| Tuesday, February 14th, 2012, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:14] | jya: | could use alsa dmix plugin for sure, but then it's far more limited than pulse |
| [00:00:45] | Beirdo: | I have no need for yet another abstraction layer over the sound devices. |
| [00:00:46] | jya: | I'm not a fan of pulse because it doesn't work very well for us.. getting whitenoise from time to time… which I don't get why |
| [00:00:59] | jya: | but what if you are using another application other than myth? |
| [00:01:05] | Beirdo: | I can see how others could have it being useful |
| [00:01:23] | Beirdo: | but for me, my frontend box is only for MythTV |
| [00:01:28] | jya: | i have only myth running, so using alsa doesn't bother me |
| [00:01:51] | Beirdo: | and I wouldn't want things mixed in with the TV playback, personally |
| [00:02:29] | jya: | i can see the use, like getting an incoming message ring, |
| [00:03:10] | jya: | or another message that a bluray rip is complete, time to watch it etc.. |
| [00:03:26] | jya: | right now, through alsa being accessed directly, you can't (if not using analog) |
| [00:06:06] | wagnerrp: | id rather see mythmessage get improved for those purposes |
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| [00:07:00] | wagnerrp: | speaking of which, that reminds me... i need to fix broadcast address selection for that |
| [00:07:06] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:07:30] | wagnerrp: | as it was set up, it just uses Qt's idea of the broadcast address, which is always 255.255.255.255 |
| [00:07:49] | wagnerrp: | which at least on my system, i cant bind to that |
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| [00:21:08] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: suggestion of what to do for ipv6, with regards to lack of broadcast? |
| [00:22:34] | wagnerrp: | switch to multicast, perhaps? |
| [00:22:35] | Beirdo: | not that I can think of off hand |
| [00:22:42] | Beirdo: | yeah, possibly |
| [00:22:45] | wagnerrp: | something in ff02:: |
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| [00:38:12] | ** Beirdo just realized beirdo.ca was up for renewal... yesterday ** | |
| [00:38:25] | Beirdo: | paid THAT invoice, I'll tell ya |
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| [00:41:44] | mrand: | jya: would that, in turn, require ALSA 1.0.25 to use mythtv, or would you just get that extra info if you happened to have it installed? If it is required, is it widely and easily available to users for recent distributions without having to install custom third party ppa's and the like? |
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| [00:42:49] | jya: | mrand: it will be available to users using 1.0.25 and simply ignored for earlier version, or video card not supporting it (like ion type) |
| [00:43:19] | jya: | the way you access the raw ELD data is via a mixer named ELD on the current card |
| [00:43:34] | jya: | if that mixer name is there you use it, if not you dont |
| [00:43:46] | jya: | i wont even need to test for which alsa version you are running |
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| [04:02:03] | stichnot: | What would have caused this in master: |
| [04:02:04] | stichnot: | 2012-02–13 19:54:56.732888 I [2616/2616] CoreContext videooutbase.cpp:170 (Create) – VideoOutput: Allowed renderers: xv-blit,xshm,xlib,opengl,opengl-lite,vdpau |
| [04:02:06] | stichnot: | 2012-02–13 19:54:56.732932 I [2616/2616] CoreContext videooutbase.cpp:175 (Create) – VideoOutput: Allowed renderers (filt: ffmpeg): |
| [04:02:07] | stichnot: | 2012-02–13 19:54:56.732956 E [2616/2616] CoreContext videooutbase.cpp:297 (Create) – VideoOutput: Not compiled with any useable video output method. |
| [04:02:09] | stichnot: | 2012-02–13 19:54:56.732987 E [2616/2616] CoreContext mythplayer.cpp:474 (InitVideo) – Player(0): Couldn't create VideoOutput instance. Exiting.. |
| [04:02:27] | stichnot: | where previous successful playback looked like this: |
| [04:02:29] | stichnot: | 2012-02–13 19:13:42.710813 I [12857/12857] CoreContext videooutbase.cpp:171 (Create) – VideoOutput: Allowed renderers: vdpau |
| [04:02:30] | stichnot: | 2012-02–13 19:13:42.710876 I [12857/12857] CoreContext videooutbase.cpp:176 (Create) – VideoOutput: Allowed renderers (filt: vdpau): vdpau |
| [04:02:32] | stichnot: | 2012-02–13 19:13:42.717481 I [12857/12857] CoreContext videodisplayprofile.cpp:238 (VideoDisplayProfile) – VDP: Accepting: cmp(>= 0 720) dec(vdpau) cpus(1) skiploop(enabled) rend(vdpau) osd(vdpau) osdfade(enabled) deint(vdpaubasicdoublerate,vdpaubasic) filt(vdpaucolorspace=auto,vdpaubuffersize=32) |
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| [06:39:34] | stichnot: | for the record, in case anyone else gets this problem, it seemed to go away when I cleared out all the libmyth* in my lib directory and reinstalled. |
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| [09:02:24] | stuarta: | wagnerrp: there's an ipv6 address which is the equivalent of broadcast |
| [09:03:44] | stuarta: | ff02::1 |
| [09:04:10] | wagnerrp: | no there isnt |
| [09:04:18] | stuarta: | trust me there is |
| [09:04:19] | wagnerrp: | thats equivalent to 224.0.0.1 |
| [09:04:26] | wagnerrp: | more like a multicast |
| [09:04:32] | stuarta: | it uses multicast ys |
| [09:04:39] | stuarta: | but all ipv6 hosts respond to it |
| [09:04:46] | wagnerrp: | unless thats the unofficial de-facto replacement |
| [09:04:49] | stuarta: | ping6 -I eth0 ff02::1 |
| [09:04:58] | stuarta: | or the bsd equiv |
| [09:05:50] | wagnerrp: | huh, fancy that |
| [09:06:12] | stuarta: | the gotcha with it is you have to be specific about the interface |
| [09:06:29] | stuarta: | since there are routes for ff02:: on every interface |
| [09:09:22] | wagnerrp: | thanks, ill see if i can get something worked up for that tomorrow |
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| [09:09:59] | wagnerrp: | im putting together a fix for all the pulls on the MasterServerIP, to account for there now being two IPs that may not be accessible from all hosts |
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| [09:10:16] | wagnerrp: | i.e. a backend configured for ipv6, but a frontend that only does v4 |
| [09:10:32] | stuarta: | then the users network it broken |
| [09:10:38] | stuarta: | s/it/is |
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| [09:14:35] | stuarta: | what was the reasoning behind splitting the backend ip config into ipv4 and ipv6? |
| [09:15:35] | wagnerrp: | so you could restrict specifically what addresses to listen to on each |
| [09:16:44] | stuarta: | why wouldn't you have the backend listening on all the ports on both protocols? |
| [09:17:03] | wagnerrp: | s/ports/addresses/ ? |
| [09:17:20] | stuarta: | no port 6543, 6544 etc |
| [09:17:27] | stuarta: | ie. wildcard bind |
| [09:17:31] | stuarta: | all addresses |
| [09:17:54] | wagnerrp: | well first part, a wildcard doesnt completely work |
| [09:18:10] | wagnerrp: | some distros set the ipv6only sysctl |
| [09:18:25] | wagnerrp: | which means if you do a wildcard, you still need to run two servers |
| [09:18:34] | wagnerrp: | one for ipv6 and one for ipv4 |
| [09:18:38] | stuarta: | that's fair enough |
| [09:18:48] | stuarta: | but you can still wildcard v4_only, and v6 only |
| [09:18:55] | stuarta: | we already wildcard bind on v4 |
| [09:19:00] | wagnerrp: | second, IMHO is just bad practice to do wildcard binds |
| [09:19:15] | stuarta: | not really, the majority of daemons do it |
| [09:19:22] | wagnerrp: | say soemeone wanted to stuff mythtv on an internet-facing system |
| [09:19:34] | wagnerrp: | you could throw up a firewall to block all that stuff |
| [09:19:36] | stuarta: | which i do |
| [09:19:40] | stuarta: | which i do x2 |
| [09:19:43] | wagnerrp: | or, you could just not listen where you dont want |
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| [14:35:43] | danielk221: | Beirdo: what is the trac passwd crypt format? |
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| [14:46:39] | danielk221: | Beirdo: nm looks like it is md5 |
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| [15:22:43] | danielk221: | Beirdo: I don't seem to have admin privileges for github. Can you fix? |
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| [15:24:23] | dblain: | I'm getting an error in libmythtv\subtitlescreen.cpp. redefinition of chunk (line 872) (I'm using vs2010... guess gcc isn't as picky) |
| [15:25:09] | dblain: | chunk is defined as an int in the for loop then re-defined as a FormattedTextChunk within the loop |
| [15:25:44] | dblain: | Change made by Jim Stichnoth. |
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| [15:47:49] | Captain_Murdoch: | danielk22, you should have admin privs on github now. |
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| [15:54:11] | danielk22: | great, thanks |
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| [16:17:47] | danielk22: | stuartm: The recordings are disappearing for me now. |
| [16:18:10] | stuartm: | strange |
| [16:18:35] | stuarta: | uhoh |
| [16:21:16] | danielk22: | The recordings I delete are disappearing for me now.. it's a good thing |
| [16:22:50] | danielk22: | Well assuming it isn't a Heisenbug. |
| [16:34:44] | stuartm: | danielk22: yeah, I'm not going to dwell on it if it's now working |
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| [16:38:22] | danielk22: | stichnot: I've assigned #10333 to you. :) |
| [16:38:29] | stuartm: | ouch, didn't expect that, when I ran git push while operating on master it also pushed the commit I'd made to the 0.24-fixes branch |
| [16:38:48] | stuartm: | the commit I was busy fixing on master because it wasn't quite right |
| [16:39:12] | danielk22: | stuartm: yeah, one of the reasons I use separate checkouts for each branch.. |
| [16:40:42] | stuarta: | i think you can limit the push to the branch with some extra fu |
| [16:41:03] | davide: | ditto for me, but i still use git-new-workdir too. |
| [16:41:16] | davide: | taylorr: have you had a chance to look at the current position and duration issues yet? if not, i'm going to try later in the week. anyway, i've got a new one for you. |
| [16:41:21] | davide: | i was watching a sporting event with a 1 hour end-late. when the actual duration hit the regularly scheduled end time, the displayed position matched the duration. for example, if i was 1:30:00 into a 3:30:00 recording that normally would have ended at 2:30:00, the osd display changed to 2:30:00 of 2:30:00. |
| [16:41:26] | davide: | this one is apparently only a display issue since i can exit and re-enter playback and it resumes at the correct point. unlike the 0:01 of 0:01 problem, this one isn't corrected by exiting and re-entering playback. |
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| [16:52:06] | seeker: | stuartm: I asked this yesterday but didn't see a response; do you have any ideas about how to implement animation for button lists? I'm guessing it is just an emit in the "changed selected" function, but I can't think of any obvious ways of animating the buttonlistitems in a sensible way. Non-centred lists should be ok, as it would be a zoom out then a zoom in, but on lists which stay centred you probably want to move the item to the location of the nex |
| [16:52:06] | seeker: | item in the list |
| [16:52:35] | seeker: | Which I don't know is even possible ATM? |
| [16:55:26] | stuartm: | seeker: I don't have any concrete idea, I don't even want to think about it until 0.25 is out the door because I've too many other things to do |
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| [16:55:38] | seeker: | Ok |
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| [17:23:36] | taylorr: | davide: I'm not sure if I'm allowed to commit my changes for this – technically it's a bug fix though |
| [17:37:23] | danielk22: | taylorr: would you like me to review it? |
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| [18:02:29] | stichnot: | danielk22: ok, wish me luck :) |
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| [18:05:03] | taylorr: | danielk22: sure, but I don't have time right now which is why it hasn't been committed yet – almost done with a big project at work |
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| [18:10:23] | davide: | taylorr: the two problems identified so far are regressions, so they need to be fixed somehow. how big that fix can be is debatable, however. |
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| [18:15:39] | stichnot: | dblain: yuck, I'll fix that chunk variable name problem. |
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| [18:28:35] | dblain: | stichnot: thanks. |
| [18:29:17] | stuartm: | stuarta: so as usual with git, the behaviour you're most likely to want is the one which requires extra arguments :/ I'm not even sure how it would stop someone accidentally pushing a commit if they've forgotten they'd made changes on that branch |
| [18:29:53] | stuartm: | and it's counter-intuitive when git pull won't pull on all branches but git push pushes all branches |
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| [18:33:44] | skd5aner: | I can understand pull from 1 branch and push to all, but yea – not necessarily what's desired here |
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| [19:08:14] | dekarl: | stuartm: your suggested patch works, too. (talking about this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/842074/ ) |
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| [19:11:05] | dblain: | stichnot: would you mind if I (or you) change the following function implementation & prototype in subtitlescreen.cpp from: void SubtitleScreen::SetFontSizes(int small, int medium, int large) to void SubtitleScreen::SetFontSizes(int nSmall, int nMedium, int nLarge)? |
| [19:11:57] | dblain: | Microsoft in its infinite wisdom defined "small" as char, and I can't find a easy way to undefine it without modifying the code. |
| [19:12:24] | stichnot: | dblain: go ahead and make the change. |
| [19:12:27] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:12:30] | dblain: | Thanks |
| [19:12:32] | Beirdo: | go mickeysoft |
| [19:13:31] | stichnot: | dblain: also, feel free to make the other "chunk" change — just get rid of the int version entirely. |
| [19:14:27] | stuartm: | dekarl: ok, I'll commit that as the fix |
| [19:14:28] | dblain: | will do. thanks |
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| [19:18:31] | dblain: | stichnot: I don't have a means to test the subtitlescreen code I'd be changing, so I'd like your feed back on the change I'll be making. (change the for loop to "while (text != QString::null)" |
| [19:18:56] | stichnot: | that's exactly what I meant to do |
| [19:19:09] | dblain: | great. |
| [19:19:13] | stichnot: | (though I haven't tested it yet, but I will tonight) |
| [19:22:48] | sphery: | stuartm: git config --local --add push.default tracking |
| [19:23:32] | sphery: | Defines the action git push should take if no refspec is given on the command line... (changes from default of "matching" which says to push all matching branches to "tracking" which says to only push the current branch to its upstream branch) |
| [19:24:01] | ** kenni just entered that command 20 minutes ago when he configured git on his machine :) ** | |
| [19:24:03] | Beirdo: | text != QString::null?! |
| [19:24:09] | stuartm: | sphery: thanks |
| [19:24:10] | Beirdo: | that doesn't sound right to me |
| [19:24:26] | stuartm: | Beirdo: !text.isNull() |
| [19:24:33] | Beirdo: | certainly not a construct I've seen elsewhere in the code |
| [19:24:56] | Beirdo: | I thought we were choosing to use isEmpty() and get rid of isNull()? |
| [19:24:58] | stuartm: | but it really depends on the circumstances, in many places we in fact want "!text.isEmpty()" instead ... |
| [19:25:04] | sphery: | shouldn't we be using isEmpty()... yeah |
| [19:25:21] | dblain: | I left the construct alone and just removed the unused int chunk... I can clean it up if everyone wants. I just can't test it. |
| [19:26:42] | stuartm: | Beirdo: in a handful of places we depend on the difference between a null string and an empty string, especially where that string is being inserted or read from the db, the QT mysql drivers equate a NULL value from a text column as QString::null instead of an empty string and vice versa |
| [19:28:01] | stuartm: | using isNull() and isEmpty() is always preferable to a comparison because it's more efficient (and from a code perspective tidier) |
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| [20:04:46] | Beirdo: | aye :0 (sorry, I was off fighting fires here at work) |
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| [20:23:52] | taylorr: | j-rod: is it typical to just be ignored on the linux-media mailing list for months? the patch I'm providing for the HD-PVR is required for new units so it'd would have been nice to get it into the kernel ASAP. Is it possible for you to commit? |
| [20:24:20] | taylorr: | they are way worse than FFMPEG these days |
| [20:28:18] | dekarl: | sphery: anything I can help with #10023? |
| [20:28:19] | j-rod: | taylorr: gah. |
| [20:29:42] | j-rod: | taylorr: I've been largely ignoring linux-media myself for a bit, too busy with other things... |
| [20:29:56] | j-rod: | seems mauro doesn't have enough time to look at it either though |
| [20:30:39] | j-rod: | I can prod him about it though, make sure it gets into the queue for v3.4 at least |
| [20:31:37] | taylorr: | I'd appreciate it – if it helps I can ping it again for the third time |
| [20:33:18] | j-rod: | taylorr: this is the 'update picture controls' one? |
| [20:33:43] | Beirdo: | why is the kernel going 3.0 -> 3.1 -> 3.2 -> 3.3 -> 3.4 so bloody fast? |
| [20:34:12] | j-rod: | don't think its going any faster than normal |
| [20:34:18] | Beirdo: | umm |
| [20:34:27] | Beirdo: | 2.4 -> 2.6 took half a decade |
| [20:34:32] | Beirdo: | what are you on? :) |
| [20:34:36] | j-rod: | oh. that. |
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| [20:38:48] | taylorr: | j-rod: yes |
| [20:40:49] | j-rod: | posted back in november. ugh. |
| [20:41:29] | ** j-rod needs to actually start paying attention again ** | |
| [20:43:56] | j-rod: | acked |
| [20:44:49] | j-rod: | have also pinged mauro to rush it along |
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| [20:52:50] | davide: | j-rod: can you also prod mauro about -stable. there's been 3 -stable releases and no sign of the imon fix. |
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| [20:53:17] | j-rod: | that one is in his v3.4 branch as of this morning |
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| [20:53:40] | j-rod: | dunno if its eligible to hit stable until its in linus' tree though |
| [20:54:18] | j-rod: | I could ask him to push it as a late arrival necessary regression fix for v3.3 though, I suppose |
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| [20:54:55] | davide: | it is a regression and linus really hates regressions. |
| [20:55:18] | j-rod: | nod |
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| [21:14:34] | j-rod: | taylorr: bah. looks like patchwork somehow ate your v3... |
| [21:14:42] | j-rod: | at least, I'm not currently able to find it there |
| [21:14:55] | j-rod: | http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/8183/ |
| [21:15:07] | j-rod: | is v2, with a comment referencing v3 being attached |
| [21:15:47] | j-rod: | though my ack is showing up on v2. sigh. |
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| [21:47:07] | stuartm: | Beirdo: Linus changed the versioning schema (again), the jump to 3.x was the first under that new system, felt that the old system with a never changing major, rarely changing minor and minor-minor version numbers heading eventually towards three digits was just silly |
| [21:48:32] | taylorr: | j-rod: anything I need to do? |
| [21:49:32] | j-rod: | taylorr: I don't think so. mauro asked me to send him mail pointing to that and the imon fix so he would remember to take care of them first thing tomorrow, so I'll be doing that shortly. |
| [21:49:44] | j-rod: | I'll explain what's going on with v2 vs. v3 there |
| [21:50:07] | j-rod: | or rather, point it out. I dunno why v3 is MIA as a patch. |
| [21:50:08] | MythBuild: | build #670 of master-vista-mingw-32bit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/670 |
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| [21:54:31] | taylorr: | j-rod: IIRC, v3 just added the sign-on sig at the bottom |
| [21:54:52] | j-rod: | yeah |
| [21:55:06] | j-rod: | my suggestion was going to be for him to just use v2 and insert the sob |
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| [22:07:52] | stichnot: | Beirdo: git grep -i '[!=]= qstring::null' |
| [22:08:28] | stichnot: | I must have copied mine from one of those |
| [22:08:47] | taylorr: | j-rod: thanks – looks like it's getting some attention now :) |
| [22:09:55] | stichnot: | but I'm happy to change my code to use isNull() |
| [22:11:48] | j-rod: | taylorr: np. hopefully, its all taken care of first thing tomorrow, which would be ~5am here, since brazil is still 3hr ahead of us east coast time right now... |
| [22:14:00] | sphery: | stichnot: haven't looked at the code, but isEmpty() is preferred over isNull() (and is true for empty or null), where possible |
| [22:15:26] | sphery: | dekarl: no, I just have to get time to look at it--was waiting 'til after freeze |
| [22:20:10] | stichnot: | sphery: I think it will be reasonable to use empty instead of null strings in that part, but presumably not quite yet (since it's not a bug fix) |
| [22:23:12] | sphery: | what I'm saying is that if there's no distinction between empty strings or null strings, the isEmpty() comparison should be used |
| [22:23:44] | sphery: | if that code actually does use empty and null strings to mean 2 different things, though, the code would need to be changed later |
| [22:27:09] | stichnot: | I think I was originally concerned that an empty string would need processing, but that's probably not actually true. |
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| [22:43:27] | taylorr: | j-rod: just hoping the patch can make it's way into the 3.2 kernel so mythbuntu LTS will have it |
| [22:48:09] | superm1: | if it doesn't make 3.2, could still try to make a case to include it potentially |
| [22:48:39] | superm1: | especially if it is a regression as i thought i saw mentioned somewhere up above in bt |
| [22:49:02] | taylorr: | true, crossing fingers that I don't have to go fight another battle ;) |
| [22:49:25] | superm1: | yeah they're never fun :) |
| [22:58:27] | stuartm: | sphery: as I learnt recently, that's not entirely true, there is one crucial difference between a null string and an empty string, they are interpreted differently by the qt mysql driver – a null string inserts NULL, an empty string inserts "" – important enough distinction when the column is declared NOT NULL |
| [23:00:47] | stuartm: | that difference only comes into play where we're passing that string to bindValue() – less so when assigning a value from the DB as we don't place any special significance on null/empty for values in the DB |
| [23:02:21] | j-rod: | it should make 3.2-stable no problem |
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| [23:06:21] | dekarl: | sphery: splendid :) |
| [23:22:29] | j-rod: | the question is more whether it gets into 3.3 and 3.2-stable or 3.4, then 3.3-stable and 3.2-stable. |
| [23:22:54] | j-rod: | but yeah, I suggested to mauro they should both go to 3.3 asap |
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| [23:32:00] | jya: | superm1: do you know which version of ALSA will go into ubuntu LTS ? |
| [23:33:12] | superm1: | jya: i believe 1.0.25 is the plan |
| [23:33:24] | superm1: | but that might change because of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec . . . -lts-updates |
| [23:33:31] | superm1: | which means that newer ALSA might be backported at newer time |
| [23:33:48] | jya: | I hope it won't be the stock 1.0.25 as release officially |
| [23:34:01] | superm1: | some major problems with 1.0.25? |
| [23:34:02] | jya: | it just doesn't work with nvidia card as it is |
| [23:34:24] | jya: | if no audio working in alsa means major, then yes.. |
| [23:34:26] | superm1: | ah i see |
| [23:34:53] | jya: | it is fixes in the current git master |
| [23:35:16] | sphery: | stuartm: yes, when writing values to the database, we need to right the desired value (empty string or NULL), but when comparing values, we should use isEmpty() if at all possible since Qt functions don't distinguish between null and empty strings, so our doing so can create unusual/hard to find bugs |
| [23:35:23] | sphery: | need to write |
| [23:35:53] | superm1: | jya: ah well good it's fixed in master. just uploaded master to ubuntu precise |
| [23:35:58] | jya: | the issue is with aligned page, previously all hardware page were 128 bytes aligned. as the HDA spec states that it isn't required, Intel pushed a fix to make it only 4 bytes aligned… With nvidia card, that reports itself as a HDA device, it's completely broken |
| [23:36:14] | superm1: | i'll double check if plan is 1.0.25 though still. feature freeze for ubuntu is like 2 days away and they're still on 1.0.24 so maybe that won't be happening |
| [23:37:11] | jya: | superm1: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/als . . . /049061.html |
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| [23:38:47] | stuartm: | sphery: my point was simply that if we're doing the isNull() check to prevent a null value being written to the db then it should be left as is e.g. if (string.isNull()) string = ""; |
| [23:39:08] | superm1: | jya: oh did you mean that the fix was on master for alsa? |
| [23:39:24] | superm1: | if it ends up that 1.0.25 is what lands in precise we might just need to pull that patch in then |
| [23:39:44] | superm1: | i've pinged the alsa maintainer to double check though if 1.0.25 is still slated to happen |
| [23:40:57] | jya: | superm1: when I wrote on the mailing list about the issue with nvidia card, the answer was that it was a known issue and fixed in master |
| [23:41:04] | superm1: | ah i see |
| [23:41:41] | jya: | but it's in the 1.0.25 drivers found on alsa front page |
| [23:42:04] | jya: | a bit of a pity, cause I had only ever build alsa as per the archive on their front page |
| [23:42:36] | superm1: | how often do they release? if it's prevalent enough would that maybe warrant a new release to fix it? |
| [23:42:54] | jya: | superm1: oh, don't use the patch I linked to before, it's ugly as… as simply disable small page always…. there are better ways to fix it |
| [23:42:59] | jya: | about once a year |
| [23:43:05] | superm1: | yikes, that's too bad then |
| [23:43:18] | jya: | 1.0.24 release was january 2011 |
| [23:43:24] | jya: | and 1.0.25 was a few weeks ago |
| [23:43:40] | ** Seeker` wonders what the issue is with nvidia cards ** | |
| [23:44:14] | jya: | yeah..http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page about once a year |
| [23:44:44] | jya: | i sure hope they will fix this and release a 1.0.25.1 at least |
| [23:45:07] | jya: | *all* my audio cards on my frontend are nvidia card, 1.0.25 broke audio on all of them |
| [23:45:48] | Seeker`: | jya: sound doesn't work at all on alsa 1.0.25 for nvidia cards? eep |
| [23:45:49] | ** jya time for a cappuccino ** | |
| [23:46:14] | jya: | Seeker`: it's a bit more complicated than that… the issue is for certain size of audio buffer, it doesn't work |
| [23:46:26] | jya: | the default is 64kB and that works fine for stereo |
| [23:46:33] | Seeker`: | is that a case that is hit often by mythtv? |
| [23:46:41] | jya: | ubuntu / debian sets the alsa buffer to 4MB by default |
| [23:46:51] | jya: | with 4MB, it never works |
| [23:47:07] | jya: | with 16 bits audio it doesn't work, with 32 bits audio it works |
| [23:47:24] | Seeker`: | :/ |
| [23:47:29] | jya: | myth will use 32 bits audio whenever processing is to be done…. so some people may never see it |
| [23:47:43] | jya: | but if you do AC3/ DTS bitstreaming, they will see it all the time |
| [23:47:51] | jya: | cause that's 16 bits |
| [23:48:07] | ** Seeker` does mainly passthrough to AV receiver. Makes a note not to upgrade to alsa 1.0.25 ** | |
| [23:49:52] | jya: | mythtv requests 500ms of buffer, that doesn't work |
| [23:49:55] | jya: | mplayer is the same |
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| [23:50:38] | jya: | http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/als . . . /049068.html |
| [23:51:03] | jya: | originally I thought it was only passthrough that was broken... |
| [23:52:57] | jya: | superm1: more often than not, when I stop mythtv-backend server in 0.25master, it won't actually stop mythbackend |
| [23:53:42] | superm1: | jya: tgm4883 was mentioning that too. i'm planning on upgrading soon and i'l ltry to help investigate |
| [23:54:37] | ** Seeker` has the same problem ** | |
| [23:55:27] | jya: | to stop it I using sudo service mythtv-backend stop |
| [23:55:32] | superm1: | which release are yall on? wonder if it's a common thing to a particular upstart version |
| [23:55:40] | jya: | oh, the other issue I've noticed |
| [23:55:56] | jya: | it doesn't log anything in /var/logs/mythtv/mythbackend.log anymore |
| [23:56:05] | jya: | testing repo, nightly build |
| [23:56:08] | jya: | upgraded last night |
| [23:56:28] | superm1: | yeah i think need to double check what's up with the new syslog stuff |
| [23:56:33] | superm1: | maybe one of the rules isn't working right |
| [23:56:48] | jya: | i only upgraded myth |
| [23:56:53] | jya: | didn't even reboot the machine |
| [23:56:58] | superm1: | yeah myth has rsyslog support now |
| [23:57:05] | superm1: | but it seems that there might be a permissions problem |
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