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Tuesday, December 20th, 2011, 00:01 UTC
[00:01:21] Beirdo_: I use the RECORDING_STARTED event, and then look for 0-byte files after 15s or so
[00:01:46] Beirdo_: for me, last I checked, it power cycles it maybe once every few weeks
[00:02:29] Beirdo_: I also trigger on RECORDING_FINISHED to cancel any currently running timers (so livetv startup works right)
[00:11:08] abqjp: Might be nice, if there was a "damaged" system event.
[00:11:25] Beirdo_: That likely wouldn't be hard to add
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[01:30:10] abqjp: danielk22, do you still use your HD-PVRs? It looks like LiveTV is broken with them, and I am wondering if it is something specific to my setup, or if it is broken in general.
[01:33:03] abqjp: LiveTV starts, and plays about 1 second of video/audio, and then freezes. Looking at the logs, I get a POLL error a couple of seconds in, and LiveTV does not recover from that. It is very consistent — so I am wondering what is causing the POLL timeout. It did not used to do that (a year ago).
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[02:15:21] danielk22: abqjp: two out of three have died on me, but i have one left. can't say i've tried livetv lately. i'll give it a try...
[02:17:42] abqjp: Been a long time since I tried LiveTV, as well.
[02:26:22] Beirdo_: check your dmesg too. Mine tends to spew errors about encirq running out of buffers
[02:26:47] Beirdo_: when I see that, I turn it off, rmmod hdpvr, modprobe hdpvr, turn back on, and it clears up
[02:27:45] abqjp: So, in general, LiveTV works for you with the HD-PVR?
[02:28:06] Beirdo_: last I tried it, yes
[02:28:16] Beirdo_: I very rarely use LiveTV though
[02:28:37] Beirdo_: with over 3TB of recordings, I rarely have occasion
[02:30:02] abqjp: I don't see any errors about buffers, tonight.
[02:30:20] Beirdo_: OK, so likely not that.. this time
[02:30:41] Beirdo_: you may need a longer channel change timeout, although why that would have changed, I dunno
[02:30:46] Beirdo_: err, delay, not timeout
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[02:30:54] Beirdo: stupid _
[02:31:35] abqjp: I already have 4 seconds, but I could try a larger delay.
[02:33:47] abqjp: 8 seconds did not change the behavior
[02:35:00] Beirdo: so much for that idea then :(
[02:36:19] abqjp: 12 did, though.... Ouch.
[02:36:26] danielk22: abqjp: I just did a quick check and it worked.
[02:37:10] abqjp: danielk22, I just increased my channel change script delay to 12 seconds, and that fixed it. Did not used to need to be that long, so I don't know why it does now...
[02:37:37] Beirdo: Wow. You're using DirecTV, too, right?
[02:37:57] abqjp: Yes.
[02:38:22] Beirdo: Interesting, maybe the receiver needs a slap or something
[02:39:24] abqjp: I rebooted them a couple of days ago...
[02:39:31] abqjp: Just tried 10 seconds, and that was not enough.
[02:43:26] Beirdo: wow, I feel lucky
[02:43:49] Beirdo: I have mine at 500ms
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[02:48:12] abqjp: Beirdo, can you reliably change channels in LiveTV, with it set at 500ms?
[02:49:22] Beirdo: last I tried. Let me see.
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[02:50:37] abqjp: Do you have native resolution turned on, in your Directv STBs? I do, so it can take a while to sync when changing from a 720p to a 1080i channel, or visa-versa.
[02:50:57] Beirdo: heh, it's off recording
[02:51:09] Beirdo: yeah, I have that turned on
[02:52:40] abqjp: Mine is now recording too, so I will investigate more later. Thanks for the double-check.
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[02:52:56] Beirdo: no prob. I'll try again later when it's idle
[02:53:17] abqjp: Thanks.
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[05:04:51] XDS2010: How do i mount the windows environment writable in mythbuntu ? (note im using wubi)
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[09:29:08] MnF: Hi all, Ive been in here recently asking about an issue where my audio becomes distorted and has issues about 10–15 minutes into watching recorded or live content, and I just thought I'd update since I seem to have fixed it. I noticed in the logs it happened about the same time as a error from the PAT displaying unable to find channels, so I turned off active EIT scanning when watching live + recording channels on each tuner, and that
[09:29:25] MnF: This was on 0.24 mythbackend + frontends under gentoo.
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[14:01:50] danielk22: Beirdo: Does the HD-PVR powercycle save the remainder of the recording or does it just protect future recordings?
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[14:50:02] taylorr: danielk22: you know that the HD-PVRs have 2 year warranties
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[16:08:18] taylorr: danielk22: in case you missed my last message due to the netsplit – HD-PVRs have a two year warranty in case you didn't know
[16:15:25] stuarta: haha! victory over the eit monkeys!
[16:15:53] stuarta: thou shalt not break my duplicate detection by new and creative ways of putting EIT data in
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[16:50:33] danielk22: taylorr: Oh, I didn't know that! I tossed the one I bought and assume the warranty doesn't apply to the one Hauppauge gave me. :)
[16:51:53] danielk22: taylorr: Both of the ones that failed on me were fanless models, I assume the failure rate of the new ones is much lower.
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[17:34:13] taylorr: danielk22: I would just send back the one Hauppauge gave you in place of the one you tossed
[17:34:26] taylorr: they don't track serial numbers anyways
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[17:42:56] sphery: stuarta: was the "new and creative ways of putting EIT data in" this: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10198 ?
[17:49:15] sphery: danielk22: Currently, Beirdo is using a script that just restarts the HD-PVR, then he deals with the 0-byte recording later. However, it would be easy enough to write a script to delete the 0-byte recording and allow re-record (which would allow it to either restart the current recording or, if there's another showing in the listings, record that one). See http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/498784#498784 and wagnerrp's reply ...
[17:49:21] sphery: ... under it.
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[17:52:17] dekarl: sphery: likely a variant of the "different guide data on different copies of the same channel" game that the lords of EIT play in germany.
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