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[15:27:36] davide: Captain_Murdoch: are you around? i haven't been following the services stuff as closely as i'd like, but i have a question regarding your Dvr/GetFilteredRecordedList commit. if the filter arguments are optional, why couldn't support for them have been added to the existing entry point instead of adding a new one?
[15:28:45] davide: taylorr: i have ron frazier's ceton patch running on master now, so i can test your fps change and length calculation changes. what do you want me to try?
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[16:35:03] taylorr: davide: sorry, I've been very busy lately and haven't committed the changes yet
[16:37:28] Captain_Murdoch: davide, args are optional in the Web services API, but not in the .qsp script API. so if I added optional args to the GetRecordedList call, that would mean that all .qsp usage of GetRecordedList would have to change. If we added a new filter in the future, we'd have to change all .qsp calls again, etc.. by adding a new GetFilteredRecordedList, we only have to change those .qsp calls if we add new filter capabilities later.
[16:39:19] Captain_Murdoch: that's my understanding of it. If it is incorrect, I would have no problem changing to a single GetRecordedList.
[16:40:22] oliver: hi folks... is there a WSDL for the Services API?
[16:41:15] oliver: I'm interested in producing a Perl binding and that would be useful.
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[16:42:26] oliver: commit logs suggest there might be a call to retrieve the WDSL but it's broken (?) – anyway I'm new to the mythtv innards so could do with some pointers.
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[16:43:05] Captain_Murdoch: http://YOURBACKENDIP:6544/Dvr/wsdl /Content/wsdl etc.. if you're running master, you can also hit http://YOURBACKENDIP:6544/ and click the 'api' button at the bottom of the page.
[16:43:32] oliver: Captain_Murdoch: super, many thanks
[16:43:42] Captain_Murdoch: yw
[16:44:12] oliver: d'you know of anyone else working on a Perl binding? I've not found any such activity myself.
[16:45:19] davide: Captain_Murdoch: ok. taylorr: ok, let me know when you have something you want me to test.
[16:53:54] davide: danielk22: in the "channel remap" thread on -users, ron frazier said the hdhr prime supposrt uses channum for the virtual channel number. why doesn't it use freqid? wouldn't using freqid be more consistent with our other non-mplexid using cases?
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[17:07:57] dblain: oliver: The wsdl support is not 100% yet. It may work for what you are doing, but I know there are some issues I still need to fix.
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[17:23:31] oliver: dblain: okay thanks for the heads-up
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[18:38:45] Beirdo: la la la..
[18:38:52] Captain_Murdoch: oliver, I don't think the existing perl bindings are getting much activity now. they are somewhat implemented under bindings/perl and are used by nuvexport I think. I believe that they lag far behind the python bindings. Beirdo, wagnerrp, or xris might have some guidance in the bindings implementations area.
[18:39:15] xris: that statement is correct.  :)
[18:39:20] Beirdo: the perl bindings haven't seen much love
[18:39:44] Beirdo: there was someone that was looking into adding stuff, but he seems to have disappeared
[18:39:48] xris: and at this point, if I had time to rewrite them I'd probably spend it converting other stuff to python.
[18:40:16] wagnerrp: meshe was going to look into it but never did anything
[18:40:46] wagnerrp: then neutron had some amount written, but apparently got confused thinking he should wait for the recordedfile schema update
[18:40:49] Beirdo: I think nutron may have been interested too
[18:41:40] Beirdo: ahh, well, if there are updates to add, by all means. With limited time plus varying interests, it hasn't really happened for a while now anyways.
[18:41:44] wagnerrp: oliver: when you say 'perl binding', do you mean something to interface with mythtv's database and/or backend protocol?
[18:41:58] wagnerrp: or are you talking something specifically dealing with WSDL parsing and access
[18:42:39] Beirdo: good question :)
[18:42:50] wagnerrp: the former exists in the perl bindings you should have installed, and what capt'm is talking about
[18:43:00] wagnerrp: the latter does not currently exist in the perl, python, or php bindings
[18:43:19] wagnerrp: and if youre working on one, would make a nice addition to any
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[18:52:33] sphery: yes, and may well be able to replace a lot of the old direct-db-accessing code in the bindings, too
[18:53:42] sphery: actually, I think services api is what nutron was waiting for, not recordedfile schema (as with services api, he wouldn't need direct DB access so the schema wouldn't matter)
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[20:20:14] oliver: hi again
[20:20:32] oliver: wagnerrp: the latter – a new perl binding for the Services API
[20:20:55] oliver: I'm aware of the existing perl library for mythtv but also know it's out of date and unloved.
[20:21:43] oliver: I was going to take a look at the existing library then spotted the new Services API and figured it was the Right Way To Go
[20:25:27] oliver: with a WDSL it should be fairly straightforward to make a Perlish interface. I've done this before for other tools with some success.
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[20:43:05] Beirdo: oliver: sounds like a great idea
[20:43:30] oliver: okay
[20:44:23] oliver: it'll probably take me longer to find some way to spin up a 0.25 instance, at home :)
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[20:52:08] Beirdo: frick
[20:52:28] Beirdo: I need to restart the windows buildslave, obviously
[21:20:47] Beirdo: OK, restarted... last build... Nov 7
[21:20:48] Beirdo: damn
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[22:12:35] MythBuild: build #327 of master-vista-mingw-32bit is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/327 blamelist: Lawrence Rust <lvr@softsystem.co.uk >, [R] <androidrbox@gmail.com >, Jason Lewis <jason@dickson.st >, John Poet <jpoet@mythtv.org >, Daniel Kristjansson <danielk@cuymedia.net >, User <mythtv@kosowsky.org >, Taylor Ralph <tralph@mythtv.org >, Robert McNa
[22:12:35] MythBuild: <jyavenard@mythtv.org >, Raymond Wagner <rwagner@mythtv.org >, R.D. Vaughan <r.d.vaughan@rogers.com >, David Engel <dengel@mythtv.org >, Rune Evjen <rune.evjen@gmail.com >, Daniel Thor Kristjansson <danielk@cuymedia.net >, Nicolas Riendeau <nriendeau@mythtv.org >, John Patrick Poet <jpoet@mythtv.org >, Mark Kendall <mkendall@mythtv.org >, Spanish Language Translation Team <amlopezalonso@gmail.com >, Kenni Lund <kenni@mythtv.org >, Walter Che
[22:12:35] MythBuild: <cpinkham@mythtv.org >
[22:17:49] Beirdo: hehe. Oooh boy
[22:19:07] Beirdo: d:\buildbot\mythtv\master-vista-mingw-32bit\build\source\mythtv\libs\libmythtv/N uppelVideoRecorder.h:81: undefined reference to `_imp___ZN11V4LRecorder9SetOptio
[22:19:19] Beirdo: there be the complile error
[22:19:44] Beirdo: _imp___ZN11V4LRecorder9SetOptionERK7QStringS2_ in full
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[22:29:43] Beirdo: Think I got it.
[22:38:51] iamlindoro: Wow, blaming users, blaming huge chunks of devs, nobody is safe
[22:42:23] Beirdo: hehe
[22:42:38] Beirdo: it was behind by 120 or so compiles
[22:43:10] Beirdo: anyways, the culprit was a "MPUBLIC" instead of "MTV_PUBLIC" on V4LRecorder class as far as I can tell
[22:43:18] Beirdo: that's what should be compiling now
[22:43:52] Beirdo: so now we wait an indeterminate amount of time and see
[22:47:46] ** oliver dons asbestos trousers **
[22:47:56] oliver: and I've not even committed anything
[22:59:48] j-rod is now known as j-rod|afk
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[23:39:50] Aeth: So, if I have Comcast, I can rent a CableCard to get HD TV onto my computer?
[23:41:33] iamlindoro: Aeth: wrong channel, see topci, you want #mythtv-users
[23:42:47] Aeth: oh, whoops
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[23:48:16] Beirdo: crap, failed compile #2
[23:48:40] Beirdo: same error
[23:48:44] Beirdo: bloody hell
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