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Sunday, April 1st, 2012, 00:21 UTC
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[01:30:47] danielk22: stichnot: Great catch!
[01:36:41] stichnot: thanks!
[01:41:50] stichnot: I just hope that solves all the problems of hideously slow loading of Watch Recordings
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[03:04:32] danielk22: kenni: There is a patch on the ticket to make the transitions every 30 seconds or so.
[03:05:57] danielk22: kenni: I'm not trying to fix the DVB problem, or the chunky livetv transitions, or the read buffering problems, just the exit from livetv. Are you still experiencing those with the latest code?
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[08:39:35] kenni: danielk22: Yes, every time a new program starts according to the guide, live tv stalls for about 1 minute while waiting for data after which it exits to the main menu with the error "Video frame buffering failed too many times". This is on 78948da from yesterday.
[09:03:17] kenni: danielk22: If I pause the playback for a few minutes and then resume playback, the frontend does not exit to the main menu when a new program start.
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[13:01:24] danielk22: kenni: I think you may be experiencing a different issue with similar symptoms. It would be useful if you opened a ticket with some mythfrontend "-v playback,file" logs.
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[19:24:07] MMlosh: Hi! Can mythtv use ANY kind of on-demand iptv?
[19:29:07] MMlosh: having my network loaded with unwatched streams is not my style
[19:30:06] wagnerrp: this is the development channel, try #mythtv-users
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[19:33:15] wagnerrp: MMlosh: ^^
[19:33:15] MMlosh: wagnerrp, ah, sry, forgot
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[20:33:47] gigem: have any of you read the new freenode privacy policy at http://freenode.net/privacy_change.html yet? those of you with channel op privs should definitely see item 4. i know you and the rest of us already try to do it, but this might raise the bar higher in the eyes of the government.
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[20:39:18] knightr__: gigem, that's not an April fools' joke?
[20:41:15] wagnerrp: in any case, dont we do that already?
[20:41:30] stuartm: yeah, it's an april fools, that's why it's an image and not text, so that it can't be indexed by search engines and appear in search results for years to come
[20:44:49] gigem: crap! i totally forgot about that. with it being on a weekend this year, it never crossed my mind. :)
[20:44:56] stuartm: although part 4 actually does make a great deal of sense, and happens to be relevant even now – moderators can and have been held liable for what people have been permitted to say in their forums (including liable, hate speech, inciting terrorism etc)
[20:46:08] wagnerrp: have been? got links?
[20:47:07] stuartm: I'm not google :)
[20:47:46] stuartm: but yeah, several times it's made the news, possibly not in the US, I've no idea how it would apply over there
[20:48:39] wagnerrp: yeah, ive never heard of such things over here
[20:49:13] wagnerrp: but then ive never heard of IRC over here, besides the occasional off handed remark on some crime drama about it being "what hackers use to communicate"
[20:49:33] stuartm: the basic premise is that if you moderate a forum (vs completely unmoderated) and you allow an illegal activity to occur (civil or otherwise) then you are implicitly responsible
[20:50:13] wagnerrp: so the whole 'safe harbor' thing
[20:50:27] wagnerrp: moderate none, or moderate in full, but you get in trouble for doing a poor job
[20:50:42] stuartm: basically
[20:52:33] stuartm: but it's really only applied where the 'moderator' was really complicit by their lack of action, vs just doing a poor job at moderation
[20:53:09] wagnerrp: meaning they were around, and knew of the event
[20:55:38] stuartm: right, they chose to turn a blind eye
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[20:59:57] stuartm: more recent case that comes to mind was a kid committing suicide after being bullied on a forum for teens, the board was actively moderated for many subjects but moderators ignored such behaviour, the parents sued the website owners
[21:00:42] stuartm: can't find a link for that one, but there are a few similar incidences found via google including this one in the US – http://www.newser.com/story/13887/parents-sue . . . suicide.html
[21:00:45] wagnerrp: were they threatening or just calling names?
[21:01:26] wagnerrp: aside from excessive libel laws, i didn't think "name calling" was actually illegal anywhere
[21:03:43] stuartm: wagnerrp: I don't recall, although in that case it was a civil lawsuit and so they didn't need to show a crime had occurred, just damage of some form
[21:05:08] stuartm: certain 'name calling' is illegal in the UK, e.g. when it's racial or homophobic
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