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Tuesday, April 10th, 2012, 00:01 UTC
[00:01:29] Beirdo: not that it does any harm on the side branch for the mean time anyways :)
[00:07:50] dblain: I only saw decompression in datadirect... I needed compression. Either way, where I put it in the branch isn't where it belongs long term.
[00:08:23] dblain: I didn't look at http downloader.
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[00:37:59] skd5aner: wagnerrp: search the release notes for the commit details on the stereoscopic stuff – might find details?
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[00:39:08] wagnerrp: what a novel idea.. :)
[00:40:25] skd5aner: I think I put everything as "3d", not "stereo-scopic" – so there's things like keybindings, etc
[00:40:49] wagnerrp: yeah, it mentions top-bottom and side-by-side
[00:40:59] wagnerrp: but doesnt really explain what it is capable of beyond that
[00:41:06] skd5aner: Add several 3D related keybindings – unbound by default (see commit for details) [6b2bdae]
[00:41:38] skd5aner: I honestly don't think there were many commits related to it
[00:42:14] skd5aner: maybe just a couple, oh well
[00:42:23] skd5aner: thought it might give you a breadcrumb trail to follow
[00:42:36] wagnerrp: yeah, thanks
[00:42:52] wagnerrp: i knew there wasnt a whole lot added, just didnt know specifically what it was
[00:43:37] skd5aner: oh, btw... when 0.25 gets cut... someone should go into the wiki and change the following: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Template:CurrentRelease , http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Template:CurrentFixes , & http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Template:CurrentDevelopment
[00:43:53] skd5aner: I know some packagers use those templates to help tag as well
[00:44:08] skd5aner: (or so I've heard)
[00:44:47] skd5aner: I'd do it, but I'm likely to be in bed
[00:46:25] wagnerrp: Beirdo: are you going to be doing that tonight?
[00:49:16] skd5aner: Yea, and whoever does it... how about an excited, detailed news story announcing it... none of this 1 or 2 line "it's released, go grab it... have fun" stuff. ;-)
[00:49:34] skd5aner: ya know... something that sounds professional and legit (and happy)? :)
[00:53:54] Beirdo: skd5aner: you want something from marketing, you might wanna hire some marketing folks :)
[00:55:50] skd5aner: Just a suggestion to not create the news story as a last minute "oh yea" afterthought... I mean, 16 months of hard work deserves more than 5 minutes trying to hurridly put together an announcement of said work for the world
[00:56:01] Beirdo: I'm planning to put a quick announcement up, but as for the rolling of all the Current stuff... if there's someone who can give a hand there, that would be goo
[00:56:18] Beirdo: I'll be releasing and then getting the git cutover in place
[00:57:56] Beirdo: having another pair of hands and eyes for the wiki, etc would be useful
[01:01:06] skd5aner: I guess since I opened my mouth, I could volunteer to write up an announcement... if you'd like
[01:01:14] Beirdo: :)
[01:01:22] skd5aner: you can then edit/craft/delete/purge/etc
[01:01:26] Beirdo: You'd probably do a way better job than I would
[01:01:29] skd5aner: want me to get a draft to you?
[01:01:33] Beirdo: sure
[01:01:54] skd5aner: k, I'll throw something together
[01:02:00] Beirdo: thanks ;)
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[01:11:37] skd5aner: Hey – just from a fun "stat" perspective – anyone know the # count of commits that went into Master during this dev cycle?
[01:15:39] Beirdo: one moment
[01:17:16] Beirdo: grindd.....
[01:17:28] Beirdo: gjhurlbu@mythbe:~/src/mythtvmeta/mythtv$ git diff --shortstat v0.25pre 4654 files changed, 846556 insertions(+), 474209 deletions(-)
[01:17:44] Beirdo: that's not quite what I was looking for
[01:19:41] Beirdo: gjhurlbu@mythbe:~/src/mythtvmeta/mythtv$ git describe --match v0.25pre
[01:19:42] Beirdo: v0.25pre-5210-gcffed2b
[01:19:45] Beirdo: there we go
[01:20:10] Beirdo: so from where we made the 0.25pre tag until current tip of master... 5210 commits
[01:28:16] skd5aner: great, thanks
[01:28:38] skd5aner: quick question – if someone branches, and makes 100 commits to that branch, then merges to MASTER, does that get counted as 1 commit or 100?
[01:29:08] skd5aner: and, was the -pre tag made on Oct 19 2010?
[01:29:24] Beirdo: 101, likely (including the merge itself)
[01:29:34] skd5aner: cool, that's good
[01:29:49] Beirdo: sounds about right on the date
[01:29:56] Beirdo: holy crap, that's been a long time
[01:30:00] skd5aner: yea
[01:30:16] skd5aner: I'm putting that in the release announcement... ha, you'll see
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[01:49:04] skd5aner: Beirdo: if I send the raw script, I'm assuming you can figure out the links to add, correct? or do you want me to put in the <a href> links?
[01:49:34] Beirdo: if they aren't obvious, sure, add them
[01:50:26] Beirdo: less thinking I gotta do, the less likely I'll screw it up :)
[01:51:03] skd5aner: You'll have to add the links to the tarballs and MD5
[01:51:04] skd5aner: s
[01:51:10] skd5aner: grrrr... MD5s
[01:51:43] skd5aner: actually, assuming you use the same format, I can just interprolate
[01:52:48] Beirdo: yeah, fair enough
[01:55:21] skd5aner: Beirdo: hmmmm, looks like the links may be dynamically generated? for example, the 0.23 and 0.24 annoucement both point to 0.24.2 for MythTV and MythPlugins
[01:55:38] skd5aner: not sure how it does that, maybe some variable gets set within the story rather than a hard link?
[01:55:45] Beirdo: heh, not sure
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[02:02:57] skd5aner: Beirdo (et al): Here's my attempt at crafting an announcement – http://pastebin.com/bQjLsdrC
[02:03:12] skd5aner: let me know what you think – I'm getting ready to step away for the evening in a few
[02:04:13] Beirdo: looks good to me.
[02:04:25] skd5aner: doh – see a typo (the 4'th time I proofread it
[02:05:52] skd5aner: Beirdo: http://pastebin.com/tP47tpd0  – minor tweaks and typo fix
[02:06:54] Beirdo: cool
[02:07:03] skd5aner: doh... reading again, gonna make another change
[02:07:08] ** skd5aner is running on fumes **
[02:08:18] skd5aner: http://pastebin.com/kj0qb0Nt
[02:08:21] skd5aner: last one, promise
[02:09:17] skd5aner: Good luck tonight – great work everyone – my thanks for all the work you put into this project so the rest of us bums can enjoy the fruits of your labor and have our own fun little hobbies
[02:09:24] Beirdo: hehe
[02:10:14] skd5aner: Beirdo: triple check all of those links... and I'm leaving the tarball/MD5 stuff up to you since it appears to be autogenerated somehow???
[02:10:28] Beirdo: sounds good to me.
[02:10:28] skd5aner: I could have hardcoded them, but decided against it
[02:11:04] Beirdo: thanks, it saves a lot of thinking :) Some people are better than others at writing announcements :)
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[02:41:11] skd5aner: eerily quiet for release night
[02:41:44] superm1: at what point are the new fixes branches forked? after the release is tagged in master i take it?
[02:46:48] stichnot: danielk22: in FileRingBuffer::safe_read(), I comment out "if (oldfile) break;" and change the later line to "if (zerocnt >= (oldfile ? 4 : (livetvchain ? 6 : 40)))" and so far smooth live tv transitions
[02:47:06] stichnot: using 3 or 2 instead of 4 doesn't work
[02:48:40] stichnot: I have a feeling that OS or file system buffering is keeping the reader thread from seeing the write soon enough
[02:57:00] Beirdo: yes, very shortly after release
[03:20:37] danielk22: stichnot: I don't think it is OS or file system buffering, the in core representation of the disk is updated as soon as the call to write() finishes.
[03:22:24] danielk22: stichnot: But if you can commit this tonight I think we can call it a wrap. Going through that loop 4 times won't have much in the way of negative side effects and is probably the best we can hope for in 0.26.
[03:22:40] stichnot: you mean 0.25?
[03:22:46] danielk22: Yeah :)
[03:24:35] stichnot: ok, I'll commit that but continue looking for the real problem, maybe for -fixes
[03:27:24] jya: allright.. I'm back home… Is there anything I can help with in regards to the livetv/buffer issue ?
[03:29:45] stichnot: jya: try http://pastebin.com/J5tSRtxf while I put the kids to bed
[03:32:48] jya: that's applying on current master?
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[03:40:00] stichnot: jya: yes, current master, plus I recommend using http://code.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket . . . 30-sec.patch
[03:40:44] jya: I'm trying to see if I can reproduce the problem on my mac first… That would be easier for me to test
[03:40:57] jya: but so far I've been changing channels every 10s or so, and no error
[03:45:42] stichnot: I don't recall having the problem with channel changes, just program transitions
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[03:49:30] jya: how does the patch above simulate the program transition ?
[03:49:45] jya: still 2012-04–10 13:48:49.045116 I RingBuf(myth://192.168.10.11:6543/1073_20120410134812.mpg): Waited 0.2 seconds for data
[03:50:05] jya: every 2s or so in the log, until I pause of a few seconds or rewind 10s
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[03:51:26] jya: If I was to run stock master with http://code.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket . . . 0-sec.patch, will it normally show the problem just watching liveTV?
[03:56:02] stichnot: yes. for me, it may survive one or two program transitions, but eventually just freezes up and kicks back to the main menu
[03:56:41] jya: ohhh...
[03:57:04] jya: am I supposed to patch just the frontend end, or this is for the backend ?
[03:58:13] stichnot: I think both patches (my pastebin and daniel's 30-sec.patch) are backend-only, but i'm not positive and i restart the frontend to be safe
[03:58:39] jya: ok.. I was only testing the frontend here, didn't touch on the backend
[03:58:47] jya: no wonder I couldn't see anything wrong
[03:58:50] stichnot: :)
[04:08:06] jya: ok.. done recompiling mythbackend..
[04:08:08] jya: let see
[04:09:31] stichnot: with the 30-sec.patch, you actually have to wait 90 seconds for the first transition... one of the longest 90 seconds in existence
[04:10:44] jya: ok… how can i tell that something is occurring after 30s?
[04:11:49] stichnot: press Play or Info or Select to see how far into the 30s segment you are, and if it's transitioned since you last looked
[04:12:12] jya: ah… got it
[04:12:23] jya: 1000s of 2012-04–10 14:12:16.782522 E decoding error
[04:12:23] jya: eno: Input/output error (5)
[04:12:25] stichnot: also, it may be useful to display the Playback Data screen
[04:12:46] jya: ah after hanging for a good 20s, it has recovered
[04:12:47] stichnot: that's without my pastebin patch?
[04:13:03] jya: I'm only running the 30s patch
[04:13:07] stichnot: good
[04:13:13] jya: I wanted to see if I could reproduce the problem
[04:13:19] jya: just to make sure it's fixed :)
[04:13:23] stichnot: indeed
[04:13:44] stichnot: I think I will be most interested when I discover why danielk22 is not seeing this problem.
[04:13:56] jya: right now, every 30s, it seems to only hang for 15–20s, wtih heaps of I/O error, but I don't go back to the main menu there
[04:14:26] stichnot: that sometimes happens to me, but eventually it just gives up
[04:16:40] stichnot: I have to step away, will be back in 30 minutes
[04:16:41] jya: weird.. I haven't had much interruption in the past 3 minutes
[04:18:06] jya: it gets to waiting 17s for data… I know that if it goes over 20s it will go back to the menu
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[04:25:09] jya: stichnot: With the patch http://pastebin.com/J5tSRtxf
[04:25:26] jya: there's no long pause or 1000s of line of logs anymore
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[04:49:51] stichnot: jya, danielk22: since the workaround seems to work, I'll commit it now, but continue working on the root cause
[04:53:11] Beirdo: cool
[04:53:25] Beirdo: sounds like we have something provisionally releasable then
[04:54:50] Beirdo: I'm sure fixes/0.25 will have the full fix soon enough :)
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[04:57:57] jya: stichnot: with the patch, Ive seen no hang in playback
[04:58:05] jya: and the log is much much shorter
[04:58:18] jya: I think I made pastebin crash trying to upload one of the log
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[05:00:57] jya: I got MB worth of logs without your patch
[05:12:28] Beirdo: come on, gnuais... start up!
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[05:19:04] jya: Beirdo: so you wait for stichnot commit right?
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[05:19:17] Beirdo: yes
[05:19:29] Beirdo: hopefully not TOO late please :)
[05:19:40] Beirdo: (10:19pm here) :)
[05:24:17] Beirdo: come on alsa
[05:25:24] Beirdo: figures.
[05:25:39] Beirdo: the machine I wanna test some audio stuff on... has non-working audio :)
[05:27:15] stichnot: sorry guys, back now and doing the commit
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[05:30:02] stichnot: pushed
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[05:57:01] jya: $1,000,000 for this… it's just unbelievable.
[05:57:02] jya: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-04-10/i . . . in-two-years
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[07:28:22] Beirdo: OK, release is made, about to update alcor to start mirroring.
[07:28:34] Beirdo: first, pulling it all one last time to be sure
[07:29:05] Beirdo: actually, cloning
[07:29:11] Beirdo: to be more precise
[07:32:15] Beirdo: meanwhile my AIS capture is working
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[07:38:18] superm1: Beirdo: hum when i tried to do the packaging checkout, looks like the themes branches need fixes/0.25 created too
[07:38:23] superm1: is that up to theme authors?
[07:38:37] Beirdo: themes branches?
[07:38:42] superm1: (specifically the mythbuntu theme – that's the only one we checkout)
[07:38:53] Beirdo: like on the individual themes? That will need to be done by a themer
[07:39:01] superm1: github.com/Mythtv-Themes/Mythbuntu.git
[07:39:18] Beirdo: yeah, I wasn't intending to touch that
[07:39:45] superm1: ok, i'll ping gbutters to try to make the new branch
[07:42:40] Beirdo: OK, mythtv is now mirrored.
[07:42:46] Beirdo: now for mythweb
[07:45:24] superm1: hmm Beirdo did you create and then delete the fixes/0.25 branch at https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv ?
[07:45:34] superm1: it was there a pull ago and gone all of a sudden the next time i tried
[07:45:37] Beirdo: one second
[07:45:53] Beirdo: there
[07:46:06] Beirdo: I forgot to push the new branch, sorry :)
[07:46:18] Beirdo: to alcor (which mirrors it)
[07:46:27] superm1: oh i see :)
[07:46:28] Beirdo: so when I turned on mirroring, it deleted it :)
[07:46:31] Beirdo: oops
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[07:47:30] Beirdo: I noticed just as I pushed the branch to mythweb and you asked about at the exact same time
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[07:50:26] Beirdo: mythweb mirrored
[08:02:50] Beirdo: extras mirrored
[08:03:02] Beirdo: note to self. push the damn config FIRST :)
[08:05:09] ** stuarta chuckles **
[08:07:42] Beirdo: packaging mirrored
[08:07:49] Beirdo: one more... nuvexport.
[08:11:32] Beirdo: OK, and nuvexport is mirrored
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[08:16:15] Beirdo: now to save myself trouble, I'm recloning from code.mythtv.org
[08:16:54] Beirdo: and while that runs, let's put the announcement in place
[08:17:59] ricky_nz: cd ..
[08:21:54] kenni: Beirdo: are these 100+ commit-messages from 2003 to mythtv-commits intended?
[08:22:04] kenni: (just in case you haven't noticed them)
[08:22:10] Beirdo: yes
[08:22:22] kenni: ok, good :)
[08:22:28] Beirdo: it's a one-time thing due to the mirroring, etc.
[08:22:38] kenni: ok
[08:22:41] Beirdo: not to worry, it won't spam ancient crap again :)
[08:22:53] Beirdo: if it does, I will pound it hard with a hammer
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[08:37:58] stuartm: disable the email hook until it's finished?
[08:40:56] stuarta: what's a few more emails here and there
[08:41:20] stuarta: i've still got 1300+ to catch up on
[08:42:38] stuartm: stuarta: 1500+ incoming then ;)
[08:43:28] stuartm: every commit ever made to nuvexport and other components moved to the extras repo
[08:43:49] stuarta: hehe
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[08:51:07] Beirdo: yah
[08:51:08] Beirdo: it's off
[08:51:14] Beirdo: bloody hell
[08:51:38] Beirdo: I just noticed that. OMG, what a cluster fuck THAT was. My sincere apologies on that
[08:53:03] Beirdo: the one time the damned github hooks actually WORKED
[08:54:38] stuartm: just temporarily changed my procmail config to send commit emails to /dev/null ... easier than deleting them all
[08:54:53] Beirdo: yeah, it should settle out pretty soon.
[08:55:05] Beirdo: frick.
[08:56:00] ** stuarta watches his mailserver logs get busy **
[08:56:22] Beirdo: thank GOD it was only extras, not mythtv :)
[08:56:43] Beirdo: I'd have to go preemptively shoot myself in the foot for that
[08:56:50] stuartm: heh
[08:57:29] ** stuarta suspects there would be a lineup of volunteers to do the shooting **
[08:57:33] stuartm: although maybe it's going through all repos in alphabetical order ... !
[08:57:53] Beirdo: I expected about 50 commits to get sent out
[08:57:59] Beirdo: not all of them
[08:58:19] Beirdo: nah, extras was the only one that actually got redone
[08:58:22] stuartm: I wonder if we can flush the queue on alcor rather than continuing to send them out
[08:58:28] Beirdo: oooh
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[08:58:56] Beirdo: man I must be tired
[08:59:02] Beirdo: OK, stopped postfix
[08:59:10] Beirdo: let's toss crap
[08:59:11] stuartm: of course once we figure that out it will probably be too late ;)
[08:59:58] Beirdo: thank you
[09:00:09] Beirdo: postsuper: Deleted: 1486 messages
[09:00:13] Beirdo: a bit late, but...
[09:01:28] Beirdo: and another 181 that were being ground upon at the time
[09:02:28] Beirdo: that thought saved us a lot more pain
[09:02:33] Beirdo: good thinking :)
[09:02:52] stuartm: are those single commit emails, i.e. mailman uses BCC?
[09:03:23] Beirdo: no, it will lump them together by destination
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[09:03:43] Beirdo: so if 10 of us are on gmail, it will all go to gmail in one message
[09:03:49] stuartm: ah
[09:04:02] Beirdo: but due to the fact that most of us are on separate servers :)
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[09:04:40] Beirdo: now that was an unfortunate happenstance.
[09:04:55] Beirdo: I shall receive my beatings tomorrow, I am sure.
[09:08:37] stuartm: Beirdo: it will be a little while before I get my clone sorted out, can you tag 0.24 with 0.24.3 (want a tag/release at the last official commit so those using tarballs can benefit from the 20–30 commits made since 0.24.2)?
[09:10:02] stuartm: hmm, actually nevermind, I'll do it, I'll still need to reclone to push the new tarballs
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[09:12:06] jya: Beirdo: only those doing nothing can claim they never screwed anything
[09:12:52] Beirdo: heh, true
[09:15:37] Beirdo: if you commit, please ignore the trac error. I'll fix that tomorrow.
[09:15:54] Beirdo: need to make it so the git user has read/write perms on the trac dir
[09:16:22] Beirdo: and then at that point, teh Refs stuff should work again
[09:16:40] Beirdo: and I need to roll out the buildbot hooks as well
[09:16:59] Beirdo: and configure trac for multiple repos (now that it supports it, apparently)
[09:17:23] Beirdo: but all things that can wait for a night of sleep
[09:18:16] Beirdo: night all :) Hopefully tomorrow will be a good day :)
[09:18:20] stuarta: nn
[09:18:27] stuartm: g'night
[09:24:29] Beirdo: oh, someone can change the topic in -users if they wish. Just crossed my mind just now
[09:26:31] stuarta: will do
[09:28:42] jya: well, this deserves some celebrations of some kind for sure...
[09:28:58] jya: Congratulations to all… That has been a big effort so far.
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[09:31:31] stuarta: topic done
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[09:35:19] jya: there's no otherway than re-cloning the whole lot ?
[09:37:52] jya: stuarta: what do you mean by topic done ?
[09:39:25] stuarta: [10:24] < Beirdo> oh, someone can change the topic in -users if they wish. Just crossed my mind just now
[09:41:31] jya: ah, I thought you meant in reference to self-congratulating each-others
[09:41:45] ** stuarta beers self **
[09:43:42] jya: weird that I never heard of that one earlier: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9777
[09:44:56] stuarta: it's quite hardware dependent
[09:45:17] stuarta: some hardware you can give it the centre freq, and it'll happily tune up or down to the offset freq
[09:45:23] stuarta: some just plain fail
[09:45:36] stuarta: then reading back the actual freq from the card is also problematic
[09:45:43] stuarta: historically at least
[09:54:53] jya: so you think the bug reported is all to do with the hardware/v4l drivers vs myth not handling something properly?
[09:56:10] stuarta: no idea tbh
[09:56:22] stuarta: just saying it could be across both
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[10:12:30] jya: is it just me or the "Please Wait…" window in Arclight now appears in tiny fonts
[10:12:40] jya: it does so on all my frontend, including mac ones
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[10:40:48] kenni: jya: no, I think it got introduced with Arclight v25.12
[10:40:58] kenni: I'm seeing it as well
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[10:50:41] ikke-t: is there a repo for .25 for oneiric?
[10:51:17] ikke-t: it seems precise has it already
[10:51:24] stuarta: no idea
[10:51:55] stuarta: they have been building master, so they should have a 0.25 release soon
[10:52:11] stuarta: specifically to make it before the freeze
[10:52:28] stuarta: as the next release freezes this week
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[10:54:21] ikke-t: i would want to update it on old os first before upgrading the os. Just to break one thing at the time.... :)
[10:54:34] ikke-t: actually, forget oneiric, i would need 10.04
[10:55:01] ikke-t: and don't want compile and set everything up from /usr/local just for one week...
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[11:08:20] sphery: stuartm: was just about to create a Trac version for 0.25 (released 04/10/12 00:10:53 , per the tag), but was wondering if we want both a 0.25 and 0.25-fixes
[11:08:51] sphery: (the version field for trac, that reporters select on new bug reports, that is)
[11:10:01] sphery: I guess we can remove the extra if we don't want both, so I'll just put them both in for now (we had both for 0.24/0.24-fixes... guess it makes sense so users can say they're using the release tarball versus -fixes)
[11:10:07] stuarta: need a milestone 0.25-fixes
[11:10:30] ** stuarta tries thinking **
[11:10:44] stuarta: doesn't hurt having both
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[11:18:17] stuartm: milestone should be a future release version e.g. 0.25.1
[11:18:23] sphery: Yeah, I agree. They're in there, now. And, FWIW, I put the 0.25-fixes time just after 0.25 time so -fixes is higher in the list, this time (since we didn't branch early, it seemed reasonable to do that)--so it actually looks like 0.25-fixes is newer than 0.25
[11:18:33] knightr: Hi! Do we change http://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/UsingGit to point to our new repo or we wait a little to see that everything went smoothly before updating the page?
[11:18:39] sphery: yeah, I just added versions so far
[11:20:26] stuartm: versions should be official releases, and yes I suppose -fixes, although it doesn't actually tell us what version they are using, e.g. it could be -fixes before the 0.25.1 point release
[11:23:12] jya: so we give people github server for checkout purposes?
[11:23:16] jya: not our server?
[11:23:35] jya: Re: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/
[11:25:07] knightr: jya, same problem with the URL I posted above (http://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/UsingGit) it just wasn't updated but do we want to update it right now or wait a little to make sure everything went smoothly?
[11:25:23] jya: allright.. off to bed for me.. Goodnight everyone, and once again, congrats to all for the hard work
[11:25:42] sphery: jya: yeah, since it will be mirrored of ours, we might as well let github handle the traffic and be our "public" face
[11:25:45] knightr: I was tempted to update the Git URL given but then I thought it might have been left to the old URLs on purpose for now...
[11:25:53] jya: knightr: yeah… the /trac one had just been updated ...
[11:26:10] knightr: jyw, ah, ok, thank you!
[11:26:41] sphery: I was just now going through and updating the trac pages and hadn't gotten to UsingGit, yet
[11:28:03] knightr: sphery, I could have done it that's why I was asking the question but I didn't want to do it if that's not what we wanted... I have to go now though, ttyl...
[11:29:16] stuartm: sphery: assuming that github's mirroring isn't as unreliable as their commit hooks
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[11:31:44] sphery: Pretty sure our server is pushing the commits to github, but I may be wrong. If our server is pushing to github, the only issues will be actual github service downtime. I'm sure Beirdo could verify or correct me.
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[11:44:33] sphery: BTW, I removed the "create a github account and link it to your mythtv.org e-mail address" information from UsingGit (the stuff that only applied to those with push privileges). Others please feel free to look over the page and fix/update it as appropriate. Thanks. http://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/UsingGit
[11:45:15] sphery: (forgot to say, "since the github account/mythtv.org address stuff no longer applies" :)
[11:47:21] amessina: y
[11:48:20] amessina: Oops. I mean to say, thank you for the hard work you all have done for 0.25. It's much appreciated!
[11:49:03] sphery: Would be nice, too, if someone who can update the web site could remove the "MythTV Themes 0.24" link from: http://www.mythtv.org/download (there's no replacement as all but the default themes are external, now--and users should be getting them through the Theme Chooser)
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[12:04:25] stuartm: sphery: done
[12:04:41] stuartm: I'll fix the date on Beirdo's news post too ...
[12:04:57] sphery: thanks
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[12:06:27] stuartm: ok, 0.25 was no longer released in 1970
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[12:13:05] stuartm: I've completed 0.25 and added 0.25.1 for one month from today
[12:21:57] stuartm: [18806]
[12:21:57] MythLogBot: SVN 18806: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/c41f2d68
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[12:42:45] sphery: stuartm: want to fix the release notes link typo, too? http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /331302.html Thanks
[12:43:20] sphery: seems download also--actually all the links have at least an extra "
[12:46:28] sphery: stuartm: FWIW, here was the draft (which includes link locations) since some may have been eaten by the script that created the news item? http://pastebin.com/kj0qb0Nt
[12:47:19] sphery: or maybe it's just the extra spaces confusing things
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[13:01:40] skd5aner: and, stupid me, left yet another typo in the announcement too...
[13:01:58] skd5aner: s/including a HTTP Live Streaming capabilities for delivering video content, in real-time, via the API/including HTTP Live Streaming capabilities for delivering video content, in real-time, via the API
[13:02:05] skd5aner: (remove the "a" before "HTTP"
[13:02:07] skd5aner: )
[13:02:41] skd5aner: lol – those links are all sorts of screwed up
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[13:25:16] stichnot: trying to reclone, getting this error: fatal: '/opt/gitolite/repositories/mythv.git' does not appear to be a git repository
[13:25:30] stichnot: what am I doing wrong?
[13:26:09] stichnot: ah, mythtv, not mythv
[13:27:00] ** Seeker` wonders if everyone has become victim to a typo virus today **
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[13:35:12] Seeker`: I should probably get my dev environement set up again if there is a possibility of implmeneting new features again
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[13:55:27] Seeker`: I just got the video buffering failed too many times message again :/
[13:56:43] stichnot: with live TV?
[13:57:01] Seeker`: yup
[13:57:27] Seeker`: running https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/ . . . 62a-0ubuntu1
[13:59:36] Seeker`: are you using a combined front/backend?
[14:02:16] Seeker`: stichnot: ^
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[14:03:50] stichnot: Seeker`: no, separate backend
[14:04:34] stichnot: are you getting the buffering failed message just at program transition points?
[14:06:52] Seeker`: yes
[14:09:48] stichnot: ok. The last checkin was just a band-aid. I'm still working to figure out the real cause of the problem, hopefully I'll have it within a week.
[14:10:29] Seeker`: ok
[14:10:50] Seeker`: I'm disappearing tomorrow until Sunday, so it won't really have any impact on me until then :)
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[14:55:13] skd5aner: so, is anyone going to fix the broken links on the announcement?
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[16:26:43] stuartm: sphery: fixed the links, but git on the server has fallen over or something and won't let me put the fixes to the repo
[16:27:06] stuartm: error: insufficient permission for adding an object to repository database ./objects
[16:27:11] stuartm: worked earlier so ...
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[16:32:11] wagnerrp: this is against the alcor git, and not github?
[16:33:37] stuartm: fix it, for some reason a few files in objects were missed group rw perms
[16:33:40] stuartm: fixed
[16:33:55] stuartm: wagnerrp: www has always been on alcor
[16:34:12] stuartm: it never moved to github since it's not a public repo
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[16:35:34] stuartm: published fixes, they should now be live
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[16:40:21] stuartm: sphery: for some reason in copy/pasting that draft someone's editor subtituted the " for close quotes ” (which my IRC client renders the same, but they are different characters)
[16:40:54] stuartm: quotes vs double ticks
[16:47:08] Beirdo: thanks for fixing the mess. That was copied from pastebin, I guess somehow it got the stupid " in UTF-8?
[16:50:24] wagnerrp: can we switch over to the new repo yet?
[16:50:36] sphery: I think we did :)
[16:50:52] wagnerrp: i mean... can we start committing to it yet
[16:51:06] sphery: I /think/ it's ready... Beirdo?
[16:51:15] sphery: stuartm: thanks for fixing the quotes/links
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[16:53:19] Beirdo: yes
[16:53:42] Beirdo: it's probably easiest for all to just reclone, but you don't need to if you don't want to
[16:54:06] Beirdo: some of the branches got renamed, so cleaner if you you do :)
[16:54:21] sphery: obviously wagnerrp doesn't subscribe to the 3-weeks-of-vacation-after-release approach
[16:55:37] Beirdo: hehe
[16:55:57] Beirdo: I'll be fixing the trac hook today while redoing a lovely VM at work
[16:56:07] Beirdo: buildbot hook after that
[16:57:48] Beirdo: anyways, better move my butt or I'll miss the bus
[17:06:19] gigem: Captain_Murdoch: i think you need to create the 0.25 directory for the theme chooser now. anyone who builds from fixes/0.25 won't be able to see the themes until that's fixed.
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[17:07:19] Captain_Murdoch: gigem, they can see local themes. there has only been 1 themer to notify me so far saying they're 0.25 compatible. his will show up in the chooser tomorrow. I already packaged the stock 3 themes from 0.25-fixes and they'll show up tomorrow as well.
[17:08:02] Captain_Murdoch: make that 2, just got another notification from Elkin RE: Willi.
[17:15:30] gigem: i thought there were several themes available for master/trunk. shouldn't the now all automatically be available for 0.25?
[17:16:06] gigem: s/ the / they /
[17:16:14] stuartm: Beirdo: does re-cloning mean losing local branches?
[17:17:12] gigem: stuartm: probably. that's why i used "git remote set-url"
[17:17:57] sphery: stuartm: you can re-clone, then on your original (with branches), change the origin (or create a new remote) that's your own local clone of the new alcor repo and checkout the old-repo-local-branches and push them to your new-local-repo
[17:18:33] sphery: changing origin is likely ok since after pushing those branches to the new repo you won't be using that repo (and since you can't/shouldn't push to github, anymore, anyway)
[17:18:40] stuartm: I think I'll use set-url
[17:21:20] ** sphery assumes there are better "git approved" words that should have been used in his description, but it looks like you got the point (or thought of the same approach yourself :) **
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[17:38:22] dblain: Preparing to merge my ServiceAPI branch into master (will delete branch when done). I'm trying to avoid the merge commit since there have been a large number of commits since I created the branch. Is rebase allowed/good idea/bad idea?
[17:38:25] Captain_Murdoch: gigem, there are lots available in master, but that doesn't mean they're compatible with master or ready for release with 0.25. some are still works in progress.
[17:39:42] Captain_Murdoch: so themers need to tell me (until I get a website written eventually) that their theme is compatible with a new release. plus, most themers now have separate branches for 0.24 and master, so they'll create a 0.25 branch and can still keep master for working with our master.
[17:42:49] Beirdo: dblain: I'd suggest against rebase
[17:42:54] xris: anyone see/handle the download email I sent to -developers?
[17:43:30] Beirdo: if you merge, it will only get a conflict if two people changed the code. An already-published branch should get merged
[17:43:49] Beirdo: xris: yeah, the links have been fixed, but the files aren't at OSU yet, it seems
[17:44:11] dblain: Beirdo: ok.
[17:44:37] xris: Beirdo: how long ago did you post them?
[17:45:08] Beirdo: at like 1am
[17:45:13] Beirdo: pacific
[17:45:22] xris: ok, something definitely wrong, then.
[17:45:24] xris: I'm asking OSU
[17:45:41] Beirdo: I'm not sure when it's supposed to run the sync
[17:45:53] Beirdo: but if they still aren't there, likely it's an issue somewhere
[17:46:15] dblain: Beirdo: just to double check... are we free to check in new features to master or do you want a week or two for things to settle?
[17:46:31] Seeker`: "settle"?
[17:46:40] Beirdo: sure, master's wide open :)
[17:46:52] Beirdo: just be sure to commit to code.mythtv.org :)
[17:47:01] dblain: yep, thanks
[17:47:16] Beirdo: I'm gonna wait a day or two before considering merging down the ffmpeg sync
[17:47:33] stichnot: I have plenty I'd like to commit, but no way I'm going to be the first :)
[17:47:39] Beirdo: it's working pretty well in my testing, but definitely can use more people pounding on it
[17:48:06] Beirdo: I only exercise so many of the possible codpaths in my usage :)
[17:48:12] stichnot: also, I feel morally obligated to figure out the live TV problem before moving on to anything "fun"
[17:48:57] Beirdo: :) Well, I'm glad it's not being abandoned :)
[17:49:17] Beirdo: it seemed to work OK for me, but I wasn't seeing the problem issues some were
[17:49:33] Beirdo: thank you for your ongoing bug hunting :)
[17:50:16] stichnot: my in-laws arrive in a week, I'd better have it fixed by then...
[17:51:33] Beirdo: hehe, might be best, especially if they like to channel surf
[17:51:34] sphery: xris: I thought the sync was evening time (so happened just a couple hours before the release), but I can't find where someone mentioned the exact time in my logs
[17:53:13] dblain: Well, I pulled the trigger... hope I merged correctly. I'm sure I'll be told if I didn't. :/
[17:53:47] xris: sphery: I thought it was every 15 minutes. or hourly. or something like that
[17:54:01] xris: hmm, scheduler is acting really weird. seems to completely ignore one of my tuners.
[17:54:31] sphery: oh, I was thinking daily... I wouldn't trust me, though--haven't paid a lot of attention to it
[17:54:31] Beirdo: OK, now to go tweak trac so the nasty messages stop, and the ticket integration works
[17:54:46] sphery: xris: make sure your Live TV and recording order is specified properly in mythtv-setup
[17:55:37] xris: I think it's just that it seems to prefer to record one thing at a time if it can, and delays recordings in order to make that happen.
[17:55:50] xris: if I set the preferred input to a specific tuner, things work fine.
[17:57:50] sphery: also note that if you had been (ab)using input or channel priorities to try to get a specific Live TV or recording order, that would cause what you're seeing... Now, with Live TV and recording order explicitly specified by the user, you should only use channel and input priorities to say, "I /really/ want it on this channel/input and don't want it on the other," or "I'd rather record garbage from this channel/input than a good show from ...
[17:57:56] sphery: ... another" :)
[17:58:15] sphery: (i.e. you should probably clear all channel and input priorities at this point and set up Live TV and recording order, instead)
[17:58:43] xris: sphery: I do have input priorities. would rather record clearqam stuff on my normal hdhr, and leave the prime available for other things.
[17:59:03] xris: I'll have to go check out that recording order stuff when I get home.
[17:59:38] sphery: right, so just set the prime as last in livetv and recording order... it's now (thanks to gigem ) nice and easy and doesn't require any of the hacks we used to use
[18:00:17] sphery: (probably my favorite feature in 0.25--just for how much easier it will make user support)
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[18:21:03] Captain_Murdoch: xris, sphery, automatic ftp rsync is once a day around 0400 UTC I believe.
[18:22:16] xris: not anymore
[18:22:22] xris: 4:30 and 16:30 UTC
[18:22:29] xris: just updated it.  :)
[18:28:28] Captain_Murdoch: fine by me, can get theme updates in sooner. :)
[18:32:23] xris: yeah, that was Beirdo's idea
[18:32:32] xris: I honestly thought it was a LOT more often than that
[18:32:42] xris: Captain_Murdoch: you moved yet?
[18:33:56] Captain_Murdoch: no, packing up things in ~2 weeks, won't be in WA until mid June though. living in a temp apartment here for ~5–6 weeks then 2 week vacation.
[18:34:05] xris: ah, "fun" heh.
[18:34:23] xris: you'll even miss the great beerfest by a week or two. that kind of sucks.  :)
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[18:54:27] Beirdo: OK, trac hooks almost working. :)
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[19:07:45] ** Beirdo waits to make sure this will compile. **
[19:14:15] Beirdo: gah
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[19:14:30] Beirdo: let me guess. It doesn't take fixes anymore, just closes.
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[19:24:51] Beirdo: 2012-04–10 19:13:46,982 Trac[api] WARNING: Found no repositories matching 'mythtv' base.
[19:24:54] Beirdo: haha
[19:24:55] Beirdo: OK
[19:25:00] Beirdo: that's easy to fix
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[19:28:58] Beirdo: hmm, or not completely easy :)
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[19:37:42] Beirdo: OK, we has multiple repos.
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[19:42:00] Beirdo: OK, robertm and paulh removed from trac
[19:43:43] fphillips: Beirdo, did you intend to commit the gcc 4.7 patch to fixes/0.25 instead of fixes/0.24?
[19:43:50] Beirdo: yes
[19:44:03] Beirdo: that's where it was created for
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[19:44:39] Beirdo: we don't really support gcc 4.7 yet anyways (nor clang), so...
[19:45:13] Beirdo: if stuartm wants, those could get backported before 0.24.3 goes out
[19:45:48] Beirdo: should be no harm in it
[19:46:05] stuartm: certainly won't hurt, extending the longevity of 0.24 by allowing it to compile with gcc 4.7 would probably be appreciated by some
[19:46:51] Beirdo: K, there's a gcc 4.7 and a clang one both on master
[19:47:20] Beirdo: I'll get to backporting in about an hour. Need to hunt down some food
[19:47:47] Beirdo: and NOW the "fixes #blah" should work in commit messages again
[19:48:17] Beirdo: I had to add the repos in trac (now have all the ones that hit github on there – except test)
[19:48:35] Beirdo: later today will be the buildbot too
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[19:55:59] wagnerrp: Beirdo: how long do you intend to keep the 0.24 build slaves around?
[19:57:51] Beirdo: hadn't really thought about it
[19:58:02] Beirdo: definitely until after 0.24.3
[19:58:15] Beirdo: past that, do we still want them?
[19:59:28] stuartm: Beirdo: might depend on whether we 'lock' 0.24 or allow people to keep back-porting to that version
[20:00:04] Beirdo: yeah, true
[20:01:02] stuartm: we might discuss that, personally I don't think we have the manpower to be worrying about 0.24 beyond this final point release, although that hasn't stopped me backporting a couple of things to 0.23 in the last year
[20:01:24] Beirdo: yeah, my thoughts exactly
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[20:43:15] Beirdo: MythBuild: force build 0.25-linux-64bit now
[20:43:16] MythBuild: build #0 forced
[20:43:16] MythBuild: I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[20:49:53] Beirdo: OK, seems that's all wrapped up
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[21:10:56] stuarta: i see no point in stopping commits to 0.24-fixes, it'll naturally drop off as things move forward
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[21:27:01] MythBuild: Hey! build 0.25-linux-64bit #0 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[21:27:01] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/0 **
[21:27:01] MythBuild: Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.25 . . . bit/builds/0
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[21:42:28] skd5aner: so – are you guys migrating away from github to your own git repository on alcor?
[21:43:26] sphery: skd5aner: we will be pushing our commits to our own repo on our own server (that has direct communication with mail server and trac hooks--so no problems like we had with missed updates from github), but then it will push those updates to github
[21:44:19] sphery: so, as far as the community sees, nothing has changed--they'll still clone/pull from github and have "instantaneous" access to newly-pushed commmits
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[21:44:54] sphery: the only real difference is for those who push--we push to a different location, now
[21:45:32] sphery: oh, and the fact that the reorganization of the repo means that many users will want to just re-clone the repo off github to prevent issues from renamed branches and such... I should maybe send an e-mail about that
[21:46:03] sphery: (reorg meaning we actually changed names of branches in the repo, so old clones have the old structure and will be "messier" than a new clone)
[21:51:05] danielk22: sphery: is there a guide somewhere on "replanting" local trees? i.e. I want to keep the changes I've checked in locally but sync with the new master/utc/rtp tree..
[21:51:21] skd5aner: sphery: ah, thanks for the clarification – had no clue what was going on – so it's kind of like a proxy at this point
[21:52:00] danielk22: (I know I can do it by generating patches and then applying them to a new checkout, but I assume there is a nicer way to do it.)
[21:52:30] sphery: danielk22: I don't know of a guide... the basic procedure is to add a new remote with git remote to one (I'd use the old repo since you'll be throwing it away so won't have to clean it up) and then pushing commits and/or branches to the new clone
[21:52:44] sphery: stuartm just did it earlier today so might be able to give you a nice list of commands he used
[21:53:01] danielk22: sphery: so basically like one does with a 'fork' ?
[21:53:32] sphery: (Oh, and an alternative is to just change the origin on your old repo to point to the new repo--edit origin url in .git/config or whatever the file is) and push changes that way (if you don't want to deal with an alternate remote)
[21:53:36] sphery: yeah, basically
[21:54:19] danielk22: thx
[21:54:59] sphery: could probably do it using your personal branch area on the new server, too, but I'd think just going direct from old to new repo would be easiest
[21:56:57] stuartm: sphery: it might be not work out, but I kept it simple and just change the remote origin, my local branches were unaffected
[21:57:34] stuartm: git config remote.origin.url git@code.mythtv.org :mythtv
[21:57:38] sphery: stuartm: ah, you mean you just pointed the old repo at the new server... that should work, but it leaves some old branch names in place
[21:58:07] stuartm: sphery: unlikely to ever touch those particular branches so no loss
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[21:59:16] stuartm: followed with a git pull --rebase it left my local branches/commits unchanged
[22:00:08] sphery: skd5aner: yeah, kind of like a proxy (but it is, in fact, a full-fledged repo/copy--in git there doesn't have to be just one server). The main benefit for users is that they still have access to all the github services, such as ability to fork, view other forks, network graph, code browser, ... through a nice web app (as well as github's bandwidth and "uptime guarantees" ;) and such)
[22:00:35] skd5aner: yea – and pull requests too
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[22:01:17] sphery: yeah, those are nice an easy for users (but, now, slightly more complex for us--since we can't just click a button to apply it)
[22:01:33] sphery: still easy enough, though (so no reason not to use them)
[22:05:10] Beirdo: stuartm: the extras repo will almost assuredly need to be re-cloned though :)
[22:05:40] sunkan: It looks like MythBase.php is missing from mythweb in fixes/0.25 is this a known issue?
[22:08:32] sunkan: and MythBackend.php ..
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[22:09:11] Beirdo: those are likely replaced with the PHP bindings
[22:10:09] sphery: sunkan: they've moved into the PHP bindings that are installed by mythtv (provided you have prerequisites installed)--see output of mythtv's configure
[22:10:28] sphery: (which is the slightly longer version of what Beirdo just said, it seems :)
[22:11:16] sunkan: Ah, now I understand.. There was some error during configure.. Thanks for the hint. Will look into it tomorrow..
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[22:21:20] ** stuarta upgrades prod system **
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[22:35:46] skd5aner: stuarta: race you
[22:35:55] skd5aner: (you'll probably win)
[22:36:19] stuarta: it's up and running
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[22:40:21] Beirdo: my brain hurts!
[22:41:41] ** stuarta beers Beirdo **
[22:41:58] Beirdo: hehe, that could help. Thanks
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[22:52:35] JoshTriplett: Anyone around using a Ceton InfiniTV?
[22:52:53] JoshTriplett: If so: do captions work?
[22:53:29] Beirdo: stuartm: OK, backports done, feel free to do 0.24.3 at will ;)
[22:54:50] Beirdo: JoshTriplett: seems like a #mythtv-users question to me
[22:54:50] skd5aner: stuartm: I have not created a 0.24.3 release notes page, and the 0.24-fixes is probably missing the last 1–15 commits which would be part of 0.24.3
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[22:55:13] skd5aner: s/the 0.24-fixes/the 0.24-fixes release notes page
[22:55:13] JoshTriplett: Beirdo: Sorry, forgot that mythtv doesn't do the -dev thing for the -dev channel like other projects. ;)
[22:55:17] JoshTriplett: Beirdo: Will do.
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[23:01:00] Beirdo: my poor backend box
[23:01:10] Beirdo: it's compiling master, 0.24, 0.25
[23:01:12] Beirdo: heheh
[23:02:52] Beirdo: http://pastebin.com/K1sn9SC2
[23:03:09] Beirdo: there. hooks all in place and happily reporting what they are up to
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[23:35:01] jya: stichnot: in regards to #10490 and LiveTV, what I'd like to understand is what taylorr reverses markk change, why markk did that change in the first place, why it was reversed.. I think once we get a clearer picture, it's more likely we can figure out the cause…
[23:35:01] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10490 **
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[23:47:27] stichnot: jya: I looked at those changes. Without fully understanding them, I can say that they are up at the MythPlayer level whereas there is something broken at the lower RingBuffer level that I need to understand.
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