 **
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[09:56:45] jya: stuartm: got the chance to work on this announce/banner thing?
[09:57:14] jya: im now able to retrive the artwork and song played from iTunes, would be nice to display it somewhere
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[10:17:56] stuartm: jya: not yet
[10:19:40] jya: if there's anything I can do to help… I'm happy to have a listening thread that would queue incoming message
[10:21:15] jya: it didn't rain last week-end ? :)
[10:25:11] stuartm: it's been pretty dry during the day, rain falling at night mostly :)
[10:27:12] stuartm: the message/notification stuff will have it's own queue, so it should be unnecessary to queue the airplay stuff
[10:28:17] stuartm: unless I'm misunderstanding, if you want to write the backend portion of the notification stuff then I'd welcome the help :)
[10:28:31] stuartm: bbl
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[10:57:00] jya: stuartm: the queue I was referring to was the global application queue
[10:57:04] jya: not the airplay one
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[11:19:26] stuartm: any objections to including a copy of libdvdid – http://dvdid.cjkey.org.uk/ ?
[11:19:51] stuartm: it's not available on some distros
[11:26:10] stuartm: I'd actually prefer not to but it's missing from ubuntu, mandriva, fedora et al
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[13:10:12] stuartm: Beirdo, xris: any chance of getting smtp accounts on mythtv.org?
[13:19:48] stuartm: WTF, XBMC devs couldn't contact the author of some code, so they just decided to put the GPL license in the headers and hope that no-one minded ...
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[13:49:14] wagnerrp: stuartm: what code?
[13:50:52] wagnerrp: stuartm: also, that dvdid stuff is going to be of limited usefulness
[13:51:36] wagnerrp: as it never really took off on tmdb, we never had support for its use in the first place, and right now travis is rethinking access to that information over potential legal concerns
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[14:10:04] stuartm: libdvdid – there's a thread on github where it's first committed to the repo, someone points out the lack of any licence info, attempts are made to contact the author and when those failed – https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/364#issuecomment-2058989
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[14:15:23] stuartm: wagnerrp: last threads I read in the TMDB forum were still positive on adding support but Travis was complaining about never receiving a mass-import of dvdids that had been promised from a user
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[14:16:45] stuartm: tvdb also have made a start on dvdid support, although it's pretty flawed right now (one dvdid per episodes, ignoring regional variations, alternate releases etc) and there's no API afaik
[14:18:13] stuartm: there's some benefit to using the dvdid for bookmarks – right now dvd bookmarks based on the disc serial number are a little broken, libdvdnav is returning UNDEFINED for some/all discs
[14:18:46] wagnerrp: yeah, just saw the comment at the top of the xbmc commit, where it was to be used for tracking external DVDs
[14:20:15] stuartm: wagnerrp: that's what I was planning on using it for, discs in the drive rather than ISOs – so we can show something useful in the OSD and main menu e.g. "Play Casino Royale DVD" instead of "Play Optical Disc"
[14:20:45] stuartm: although that does depend on tmdb/tvdb getting a working implementation of disc id lookups
[14:22:38] stuartm: this is the last I saw from TMDB – http://help.themoviedb.org/discussions/proble . . . ent_11951911
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[14:25:11] stuartm: anyway, this is all going nowhere if I don't hear back from Christopher Key about the license, I emailed back in January and I've just sent another
[14:28:20] wagnerrp: what are the extents of the license in regards to simply using the algorithm and rewriting the code?
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[14:28:57] wagnerrp: as i understand it, its actually derived from something originally built into windows MCE
[14:32:05] stuartm: I'd say we'd be safe to re-write it, and maybe that would be better long-term
[14:33:27] stuartm: I don't know how much work that would involve, especially making it cross platform as it is in the lib
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[15:56:13] gigem: stichnot: i looked at #10647 briefly. my initial guess is the problem is due to changes in the recorders. although danielk22 refactored part of the scheduler, it was mostly just breaking up large chunks of conde into smaller chunks and i don't think the code referenced in the backtrace has changed.
[15:56:13] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10647 **
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[15:59:54] gigem: danielk22: after looking at the bug above, i also noticed that schedLock apparently protects m_tvList. it looks like Captain_Murdock added that a long time ago. in the case of Scheduler::GetNextLiveTVDir(), i'm not sure it's needed at all.
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[16:25:08] danielk22: gigem: stichnot: I'm fairly sure that problem is in the recorder not the scheduler.
[16:26:50] stichnot: danielk22: gigem: neither is really my area, but I'll try to look at it tonight if no one else wants to.
[16:27:11] danielk22: stichnot: I will look at it, but possibly not today.
[16:27:24] stichnot: ok thanks.
[16:27:46] stichnot: hopefully "-v most --loglevel debug" was sufficient :)
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[16:28:49] Beirdo: stuartm: you mean like authenticated smtp? Should be able to set that up
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[16:29:15] Beirdo: danielk22: have any luck with the ffmpeg merge yet?
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[16:36:26] Beirdo: jeez. people are going ticket-crazy on iptv these days
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[16:41:48] stuartm: Beirdo: aye, it appears my hosts haven't yet pulled the trigger on their promised changes which would prevent me sending email using my mythtv address, but it might be useful all the same
[16:44:00] stuartm: it would also allow us to subscribe to the mailing lists with our mythtv addresses (currently not possible)
[16:44:49] Beirdo: yeah, it'll take a bit of work, but it's definitely doable
[16:45:10] Beirdo: and I can't forsee any policy issues with it either :) Our server...
[16:46:13] stuartm: right, so long as no-one abuses it
[16:46:22] Beirdo: of course
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[16:47:28] Beirdo: Well, I'd better get out to the bus. I'll look into that this evening, sounds like a good plan
[16:47:38] Beirdo: I know sphery was having odd issues at times too
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[17:10:24] danielk22: Beirdo: I have it running. I haven't yet had a chance to stress test it.
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[17:38:30] xris: stuarta: re smtp, I just use google.
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[17:39:19] xris: er, that was for stuartm
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[17:46:29] Beirdo: danielk22: cool :) Let me know...
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[17:51:10] eclark425: HEllo
[17:51:14] eclark425: have a few queustions
[17:51:55] eclark425: I need a sulotions to multicast the Channels I recieve from OTA HD Antenna over my LAN
[17:51:55] eclark425: I want to create a VLC play list to veiw the channels
[17:51:55] eclark425: any Ideas of what Hardware will work for me
[17:53:12] eclark425: or what setup
[17:56:34] wagnerrp: eclark425: this is the mythtv development channel, and those arent even questions related to mythtv
[17:56:49] wagnerrp: perhaps you want #vlc or #linuxtv
[18:09:27] eclark425: well will MythTV do what I am asking
[18:10:00] eclark425: VLC will only multicast one source unless I run multiple instence VLC which I donot want to do
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[18:17:13] locuse: i'm setting up mythweb. my webserver's apache 2.4.3 w MPM=event. as that's a threaded mpm, i use php-fpm rather than mod_php5. i've found @ wiki mythtv config for apache <= v2.3.x + mod_php5, and nginx + php-fpm. b4 i reinvent the wheel, is there any config info/guidance for apache 24x (or any version, for that matter) + php-fpm?
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[18:17:26] Beirdo: this is the development channel
[18:17:39] Beirdo: you, no doubt, are looking for #mythtv-users
[18:19:21] locuse: i KEEP doing that ... sry
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[18:30:10] Beirdo: gah
[18:30:24] Beirdo: why do people use CMake... especially for Qt stuff?
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[18:30:38] Beirdo: looking at pulling in qjson in externals
[18:30:48] Beirdo: but it uses fricking cmake
[18:30:54] Beirdo: hmmm.
[18:32:50] Beirdo: has a .pro file too, it will compile, but not install without cmake it seems
[18:32:58] Beirdo: how idiotic
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[18:52:34] Beirdo: OK, the .pro files with tweaking will do for now
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[20:05:23] dblain: Beirdo: what do you need qjason for?
[20:05:58] dblain: qjson even :/
[20:06:30] Beirdo: for serializing/deserializing json for things like mythweather and other such things
[20:06:34] Beirdo: not in the API
[20:06:54] Beirdo: do we have another equivalent JSON serializer already around?
[20:07:23] dblain: np, I am currently adding deserialiation support to the api but it will be limited to deserializing datacontract classes and intrinsic types
[20:08:01] Beirdo: ahh. This one will do QObjects (if you setup the QObject with attributes) and seemed to be useful :)
[20:08:03] dblain: The only json support I know if is in the api framework, but the serialization classes is also limited to datacontracts onlyu
[20:08:36] dblain: (datacontracts are QObjects with QProperties)
[20:09:04] dblain: either way, just figured I'd let you know what I;m working on.
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[20:13:07] Beirdo: cool :)
[20:13:21] Beirdo: thanks, it's helpful for sure
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[22:06:49] dekarl: danielk22: #10649 appears to be your area of expertise. Maybe you can take a peek when you got some spare time?
[22:06:49] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10649 **
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[22:15:18] stichnot: kenni: after the live TV changes in master and fixes/0.25, are you still seeing those weird failures 4 minutes after a program transition?
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[23:07:00] jya: what profilers are you guy using when using a profiler ?
[23:10:44] jya: stuartm: If you need a smtp relay server to send some email, I have one set up I can simply create an account for you for the time being
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[23:52:02] Beirdo: I hate Qt sometimes.
[23:57:54] Beirdo: jya: I've used oprofile before with myth
[23:58:00] Beirdo: been a while though
[23:58:42] jya: Beirdo: thanks.. I want to find out why HDPVR content is now to complex to play on a mac when it used to be fine with 0.24
[23:58:52] Beirdo: ahh
[23:58:55] Beirdo: fun

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