| Saturday, November 12th, 2011, 00:26 UTC | ||
| [00:26:00] | ** iamlindoro is not crazy of 10161 ** | |
| [00:33:29] | iamlindoro: | s/of/about/ |
| [00:34:13] | iamlindoro: | ProgramInfo is vile enough without 32 new methods because people don't want to buy proper computers, but do want to load 2000 recordings :) |
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| [02:10:20] | mrand: | what if they buy a half-proper computer with only 1000 recordings? ;-) |
| [02:11:17] | wagnerrp: | theyre talking about 4 seconds to load instead of 6 |
| [02:11:29] | wagnerrp: | where a 'proper' computer would natively do it in 1–2 |
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| [02:18:29] | iamlindoro: | Some efficiency improvements are not worth the tradeoff in code readability |
| [02:18:42] | iamlindoro: | s/efficiency/speed/ |
| [02:18:51] | iamlindoro: | since his code is actually less efficient |
| [02:20:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | it would make more sense to do lazy loading of the recordings list from the backend. I don't want to see us only load a single recording group at a time (like one previous user patch) because that slows down switching between groups (which we do frequently at my house), but we could lazy load the rest of the list. it would take a big patch, but we could load enough info to build the 'title' list, then load the rest in the bac |
| [02:20:26] | Captain_Murdoch: | kground. |
| [02:21:01] | wagnerrp: | its not like theres all that much data there |
| [02:21:09] | wagnerrp: | is there any reason not to simply cache that data |
| [02:21:19] | Captain_Murdoch: | cache on the MBE? |
| [02:21:19] | ** iamlindoro thinks the PBB seems enough like a web page sometimes ** | |
| [02:21:25] | wagnerrp: | and keep it updated with events from the backend? |
| [02:21:34] | wagnerrp: | cache on the FE |
| [02:21:35] | Captain_Murdoch: | we do cache it on the FE until you exit PBB. |
| [02:21:45] | wagnerrp: | so it doesnt have to be pulled every time you open the PBB |
| [02:21:48] | Captain_Murdoch: | and we try to do inserts/updates/deletes now. |
| [02:23:01] | Captain_Murdoch: | caching on the FE means you either keep that cache up to date all the time, in something like PBBCache::CustomEvent() or you have to do a diff when you startup PBB to see what to reload/resync. |
| [02:23:52] | wagnerrp: | right, im saying move it into some background task that is always receiving backend events |
| [02:24:30] | wagnerrp: | not including images, each ProgramInfo consumes a few tens of KB? |
| [02:24:46] | iamlindoro: | I doubt it's anywhere near that |
| [02:27:23] | Captain_Murdoch: | to me, memory isn't the issue, it's the logic. FE needs to be able to check it's version of the cache against the MBE's version, so you almost need cache version numbers. for instance when the FE suspends, misses events, and wakes up again. it needs to know whether to reload the list or not. |
| [02:27:57] | wagnerrp: | if it suspends, it would drop connection to the backend and have to reconnect |
| [02:28:06] | wagnerrp: | couldnt it just trigger a full refresh on a reconnect? |
| [02:28:21] | Captain_Murdoch: | granted, most of those apply to the PBB cache as well. |
| [02:28:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | in-PBB cache that is. |
| [02:28:33] | wagnerrp: | or perhaps trigger one when you enter the PBB, and lazily update the on-screen version at that point |
| [02:35:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah. could do. to me it just seems better to only request what you need rather than trying to maintain a mirror of all the data all the time. |
| [02:35:05] | Captain_Murdoch: | s/better/easier/ |
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| [02:37:55] | Captain_Murdoch: | PBB could first request just a list of recordings' chanid, starttime, title, category, and recgroup in order to draw the 'title' and group areas. then to draw the 'recordings' area, it could lazy load the list. new MBE command could supply a list of chanids/starttimes to load and result is a list of programinfos. that would allow loading one or multiple at the same time. |
| [02:38:24] | Captain_Murdoch: | again, a lot of code, and nothing that bothers me enough to spend time on. :) |
| [02:40:37] | Captain_Murdoch: | got better things to work on like audio sync issues in my HTTP live streaming mythtranscode mods along with the services API to go along with it. |
| [02:44:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | iamlindoro, I configured with --enable-libvpx and was able to write out a webm file with vp8 video and vorbis audio that was playable in mythavtest. |
| [02:44:55] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: Sweet :) |
| [02:45:38] | iamlindoro: | Nice progress |
| [02:46:01] | iamlindoro: | How does $FreeBrowser handle the file? |
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| [02:52:32] | Captain_Murdoch: | haven't tried yet. I just did that earlier today and haven't tried playing it elsewhere. |
| [02:53:02] | iamlindoro: | Very cool all the same-- one presumes it should play OK it at least Chrome |
| [03:02:27] | Captain_Murdoch: | video just played fine in chrome, but no audio, but then I've never tried AV in chrome on this laptop before, so I don't know if audio ever worked. |
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| [23:42:27] | jpabq: | sphery, iamlindoro regarding #9213, does that ONLY apply to user-defined cut lists? If so, that is fine, but I would obviously not want that behavior for commflagged cutlists. |
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| [23:46:23] | iamlindoro: | jpabq: ? That's not my ticket |
| [23:46:59] | iamlindoro: | I was just catching up on the huge number of orphaned info needed tickets |
| [23:47:02] | jpabq: | You were just the last person to touch it. |
| [23:47:21] | iamlindoro: | I really don't know anything about it |
| [23:48:15] | jpabq: | Okay. I just wanted to put my 2 cents in. |
| [23:48:53] | iamlindoro: | commflag is a skip list in our terminology IIRC, a cultist is *only* user defined |
| [23:49:42] | jpabq: | Okay. I never noticed commflag being called a skip list before, but that works for me. Thanks. |
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