| Friday, April 6th, 2012, 00:08 UTC | ||
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| [00:47:37] | stichnot: | danielk22: too late — the backend deleted the livetv file so I don't know what its size was. |
| [00:50:43] | danielk22: | stichnot: doh! Still got the backend log? I get the feeling this might be yet another bug.. The fix today was for Peter Townsend's last log, but it doesn't look like you hit that problem. |
| [00:51:16] | stichnot: | yeah, I have the backend log |
| [00:51:40] | stichnot: | I'll extract the relevant section and upload in a bit |
| [00:51:45] | danielk22: | thx |
| [01:05:34] | stichnot: | danielk22: excerpt from the backend log: |
| [01:05:36] | stichnot: | Expire autoexpire.cpp:640 (SendDeleteMessages) – Expiring 17 MB for 12720 at 2012-04–05T15:39:01 => Unknown |
| [01:05:54] | stichnot: | and: Expire autoexpire.cpp:640 (SendDeleteMessages) – Expiring 0 MB for 12720 at 2012-04–05T15:39:39 => Unknown |
| [01:06:12] | stichnot: | so it looks like that file was not empty |
| [01:11:56] | danielk22: | Hmm, so maybe the read ahead thread was stalled for some reason. It looks like we weren't seeing any of those bits. |
| [01:16:16] | stichnot: | danielk22: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket . . . 26941.log.gz |
| [01:31:55] | jya: | danielk22: something weird is occurring in LiveTV, I upgraded last week my main frontend. |
| [01:33:08] | jya: | In LiveTV, I press record. recording start. Now changing channels shows me all available channels. I select one (in different multiplex than the one I press record on). It actually tunes to the first channel within the recording multiplex |
| [01:33:25] | jya: | now browsing channels only shows me programs within the same multiplex |
| [01:33:57] | jya: | and I'm stuck within the multiplex once again |
| [01:35:01] | jya: | if I exit LiveTV and re-enter, I get back in the same multiplex and I'm stuck once again. |
| [01:35:28] | jya: | Has anything changed in the past few days to the fix you had added a short while ago (that made liveTV finally usable) |
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| [01:37:59] | danielk22: | jya: Do you have browse all enabled? If it isn't you can still tune to other recorders, but only by typing in the channel number and pressing select |
| [01:38:16] | jya: | I don't believe any settings have been changed on that frontend in month |
| [01:38:30] | jya: | let me try typing the channel number only |
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| [01:39:00] | danielk22: | There are some reports on channel browsing not working in the guide, but I can't think of anything that has changed. Except maybe the fix of the DB overrides. |
| [01:40:02] | jya: | pressing 9, get me to channel 9 (different multiplex)… so that at least does work |
| [01:40:09] | jya: | now where if browse all setting ? |
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| [01:40:13] | jya: | I can never remember that one |
| [01:41:17] | danielk22: | jya: mythfrontend Setup->Video->Playback OSD |
| [01:43:27] | jya: | ah! it was unchecked |
| [01:44:51] | jya: | all working fine.. |
| [01:44:59] | jya: | no idea why it became unchecked |
| [01:47:37] | danielk22: | *shrug* We should try to eliminate that in 0.26 and just always having it on. Right now it can cause a slowdown, but that is fixable. |
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| [01:56:59] | danielk22: | stichnot: It looks like something fishy is happening with the file. We manage to read the first 67116 bytes and then nothing. I think "-v record,file --loglevel debug" might be necessary to see what happens here + ideally an "ls -l" on the file before it gets deleted. |
| [01:57:54] | danielk22: | stichnot: It could be related to the issue stuarta is seeing, or be something else entirely, but I'm kinda hoping both are caused by some simple RingBuffer issue. |
| [01:58:36] | danielk22: | It's almost as if the read-ahead thread has just gone out to lunch. |
| [02:00:47] | jya: | danielk22: stichnot : may be worth reading this thread on the NZ mythtv mailing list |
| [02:01:05] | jya: | in particular the suggest fix that prevent the odd pause every few minutes |
| [02:02:37] | danielk22: | NZ? |
| [02:07:06] | danielk22: | This: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/510822& nbsp;? |
| [02:09:06] | danielk22: | We can increase max_video_queue_size pretty safely, I believe it will just consume a little more memory when the a/v mux in the recording is poor. |
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| [02:19:49] | jya: | danielk22: yes.. that one.. sorry, I just got a call as I was posting it |
| [02:25:02] | stichnot: | danielk22: I'll gather more FE/BE logs later this evening, after the mass of scheduled recordings is over. |
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| [02:58:22] | jya: | [18805] |
| [02:58:22] | MythLogBot: | SVN 18805: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/be8a01b2 |
| [03:05:30] | jya: | funny, the value I suggested 3 years ago actually works, by Janne used a lower one anywa |
| [03:05:31] | jya: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6501 |
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| [09:28:55] | kenni: | stuartm: Thanks a lot for fixing the date translation, I have had it untranslated on my frontends since I upgraded to pre0.25, but I assumed that it was caused by some change of syntax in the 0.25 source string combined with me not having completed the Danish 0.25 translation yet. |
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| [12:05:40] | Seeker`: | danielk22: Don't know if it is useful, but here is my backend log during a video frame buffering failed: http://pastebin.com/aibddadV |
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| [12:38:13] | danielk22: | Seeker`: That's a different issue than stichnot is seeing. In your case it's reading data, you are just too close to the end of the file. In stichnot's case it read some data and then stopped seeing any. |
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| [12:58:38] | Seeker`: | danielk22: ah, fair enough. |
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| [13:07:24] | stichnot: | danielk22, gigem: regarding #10545 . It looks like when two inputs in an input group have different sourceids, and one of them is tuning live TV and the other is free, channelbase.cpp:is_input_group_busy() returns true, basically because the channels have different sourcids. Why is that? |
| [13:07:24] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10545 ** | |
| [13:07:45] | stichnot: | note the comment in that function: // If they aren't using the same source they are definately busy |
| [13:09:11] | stichnot: | and even if that test is suppressed, it might get caught by the following test, whose comment is: // If the source's channels aren't digitally tuned then there is a conflict |
| [13:10:15] | danielk22: | stichnot: whenever two inputs in the same input group and one is in use they are all busy, with the exception of tuning multiple channels on the same mux. |
| [13:11:09] | stichnot: | danielk22: except in live TV, where the the current cardid is passed in as excluded_cardids |
| [13:13:03] | stichnot: | I'm afraid to touch that function, especially 2 days from the release |
| [13:13:09] | danielk22: | stichnot: Right, that's just to allow changing to channels on the current input. That could be extended to allow changing to another input in the same input group if we passed the input too. |
| [13:13:39] | danielk22: | stichnot: Don't touch it, this is something to consider for 0.26, but I'm not even sure this is an edge case worth taking care of. |
| [13:14:21] | stichnot: | yeah, I'm thinking to confirm that it's the case in the ticket, then push it to 0.26 (or even 0.25-fixes if practical) |
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| [13:47:37] | stichnot: | danielk22: regarding the FE/BE log request from last night. I have some logs, unfortunately the kids woke up too early so the backend logs are a bit polluted with playback info on another frontend. Do you think it's still worth looking at? |
| [13:48:12] | danielk22: | Sure as long as you can tell me what file to look for |
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| [14:00:08] | stichnot: | danielk22: last 2 attachments in http://code.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket/10490/ . Search for 'hdpvr' in the backend log for the start of live tv recording on channel 12720. |
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| [14:59:42] | knightr: | argh, s/parse/parsed |
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| [15:31:46] | gigem: | stichnot: looks like i just missed you. danielk22 knows that code best, so i'd go with what he says. i have a note to look at all of that again for 0.26 wrt visible channels. |
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| [15:59:15] | stichnot: | gigem: I think the excluded_cardids logic needs to be a bit "stronger" in is_input_group_busy(). I think the input group shouldn't be considered busy if the only active tuner in the group is in the excluded_cardid set. |
| [16:09:56] | stichnot: | gigem: if the reporter on the ticket provides info that shows the problem really is in is_input_group_busy(), then please feel welcome to grab the ticket :) |
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| [16:13:44] | stichnot: | danielk22: btw, I think it may be a corner case worth handling. If you only have the one input group, you're left with almost no way to switch inputs in live TV. (If you use the default or another input group, you can at least work around by switching out of the input group and then back in again.) |
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| [16:17:40] | natanojl: | gigem: Seems like you missed some parts in 543d7836. Does this look correct to you, http://pastebin.com/7sz1U9Qd ? |
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| [16:33:12] | blscearce: | wagnerrp: thanks for the help with getScheduled vs getUpcoming — managed to do what I wanted last night. But now I'm more confused. |
| [16:41:34] | blscearce: | I have five tuners on my Myth box — three in an HD Homerun box, and two older Hauppauge PVR-150s. I have the priority on the PVR-150s set lower than the HD Homerun, and the PVR-150s are rarely scheduled. One of the UI "System Status" pages reported that the PVR-150s were going to be used, which I thought must mean at some point in the next two weeks I am going to have five things being |
| [16:41:34] | blscearce: | recorded at once. But that's not happening — it's using one of the PVR-150s when only one of the HD Homerun tuners is in use. I must not understand how the scheduler works. |
| [16:43:30] | blscearce: | I should probably be talking about this on #mythtv-users...? not really a dev question |
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| [16:45:09] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [16:45:34] | wagnerrp: | ill explain what is happening there in the other channel |
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| [19:41:03] | jams: | danielk22- would #10545 be related to why I can't change the channel via program guide? It's a single analog tuner setup. The message states that "all available inputs are busy..." |
| [19:41:03] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10545 ** | |
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| [19:55:52] | gigem: | stichnot: your patch looks fine. fwiw, i don't think i've ever used the feature which triggers that. apparently no one else has until you. :) |
| [19:56:37] | stichnot: | gigem: do you mean natanojl ? |
| [19:57:10] | gigem: | stichnot: btw, you might have missed my earlier comment regarding is_input_group_busy(). i believe that's danielk22's code and i intend to defer to him on it unless he wants or needs help. |
| [19:57:25] | gigem: | stichnot: sigh, yes. i've been doing that a lot lately. |
| [19:57:28] | stichnot: | yeah, I saw that, thanks |
| [19:57:29] | gigem: | natanojl: ^^^ |
| [19:58:50] | natanojl: | gigem: :) |
| [20:03:00] | stichnot: | gigem: you mentioned that you intended to take another look at that code wrt visible channels, so you're welcome to grab 10545 if you get to it first. otherwise I'll handle the input group part. |
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| [20:09:01] | gigem: | stichnot: go ahead. i wan't planning to do anything until 0.26. |
| [20:10:52] | stichnot: | gigem: I'm not touching that code until at least 0.25-fixes... |
| [20:13:03] | gigem: | natanojl: i wasn't sure when you'd be back, so i committed on your behalf. |
| [20:13:06] | gigem: | stichnot: okay. |
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| [20:14:20] | natanojl: | gigem: Sweet |
| [20:14:58] | gigem: | thanks for spotting it. |
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| [21:25:09] | bofh_omega: | hi @all. |
| [21:26:32] | bofh_omega: | I'd like to view mythtv on a philips TV via network (upnp). Issue here is, mediatomb is able to stream the mythtv records. If I use the mythtv internal upnp server I always get "file empty or not found" message. |
| [21:27:02] | bofh_omega: | If I use the PS3 to view mythtv content over the build in upnp server everything is ok |
| [21:28:04] | stuartm: | upnp sucks, no two devices operate the same way ... |
| [21:28:05] | bofh_omega: | my question now is, where should I tweek the behaviour of the mythtv upnp server to suite the philips tv |
| [21:28:08] | stuartm: | bofh_omega: #mythtv-users |
| [21:28:22] | stuartm: | oh, ok, that's probably on-topic |
| [21:29:36] | bofh_omega: | or what information would be of interest to you ;-) |
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| [21:33:09] | bofh_omega: | I think it's just a metter of a header, protokoll version. eg. something like this. Could this be tweeked in a config/database? I didn't find any information in the wiki |
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| [22:25:39] | mrand: | bofh_omega: I'm not a myth dev, but I believe it embedded in C++ code – I'm not aware there is an easy to config database, although that is an interesting idea. |
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