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| [07:57:56] | MythBuild: | build #10 of master-osx-snow-leopard is complete: Failure [failed git] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . rd/builds/10 blamelist: Jaak Pruulmann-Vengerfeldt <marillat@debian.org > |
| [07:58:24] | MythBuild: | build #4 of 0.24-osx-snow-leopard is complete: Failure [failed git] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.24 . . . ard/builds/4 blamelist: Jaak Pruulmann-Vengerfeldt <marillat@debian.org > |
| [08:00:52] | wagnerrp: | damn that Jaak Pruulmann-Vengerfeldt for breaking mythtv |
| [08:01:23] | wagnerrp: | MythBuild: force build master-osx-snow-leopard now |
| [08:01:26] | MythBuild: | build forced [ETA 12m40s] |
| [08:01:26] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
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| [08:07:21] | markk: | stuartm: the osd position resetting has been around for a few months. |
| [08:14:09] | MythBuild: | build #11 of master-osx-snow-leopard is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . rd/builds/11 |
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| [09:10:32] | stuarta: | wtf does that keep failing git |
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| [09:44:01] | ** stuarta applies tuning of ccache size to debian buildslave as well ** | |
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| [10:48:40] | MythBuild: | build #5 of 0.24-osx-snow-leopard is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.24 . . . ard/builds/5 |
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| [11:18:04] | stuartm: | markk: thank you for adapting and commiting the animation patch |
| [11:19:06] | stuartm: | markk: I guess I don't watch many in-progress recordings because I only noticed the issue recently |
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| [11:22:13] | stuartm: | sphery: did you figure out the cause of that schema upgrade failure on a clean install? |
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| [11:46:05] | stuartm: | stuarta: busy day at work? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/17/game_hack_denied/ |
| [11:58:39] | stuarta: | hadn't seen that, but that doesn't directly affect me, not my systems |
| [11:58:53] | stuarta: | plus i'm in dont care mode as i've resigned |
| [12:01:49] | stuartm: | ah |
| [12:06:50] | ** stuarta is off to work at Redhat :) ** | |
| [12:08:07] | stuartm: | cool |
| [12:11:05] | stuarta: | wonder if that means i'll run into j-rod one day |
| [12:12:59] | stuarta: | on different note, the osx buildslave finally build after a commit without borking at the git phase |
| [12:13:04] | stuarta: | er built |
| [12:18:02] | danielk22: | stuarta: congrats! :) |
| [12:18:26] | stuarta: | thanks |
| [12:18:36] | stuartm: | we just need an arm buildslave now :) |
| [12:18:43] | stuarta: | :) |
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| [12:32:16] | Peitolm: | stuarta: run the raspbery_pi dev vm ? |
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| [12:41:18] | stuartm: | that's a good suggestion |
| [12:42:24] | stuartm: | especially since the masochist inside me wants to try and get the frontend (maybe backend too) running on the RP |
| [12:49:01] | Peitolm: | i think that's a goal of many people |
| [12:49:08] | Peitolm: | myself included |
| [12:49:21] | Peitolm: | hopefully i will get a round tuit soon |
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| [13:24:34] | stuarta: | Peitolm: didn't know there was one |
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| [14:26:52] | markk: | stuartm: I don't think getting the frontend up and running on a raspberry pi will be a big deal – getting it playing video will be a whole different kettle of fish though. |
| [14:31:07] | wagnerrp: | markk: getting it up and running well? |
| [14:31:17] | wagnerrp: | the stock Pi comes with 128MB of memory |
| [14:31:55] | Peitolm: | http://russelldavis.org/2011/09/10/virtualbox . . . development/ |
| [14:32:04] | wagnerrp: | last time i ran the frontend on my laptop (maybe a year ago), the frontend choked hard on anything less than 384MB |
| [14:32:32] | wagnerrp: | at 384, it worked well enough moving around the menus at 1280x720 |
| [14:32:40] | wagnerrp: | at 256MB, i was swapping hard just to open it |
| [14:35:00] | Peitolm: | A is 128, B is 256 |
| [14:36:03] | Peitolm: | a has no wired ethernet, b has 10/100 |
| [14:36:13] | wagnerrp: | and IME, both are too weak |
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| [14:37:11] | markk: | wagnerrp: I would expect 256 to be within reason – if not out of the box, then certainly with some tweaks to the painter cache sizes and a tweaked theme that relies heavily on rects/rounded rects (which will not consume memory using opengl es 2.0) |
| [14:37:52] | wagnerrp: | markk: this was with the Qt painter, if that makes any difference |
| [14:38:08] | wagnerrp: | good ol' rage 128 just doesnt cut it with the opengl painter |
| [14:38:11] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [14:43:06] | stuartm: | the default image cache size is 20MB, on top of that you've got the string texture cache and any additional caches used by particular painters |
| [14:47:55] | stuartm: | I cannot recall the last time I took a hard look at the significant areas of memory consumption, mythvideo/mythmusic/pbb all cache certain amounts of data although they are probably insignificant compared to other areas |
| [15:04:25] | stuartm: | for a token but cathartic reduction in memory usage we could audit and remove all dead/unused code |
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| [16:33:26] | sphery: | stuartm: yeah, I know what's going on and will have it patched in the next day or 2 (just finishing up some other stuff after getting behind due to travel) |
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| [19:08:02] | wagnerrp: | markk: is a 4096 wide frame even workable with most OpenGL implementations? |
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| [20:13:13] | markk: | wagnerrp: probably not a problem with anything less than 2–3 years old (maybe longer) |
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| [20:50:54] | sphery: | markk: would a shape-based theme (using shapes for most everything) save memory on other painters, too? I've been considering starting up a new theme project to create 2 complete, basically "identical" themes--one square and one wide--and was thinking of using shapes rather than images for as much as possible (with hope that the ugliness would cause some users to take pity and help make it prettier than I can with my lack of artistic talent, ... |
| [20:51:00] | sphery: | ... and then have a theme that could be used as a default) |
| [20:53:13] | stuartm: | you can layer shapes with gradients to give a reasonably sophisticated albeit plain effect |
| [20:54:12] | sphery: | yeah, I'm thinking a new default theme would have to be relatively neutral--since anything even remotely controversial will get a lot of users bent way out of shape |
| [20:55:03] | sphery: | that's also why I'm thinking of doing a "designed as default" theme--because it's likely to be too boring for anyone with real artistic talent to want to do alone (and I'm really hoping to get a team of users to help :) |
| [20:55:07] | stuartm: | in the following everything except the arrows and icons could be done using shapes, that includes the background – http://miffteevee.co.uk/imagebin/nova_nivelo.png |
| [20:55:20] | sphery: | (especially when you have to do a wide and square version of everything) |
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| [20:56:10] | stuartm: | strictly speaking even the icons, the little TV etc are shape based only drawn in Inkscape which is considerably easier than replicating them in a text-editor with xml |
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| [21:16:25] | kenni: | danielk22 (or someone else who perhaps knows the answer): I spend a couple of hours the other day trying to get an overview of the channelscanner code. While at it, I noticed that the European HDHomerun always makes use of the dvbt_ofdm frequency tables, even when it's configured as DVB-C and should be using the dvbc_qam tables. Is this just for historical reasons, as the European HDHR originally was DVB-T only, or is there something else to it? |
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| [21:26:46] | davide: | kenni: danielk22 will only be on irc sporadically for the couple of weeks or so. your best bet to reach him is with email. |
| [21:27:04] | kenni: | davide: ok, thanks |
| [21:27:13] | davide: | yw |
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| [21:32:24] | stuarta: | kenni: it's probably historical |
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| [22:02:44] | dekarl: | looking at #10269, I've tested my patch at #7701 but I must have got something wrong (in a non-obvious way) so if someone feels like reviving the channels.conf import as a workaround for the dvb channel scan, any help is welcome (hi kenni :) |
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| [22:46:25] | markk: | sphery: at the moment, opengl 2.0/es is the painter(s) to use for saving memory. it could be done with the the default opengl painter but it's a lot of work – and I plan on switching the default to opengl 2 once 0.25 is out. (the default opengl painter only draws plain rectangles natively) |
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| [22:52:06] | sphery: | interesting... thanks for the info |
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