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| [00:39:09] | Beirdo: | danielk22: you will need to revert that last one (or rework), as it borked the windows build. |
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| [00:44:04] | wagnerrp: | specifically... this one... https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/94f10 . . . owrapper.cpp |
| [00:44:19] | wagnerrp: | windows doesnt have the re-entrant form of readdir |
| [00:44:31] | Beirdo: | yeah, that one :) |
| [00:44:51] | Beirdo: | which is why it was left that way previously |
| [00:45:23] | Beirdo: | now, we can create a readdir_r in the compat stuff |
| [00:45:34] | Beirdo: | but one way or the other, it needs fixing |
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| [00:47:46] | danielk22: | Beirdo: Sure. May need to do it in a few hours though. |
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| [00:51:32] | Beirdo: | No problemo :) |
| [00:51:57] | Beirdo: | I don't think too many people are horribly rushed to get the windows build compiled, they can wait a bit :) |
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| [08:56:14] | kormoc: | Oof, that's not a good email to the dev list |
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| [09:29:12] | kenni: | :( That sucks.. |
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| [10:49:00] | stuartm: | oh ffs |
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| [12:39:51] | knightr: | that's quite unfortunate... :( :( |
| [12:44:31] | ** CaCtus491 wonders if he is getting all of the dev list emails. ** | |
| [12:44:47] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [12:44:50] | CaCtus491: | Are you refering to something in the thread about the standby mode stuff? |
| [12:44:59] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [12:48:09] | CaCtus491: | ok, so are you saying that there is another dev list that isn't shown at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ ? |
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| [12:48:41] | wagnerrp: | yep |
| [12:48:51] | CaCtus491: | ahh, a non-public one? :) |
| [12:49:24] | wagnerrp: | internal planning and such |
| [12:51:03] | CaCtus491: | k, thanks for the info – I wondered why the dev list became much quieter (some time ago now) – I guess this explains it. |
| [12:51:29] | wagnerrp: | the private list has been around for as long as i know |
| [12:51:41] | wagnerrp: | and is typically fairly quiet on its own |
| [12:58:26] | CaCtus491: | fair enough. Does a fair amount of the discussion on dev happen on IRC then? I'm keen to keep an eye on the new JSON API stuff – I think it's about time I put some time into myth dev, in a month or so I'll have been using Myth for 9 years :) |
| [12:58:54] | wagnerrp: | most dev discussion is split between this and the -users channel |
| [13:02:42] | wagnerrp: | if youre interested in getting into the services api, one of the mythbuntu guys is looking for someone to add methods for creating recording rules |
| [13:03:07] | wagnerrp: | (unless you were talking about the other side of it) |
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| [13:06:18] | CaCtus491: | mmmm, in particular I'd like to work most on a decent Android interface – MythDroid looks fairly promising, but could definately do with conversion the the service api – another freenode channel I've started to hang out in. |
| [13:07:37] | wagnerrp: | mythdroid is the one that has its own server daemon it connects to for assorted communication? |
| [13:09:26] | CaCtus491: | seems that over the years work has taken me from hardware / firmware development in C, over to C# briefly before heading heavily into javascript (ExtJS / Sencha stuff), and a little Java, so client side use of the services api makes the most sense for my abilities. Haven't really done much C++ since uni days. |
| [13:10:00] | CaCtus491: | yep, would be nice to use functionality in the services api to do away with (most of) the server daemon part (mdd) |
| [13:10:19] | wagnerrp: | theres no reason why it couldnt be done away with completely |
| [13:11:01] | CaCtus491: | that is my thought too, but I haven't looked into it enough, an wasn't sure if they were using it to help with streaming to the Android device |
| [13:11:17] | wagnerrp: | wouldnt matter if they were |
| [13:11:43] | wagnerrp: | a segmented streaming transcoder has been added into the services api |
| [13:12:55] | CaCtus491: | excellent, I wasn't aware, only just started looking into it in the last couple of days. |
| [13:14:37] | CaCtus491: | truth be told, I was having a last look around at what was happening as I was starting to consider looking at options other than myth due to what seemed like not much happening for a while (not that I can complain due to a lack of contribution), but when I saw the services api, it renewed my interest – I think this is one of the most exciting developments in myth in the last few years. |
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| [13:15:24] | wagnerrp: | look for a handful of 'Robert McNamara's videos on Vimeo |
| [13:15:42] | wagnerrp: | hes writing an iPad app using the services API, that sounds in line with what youre planning |
| [13:16:45] | CaCtus491: | One thing that I wasn't such a fan of was the way the frontend is structured (bunch of disparate plugins), but now with the new service api, it seems feasble for even a new frontend to be implemented whilst still being able to maintain the execellent funcitonality available in the backend, etc. |
| [13:17:14] | CaCtus491: | yeah, I saw those videos, quite impressive. |
| [13:18:14] | wagnerrp: | thats actually a source of bit of contention |
| [13:19:04] | wagnerrp: | one side wants to move everything into core, since a proper HTPC app should just come with all of those features currently in plugins (already happened with mythvideo) |
| [13:19:58] | wagnerrp: | the other side wants to make everything more modular, including modularizing the backend, and expanding the interface to add more connectivity between plugins |
| [13:20:01] | CaCtus491: | An interface using Sencha Touch (Extensive JS library), would be interesting to work on – I'm very impressed with the application like feel it gives (we've implemented a fancy iPad POS system based on it in my day job), would give iPad + Android capability, but I don't think it is worth starting 'yet another interface' when MythDroid + Robert's work look like they'll cover Android an iPad compatibility well. |
| [13:20:23] | wagnerrp: | although those two goals are not mutually exclusive... |
| [13:24:31] | CaCtus491: | I always had a vision of a frontend where the UI would be a nice smooth experience and the interaction of the UI components would be seamless, ie, all rendered with opengl, with even videos being rendered on to surfaces – ie, bringing up a recording browers whilst watching something would result in the video smoothly zooming to a fraction of the screen, or mythgallery and mythmusic working seamlessly together. |
| [13:24:48] | CaCtus491: | The new mythui stuff seemed to head in the right direction, but never really got there |
| [13:25:12] | CaCtus491: | I always had the impression it was because of the hard distinction between the main app and plugins |
| [13:27:08] | CaCtus491: | Is Issac still involved at all? I haven't seen anything from him for ages |
| [13:27:28] | wagnerrp: | hes still around, but not really involved |
| [13:27:30] | wagnerrp: | !seen chutt |
| [13:27:30] | MythLogBot: | chutt was last seen 4 days 9 hours 57 minutes 2 seconds ago |
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| [13:31:08] | Snow-Man: | xris: hey.. around? |
| [13:31:47] | CaCtus491: | ok, well, thanks for the chat. 12:30am here now – time to sleep. Will keep the non-dev related stuff in -users next time :) |
| [13:32:37] | wagnerrp: | aussie? |
| [13:33:51] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: that's odd, I could have sworn I saw Chutt in the last couple of days |
| [13:34:04] | wagnerrp: | !seen chutt_ |
| [13:34:04] | MythLogBot: | chutt_ was last seen 219 days 9 hours 6 minutes 3 seconds ago |
| [13:34:17] | wagnerrp: | !seen chutt- |
| [13:34:17] | MythLogBot: | chutt- has not been seen here |
| [13:34:50] | stuartm: | I'm probably remembering incorrectly, or it was in -users or something |
| [13:34:55] | CaCtus491: | wagnerrp: yep |
| [13:35:08] | CaCtus491: | Sydney, AU |
| [13:35:29] | stuartm: | CaCtus491: it's still heading in that direction, but much more slowly than before |
| [13:35:43] | stuartm: | and even slower now :( |
| [13:36:05] | CaCtus491: | stuartm: I'm assuming because of this mysterious post on the secret list :) |
| [13:36:58] | CaCtus491: | anyways... must... sleep... |
| [13:37:21] | wagnerrp: | well its not all that mysterious for anyone paying attention |
| [13:37:36] | wagnerrp: | ... well see what happens in the next few days |
| [13:38:24] | CaCtus491: | only thing I remeber was a post about someone not being happy with 'changing of the guard', can't remember who, but I remember the phrase. I can only assume that someone has decided to no longer be involved |
| [13:39:30] | CaCtus491: | anyway, it doesn't matter. What will be will be. Now I'm really gone – promise :) |
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| [13:59:15] | tgm4883: | CaCtus491, an android interface? You may want to talk with rhpot1991 |
| [13:59:58] | wagnerrp: | i think youre going to be waiting a while for him to notice that |
| [14:00:18] | tgm4883: | ah, I just saw the mythbuntu mention awhile back |
| [14:01:05] | wagnerrp: | yeah, he was looking to get involved with the services api |
| [14:01:19] | wagnerrp: | figured i might as well try to urge him into what you wanted added... :) |
| [14:04:52] | Seeker`: | o/ |
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| [14:16:31] | stuartm: | jpabq: do you mind if I come back to you on that buttonlist issue tomorrow? |
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| [14:30:03] | rhpot1991: | wagnerrp: I was interested in something similar to how HLS encoding happens via the service api, but a single file that can be downloaded for offline viewing on a mobile device. |
| [14:30:21] | rhpot1991: | I could then replace some user job stuff that uses ffmpeg |
| [14:30:55] | wagnerrp: | rhpot1991: that interface can do both modes |
| [14:31:00] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt have to be segmented |
| [14:31:42] | seeker: | HLS? |
| [14:33:12] | wagnerrp: | HTTP Live Streaming |
| [14:33:46] | rhpot1991: | wagnerrp: iamlindoro told me otherwise |
| [14:35:40] | rhpot1991: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Content_Service#AddLiveStream doesn't have any way to specify one huge segment either |
| [14:37:17] | wagnerrp: | nMaxSegments=1? |
| [14:39:00] | wagnerrp: | no, segments are still 10 seconds long, theres just only one of them |
| [14:39:36] | rhpot1991: | ya that wont help much |
| [14:51:02] | jpabq: | stuartm, I have no intention on committing the "fix" until Sunday. It is a trivial change, but I want to give people a chance to voice their opinion. |
| [14:57:54] | seeker: | What fix is that? |
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| [16:37:54] | danielk22: | MythBuild: force build cppcheck-master now |
| [16:37:55] | MythBuild: | build forced [ETA 8m58s] |
| [16:37:55] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
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| [16:47:31] | MythBuild: | Hey! build cppcheck-master #572 is complete: Success [build successful] |
| [16:47:31] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/cppc . . . r/builds/572 |
| [16:48:17] | MythBuild: | build #572 of master-vista-mingw-32bit is complete: Exception [exception git] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/572 blamelist: Daniel Kristjansson <danielk@cuymedia.net > |
| [16:56:34] | wagnerrp: | MythBuild: force build master-vista-mingw-32bit now |
| [16:56:35] | MythBuild: | build forced [ETA 1h24m50s] |
| [16:56:35] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
| [16:57:06] | stuarta: | poor thing |
| [16:57:36] | wagnerrp: | nah, it died after a minute in the middle of pulling an update |
| [16:57:41] | wagnerrp: | never even got to compiling |
| [16:57:48] | wagnerrp: | "exception git" |
| [16:57:55] | stuarta: | yeah, i saw that |
| [16:59:16] | stuarta: | haha "Failure: exceptions.WindowsError" |
| [16:59:34] | stuarta: | ie. it just crapped out for no reason |
| [17:00:54] | seeker: | stuarta: But it clearly says to blame danielk22 for it :P |
| [17:01:23] | stuarta: | it's normally wagnerrp or stuartm who gets the blame on these occasions :) |
| [17:02:53] | stuarta: | actually it's correct |
| [17:02:53] | seeker: | They do have a fair number of commits between them :) |
| [17:03:04] | stuarta: | the last 4 builds failed on windows |
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| [17:03:20] | stuarta: | and it looks like daniel was the person to touch the code there last |
| [17:04:14] | wagnerrp: | he pushed what is supposed to fix that |
| [17:04:27] | ** stuarta checks ** | |
| [17:05:08] | danielk22: | readdir_r isn't supported on MinGW.. was trying to fix that this morning. |
| [17:05:25] | wagnerrp: | although that fix should have been in build 571 which failed |
| [17:06:41] | wagnerrp: | yeah, it doesnt know what NAME_MAX is |
| [17:07:09] | wagnerrp: | seems none of those four additional includes defined it |
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| [17:21:49] | MythBuild: | Hey! build master-vista-mingw-32bit #573 is complete: Failure [failed compile] |
| [17:21:49] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/573 |
| [17:33:20] | wagnerrp: | lousy semicolons... |
| [17:34:06] | seeker: | They're almost as bad as brackets |
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| [17:48:22] | seeker: | I wish I were better at doing theming |
| [17:51:45] | seeker: | I find it almost impossible to get from "generally looks right" to "actually looks right" |
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| [18:37:57] | stuarta: | looks like it's FILENAME_MAX from stdio.h |
| [18:38:05] | stuarta: | not NAME_MAX |
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| [18:43:25] | danielk22: | stuarta: Thx, made the change. Hopefully this works... |
| [18:43:39] | stuarta: | google is my friend :) |
| [18:44:12] | seeker: | Google doesn't like me :( |
| [18:45:19] | danielk22: | I think stdio is already included, but don't really know if _MSC_VER is defined or not.. |
| [18:45:33] | stuarta: | danielk22: isn't your check for FILENAME_MAX the wrong way around? |
| [18:45:54] | stuarta: | why is it !defined(FILENAME_MAX) |
| [18:47:42] | stuarta: | the other option may be have been to leave windows using the plain readdir call |
| [18:47:58] | stuarta: | aren't windows calls all threadsafe anyway? |
| [18:48:15] | stuarta: | hence there's no _r variant of many functions |
| [18:50:49] | danielk22: | yep, and yep |
| [18:52:03] | danielk22: | Windows uses thread local storage for those functions. |
| [18:53:23] | danielk22: | On Linux most of those functions are thread-safe too. But they aren't required to be by POSIX and many of them are not safe on FreeBSD systems like the ones Apple sells under the OSX brand name. |
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| [19:48:01] | stuarta: | getting closer :) |
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| [19:52:58] | xris: | Snow-Man: back now. |
| [19:53:12] | Snow-Man: | there you are! |
| [19:54:01] | Snow-Man: | xris: it would seem that I don't have an account on alcor anymore.. :D |
| [19:54:20] | Snow-Man: | xris: that's actually not really what I need tho.. I just need to test a cross-country sftp transfer |
| [19:54:41] | xris: | alcor got re-imaged. it's the same account setup as the temporary "new.mythtv.org" |
| [19:54:52] | stuarta: | wow, long time no see |
| [19:55:27] | danielk22: | Snow-Man== ? |
| [19:56:08] | ** stuarta hands danielk22 /whois ** | |
| [19:56:09] | Snow-Man: | xris: so, what I'm really asking is if I can either have an account or get you to run a real quick file transfer test.. |
| [19:56:25] | Snow-Man: | I just need to prove that it's possible to get >300Kb/s in a cross-country sftp transfer using openssh |
| [19:56:28] | xris: | yeah. PM me an account name and ssh pubkey |
| [19:56:35] | Snow-Man: | k, thanks |
| [19:57:06] | xris: | it's not like I have anything else to do. just got laid off this morning (knew it was coming, hopefully have a backup) |
| [19:57:44] | Snow-Man: | ouch... |
| [19:57:47] | Snow-Man: | :( sorry to hear that.. |
| [19:57:52] | xris: | hmm, wtf. I can't log in either |
| [19:57:55] | Snow-Man: | let's see if I can actually PM this big thing.. |
| [19:58:11] | Snow-Man: | lemme know if that worked. :) |
| [19:58:42] | xris: | Beirdo, stuarta, others.. can you guys log in? |
| [19:59:11] | xris: | ah, I can ssh in as root. my homedir somehow got chown'd to root |
| [19:59:16] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
| [19:59:38] | Snow-Man: | hah, gotta love that |
| [19:59:45] | Beirdo: | yeah, I can login |
| [19:59:59] | wagnerrp: | your home directory looks like its owned by you |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | oh geesch. looks like my last rsync from the new box replaced my homedir with /opt |
| [20:00:02] | xris: | wonder how that happened |
| [20:00:06] | xris: | wagnerrp: I just fixed it. |
| [20:00:15] | xris: | good thing I left root ssh login enabled while I was transferring files.. :) |
| [20:00:19] | wagnerrp: | oh, the passwd file was messed up |
| [20:00:21] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [20:00:51] | Beirdo: | Now I get to call a coworker and shadow a deploy... over lunch. pfft |
| [20:03:31] | xris: | Snow-Man: moment while I restore my homedir. :) |
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| [20:04:13] | Tobias_Kaminsky is now known as Finswimmer | |
| [20:06:17] | Finswimmer: | Hello. I want to try helping and developing mythtv. I want to start with the function to add more than one .xml file at once. According to this http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Feature_Wishlist_%28Plugin_Addons%29 it is a feature request, which I myself would use. So I think I will start with this. |
| [20:06:54] | wagnerrp: | more than one xml file... for what? |
| [20:07:05] | wagnerrp: | thats a big clumsy page |
| [20:07:24] | Seeker`: | mythnews at a guess |
| [20:07:26] | Finswimmer: | wagnerrp: Sorry. It is to add a mytharchive. |
| [20:07:38] | Seeker`: | guessed wrong :( |
| [20:07:40] | Finswimmer: | The ability to import more than one .xml file in mytharchive. You can export as many as you want, it would be awesome if you could import them the same way. |
| [20:09:36] | Finswimmer: | Now I am thinking about what would be the best way to do this in GUI: 1) just select a directory and mythTV will recursively scan all sub-dirs and import all matching archives. 2) Open one directory, show all xml files (as it is now) and tick all those you want. This has the drawback that one cannot import xml files across directories. |
| [20:10:27] | wagnerrp: | will mytharchive actually allow you to "archive" to anything other than a DVD? |
| [20:10:54] | wagnerrp: | considering a single layer DVD might hold 2–3 half-hour shows, i just dont see the point |
| [20:12:32] | Finswimmer: | wagnerrp: With mytharchive you can archive to a directory which could be a USB-device. |
| [20:13:31] | Finswimmer: | This is what I am doing at the moment. Recording several shows for my brother. Archiving them onto usb. Then importing them one by one on my brothers' machine. |
| [20:16:43] | wagnerrp: | there are plans to allow for a "detached frontend" |
| [20:17:12] | wagnerrp: | where the frontend can operate without connection to the master backend, and will access recordings from a local path with metadata stored in xml files |
| [20:18:02] | Finswimmer: | Ok. But this would not help in my case as I want to transfer recordings between different mythTV installations. |
| [20:18:23] | wagnerrp: | but full import to another independent system is one of those legally iffy things, that we tend to want to avoid |
| [20:18:41] | wagnerrp: | by legally iffy, i mean other products have been successfully sued over offering it |
| [20:20:24] | Finswimmer: | wagnerrp: I see. But this function is already implemented. It would just be easier to add multiple archived files at once and not one by one. |
| [20:21:27] | xris: | Finswimmer: #mythtv-users, please.. and look at nuvexport. |
| [20:28:52] | Finswimmer: | xris: I know nuvexport. But this is the opposite (it is just for exporting). I wanted to help and implementing a better solution for importing several recordings and was therefore asking what your opinion for a good GUI way is. |
| [20:29:39] | xris: | wow, mark quit? |
| [20:29:51] | Finswimmer: | Or is this approach wrong? And I should develop something and file a bug report with a patch without talking about it to you? |
| [20:30:10] | xris: | Finswimmer: #mythtv-users please |
| [20:30:12] | wagnerrp: | xris: seems that way |
| [20:30:31] | xris: | wonder when his mythtv-fork project will start. |
| [20:31:50] | taylorr: | !seen iamlindoro |
| [20:31:50] | MythLogBot: | iamlindoro was last seen 1 day 12 hours 11 minutes 54 seconds ago |
| [20:32:04] | Finswimmer: | xris: Sorry if I did something wrong... I do not want to fork something. All I wanted is to help and contribute in this great software. |
| [20:32:29] | wagnerrp: | Finswimmer: no, talking about something else |
| [20:32:31] | xris: | Finswimmer: two conversations. just pointing out that this is the development channel, not the user support channel. |
| [20:32:49] | wagnerrp: | xris: hes actually looking to develop a feature for mytharchive, and wondering the best course |
| [20:32:57] | xris: | ah. |
| [20:33:27] | xris: | anyway, nuvexport has a "raw" mode that copies (or hard links) the video file along with a .sql file for import. it's likely out of date for the schema but shouldn't be too hard to update. |
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| [20:34:44] | Finswimmer: | xris: Yes. But a more graphical solution (as in mytharchive) is in my opinion better. So I will rather help in this piece of project. |
| [20:36:26] | Finswimmer: | What is the best way? Just develop one way (for selecting these xml files) and put this on the mailing list along with a mockup/example screenshots? or first discuss what to do exactly and then programm it? |
| [20:38:00] | sphery: | So, are we going to #mythtv-users or not? |
| [20:39:02] | sphery: | IMHO, the legacy approach of allowing users to import shows into Watch Recordings makes no sense with current MythTV (specifically with MythVideo's excellent support for TV) and with future plans (i.e. the upcoming ability to tell MythTV to show any video in either or both of Watch Recordings or MythVideo). |
| [20:39:43] | sphery: | So, any "user-named" or "user-organized" video goes into MythVideo, and only MythTV recorded video is stored in the, er, recorded table |
| [20:41:01] | xris: | yeah. probably easiest to just export to a filename format that myth video can then use to grab meta data from tvdb. |
| [20:41:46] | stuarta: | danielk22: i've hopefully fixed the mingw build for you |
| [20:42:32] | sphery: | Finswimmer: I'd be happy to go into details on the current capabilities and future plans in #mythtv-users (but as many of us try to read everything in here to keep up, don't want to flood this channel with the info) |
| [20:43:52] | Finswimmer: | sphery: Ok. I am switching over. |
| [20:51:46] | natanojl: | Beirdo: Didn't you get the order wrong in cff84e3e9 :) |
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| [20:54:08] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [20:54:10] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [20:54:15] | Beirdo: | OMG. |
| [20:54:43] | Beirdo: | good catch. not that we are likely to hit it often if at all, but we SHOULD have it right |
| [20:56:27] | Beirdo: | fixed |
| [20:58:24] | natanojl: | great :) |
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| [21:34:39] | Seeker`: | I've got a 3-line patch to change the non-tree views for MythVideo to only incremental search through title and subtitle. a) Is this likely to be accepted if it doesn't break anything else, and b) Does it need to be working for tree view as well to be accepted? |
| [22:03:11] | stuarta: | anyone object if i disable quartz video on mac by default for 0.25? |
| [22:03:37] | stuarta: | it throws bucket loads of depreciated warnings and i've no doubt the opengl works fine |
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| [22:04:28] | MythBuild: | build #576 of master-vista-mingw-32bit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/576 |
| [22:04:42] | stuarta: | hah! fixed it |
| [22:06:21] | danielk22: | stuarta: no objection here, but we probably need to update the video profiles... |
| [22:06:41] | stuarta: | hmmm |
| [22:07:19] | stuarta: | that'll be the bit that would need work |
| [22:08:13] | danielk22: | Yeah, we really need to fix the existing ones for Linux anyway. |
| [22:08:37] | stuarta: | maybe that's better done after 0.25 then? |
| [22:09:44] | danielk22: | Maybe, I dunno exactly what the fallout will be, and nigel isn't much around to notice OSX breakage. |
| [22:10:40] | danielk22: | MythBuild: force build cppcheck-master now |
| [22:10:41] | MythBuild: | build forced [ETA 9m00s] |
| [22:10:41] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
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| [22:18:42] | stuartm: | I think we should get video profiles sorted for 0.25, and disable quartz too, there's no point shipping 0.25 with profiles we know to be imperfect |
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| [22:20:06] | MythBuild: | Hey! build cppcheck-master #575 is complete: Success [build successful] |
| [22:20:06] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/cppc . . . r/builds/575 |
| [22:20:17] | wagnerrp: | is there any possibility of getting video profiles actually fixed? such that you can create new ones without funky work arounds? |
| [22:24:38] | wagnerrp: | as i understood it, it was a problem with the old UI and some bugs in the Qt libraries |
| [22:27:33] | danielk22: | wagnerrp: maybe, I'm not sure what actually broke it but I also haven't really looked at it. A day or two of debugging it might be enough to fix it using the old UI... |
| [22:27:34] | stuartm: | there was some talk of simplifying video profiles enormously, e.g. dropping the < > res stuff and just having rules for SD and HD respectively |
| [22:27:58] | danielk22: | stuartm: that might be a taller order than just fixing what is already there.. |
| [22:28:14] | wagnerrp: | i think sphery knows more about it |
| [22:28:23] | stuartm: | he always does |
| [22:28:28] | danielk22: | w00t! down to 16 in cppcheck.. |
| [22:28:37] | wagnerrp: | something about having to make multiple successive passes through that screen, all the way to 'finish', and back through |
| [22:28:44] | wagnerrp: | in order to get it to properly store the data |
| [22:29:12] | danielk22: | wagnerrp: well that's the workaround.. basically the UI isn't updating properly anymore but the data is still getting saved. |
| [22:29:24] | wagnerrp: | effectively makes that screen a mess for anything but editing existing profiles |
| [22:52:33] | danielk22: | MythBuild: force build cppcheck-master now |
| [22:52:34] | MythBuild: | build forced [ETA 9m07s] |
| [22:52:34] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
| [23:01:50] | MythBuild: | Hey! build cppcheck-master #577 is complete: Success [build successful] |
| [23:01:50] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/cppc . . . r/builds/577 |
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| [23:14:09] | sphery: | danielk22: exactly... no idea what's wrong with the UI code, but it hasn't worked since the Qt4 port. I've spent way too much time trying to figure it out--unsuccessfully--so I can guarantee I won't be able to fix it before 0.25 |
| [23:16:57] | sphery: | That said, in master, there are no "known to be bad" playback profile groups left for GNU/Linux (now that we've removed XvMC and PVR-350 decoding, officially--which effectively just removed CPU+, CPU++, and CPU-- profile groups--leaving HQ, Normal, and Slim + all the VDPAU ones). |
| [23:18:00] | sphery: | It would be useful to put in some OpenGL ones, but I don't want to choose the settings for them. If someone else gives me the list (similar to the descriptions of existing ones at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Playback_profiles ), I can add the code to add OpenGL example profile groups. |
| [23:18:32] | sphery: | And, I can fix the existing groups to switch quartz-blit to opengl, if you want, but I think there's a ticket saying GL on Mac OS X isn't working |
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| [23:20:53] | sphery: | ah, guess it was just a question on -users, not a ticket? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/466057#466057 ... May work fine in master, though? |
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| [23:27:30] | stuartm: | stuarta is the only one of us actually building for osx, he should be able to answer that |
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| [23:28:58] | sphery: | yeah, if it seems to work for him, it probably makes sense to switch it--since there are lots of problems with quartz (and lots of mentions of problems on the list) |
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| [23:34:24] | stuartm: | if there are problems with opengl we'll learn about them during the beta/rc phase |
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| [23:47:27] | danielk22: | stuartm: have you looked at the cppcheck report lately? :) |
| [23:48:00] | stuartm: | danielk22: a moment ago, nice work |
| [23:49:35] | stuartm: | I should add something to the report script so that it still looks ok when there are no warnings left |
| [23:52:23] | stuartm: | m_currentMetadata just needs initialising to NULL, and m_totalTime to zero |
| [23:53:55] | stuartm: | the goom/bumpscope stuff can probably just be commented out, I think those conditionals were there to add future functionality to those visualisers but no-one has touched them in years |
| [23:55:43] | stuartm: | the rssparse.cpp warning is a false positive, it cannot expand the Q_FOREACH macro |
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