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| [01:10:46] | theborger: | hello, someone point me to a site that list remotes that work out of the box? around 40 to 50 bucks? |
| [01:11:39] | theborger: | will this one work fine? http://www.amazon.com/HP-Windows-Infrared-Rec . . . 1&sr=8-6 |
| [01:13:40] | iamlindoro: | theborger: wrong channel, see topic, you want #mythtv-users |
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| [01:13:57] | theborger: | ook |
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| [01:35:55] | iamlindoro: | gigem_: Sorry about the filter breakage :( |
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| [02:19:08] | gigem_: | iamlindoro: np. it just shows that i haven't been using master much. :) |
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| [04:38:03] | wagnerrp: | gigem_: you done with the schema bumps? |
| [04:41:26] | wagnerrp: | im going to assume yes and bump the bindings schemas |
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| [06:50:53] | red2kic: | I think I want to sell my TV. However, I'd like to get a TV tuner card so I can watch TV on VLC. Is that doable? |
| [06:51:07] | red2kic: | I realize this is not the place to ask but it's pretty damn close. |
| [06:53:03] | red2kic: | Oh there are videolan channel. :o |
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| [12:45:21] | megadeth: | Hi, when I run mythfilldatabase, it says "There are no channel sources defined, did you run the setup program?". How can I make it ignore that? |
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| [12:50:37] | megadeth: | I ran mythtv-setup already but I don't have a tv tuner card. I just want the video library |
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| [14:09:17] | stuartm: | sphery: for some reason the mythbackend DB upgrade prompt is being shown on a non-interactive console, when started via an init script? Is this intentional? |
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| [15:20:18] | davide: | wagnerrp: when i saw MYTH_DATABASE_VERSION was moved from dbcheck.cpp to mythversion.h, i assumed it was so the bindings had easier access to it and handled changes automatically. i guess it wasn't for that. sorry. |
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| [16:37:40] | iamlindoro: | dblain: I'd like to slightly rework the method names in Services for consistency, is that OK with you? This seems like the time to establish method naming standards. the changes I would like to make are: Adding a single item has a "Add" prefix (AddVideo, AddRecord, etc) rather than either Add or Create as it is right now. A method returning a single item is the singular of the item name (GetRecord, GetVideo, GetPreviewImage). |
| [16:37:40] | iamlindoro: | Method returning a list has a suffix of list (GetRecordedList, GetVideoList, GetChannelList). Make sensE? |
| [16:37:53] | iamlindoro: | There will likely never be a better time once we have users of the APIs |
| [16:38:56] | iamlindoro: | Oh, and removing an item is always "Remove" rather than either Remove or Delete |
| [16:39:54] | ** iamlindoro volunteers that he's probably more responsible for the inconsistencies than anyone, so he's mostly just cleaning up his own mess ** | |
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| [16:49:20] | ** stuarta chuckles ** | |
| [16:59:03] | dblain: | iamlindoro: I'm okay with the changes. |
| [17:02:27] | dblain: | markk: I noticed you started to convert the MythFEXml to use the services API. There were two datacontracts you created that had a QVariantMap as its only property. If there are going to be more properties added in the future, that class is fine. However, I THINK I set the serialization classes up to allow you to directly return a QVariantMap from the service function so you wouldn't need |
| [17:02:27] | dblain: | a custom datacontract class (would need to test to make sure). |
| [17:04:23] | markk: | dblain: there's an easy way to check:) |
| [17:07:58] | dblain: | Yep, I would of verified before commenting, but my dev box is so out of date it will take an hour or so to bring it back to a state I can use it. Figured I'd at least give you my observations. You may do what you wish with them :) |
| [17:07:58] | iamlindoro: | I was thinking it would be neat for the status contract to return the actions unique to that context |
| [17:10:30] | markk: | dblain: yes – it seems to be fine using a straight QVariantMap. |
| [17:10:58] | markk: | iamlindoro: do you mean with the status method or the action list? |
| [17:12:03] | iamlindoro: | markk: Well I guess it could be either, really, the action list is every action in the whole UI, right? I guess there's a place for that but without a sense of context it's really just a big list that the user of the API needs to learn about every item in |
| [17:12:20] | iamlindoro: | if you return the actions relevant only to the context, then the app doesn't even necessarily need updating |
| [17:12:35] | markk: | dblain: how hard would it be to use nested QVariantMaps for a little more complexity? |
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| [17:14:48] | markk: | iamlindoro: the previous action list returned it split by context but there wasn't an obvious way to do that with just a qvariantmap. the action list is really something for apps to confirm the actions they're using and get a translated string for each of them. would be easy enough to add a filter for context. |
| [17:15:34] | wagnerrp: | dblain: technically, theres no reason why we couldnt have the various installer scripts rewrite some file in the bindings to do just that |
| [17:16:25] | wagnerrp: | but its move was actually so i could have access to the database version somewhere other than the schema updater |
| [17:16:30] | dblain: | markk: It wouldn't be too difficult. I think all that would be needed would be to change line 246 in xmlSerializer.cpp to treat the value as a QVariant (calling appropriate functions to render) instead of calling .tostring(). |
| [17:17:20] | dblain: | wagnerrp: was that comment meant for me? |
| [17:17:38] | wagnerrp: | yeah, schema version moved into mythversion.h |
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| [17:18:00] | wagnerrp: | erm, no... davide |
| [17:18:05] | wagnerrp: | sprry |
| [17:18:07] | wagnerrp: | sorry |
| [17:18:15] | dblain: | np, just confused me a little! :) |
| [17:19:26] | dblain: | markk: calling the RenderValue function may be all that is needed. |
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| [17:21:50] | dblain: | markk: My goal was to have the implementors of the service classes treat them as standard c++ classes. Allowing them to return data the best way to represent the data and the serialization classes would render the appropriate format. A QVariantMap of QVariantMaps makes sense in some use cases, but I'd question if a more type specific approach might be more appropriate. |
| [17:24:18] | dblain: | either way, the change I mentioned above should allow QVariantMaps to render complex types better, so feel free to try it if you want. |
| [17:25:53] | markk: | dblain: with the action stuff, I was just keen to return an extra level of detail (grouped by context). for the frontend status, I'd like to make it as flexible as possible which might mean having different 'parts' of the frontend flesh out different sections (e.g. the playback widget would add a player section, the main widget a generic frontend status section) |
| [17:27:31] | markk: | though I'm really don't know on reflection whether that type of structure works with json |
| [17:29:00] | dblain: | I would thing the different status sections would be structured data? If I was designing this, I'd look at having a base class for the section status with shared properties and derive a specialized class for each unique section. The QVariantMap would contain the Base class. But I don't know the specifics of the data being returned. |
| [17:29:10] | dblain: | s/thing/think |
| [17:29:33] | dblain: | either way, json can represent the data fine. |
| [17:31:09] | dblain: | also, the serialization class would still need to be changed to support this. |
| [17:31:57] | dblain: | You're closer to the problem than I am... Layout how you want to use the data and I can help make sure the serialization classes can render it in json & xml |
| [17:32:03] | markk: | dblain: I think the core issue there is that nobody knows the specifics of the data being returned – it could be something that expands rapidly as demand from 3rd party apps increases or it could sit there as is for ever more:) |
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| [18:22:50] | markk: | dblain: I forgot to ask – is the xml serialisation for QVariantMap conforming to some standard? |
| [18:30:06] | dblain: | markk: No, the schema is anything that we want. |
| [18:30:19] | dblain: | I just tried to be consistent. |
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| [18:53:36] | sphery: | stuartm: It's definitely unintentional. I'd guess it's related to the fix for http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10090 . I just finished a bunch of travel and should be around for a while, now, so I'll take a look at it soon (once I catch up with commits/tickets). |
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| [19:30:15] | stuartm: | sphery: yeah, that looks a likely culprit, no particular hurry – I've been extremely busy myself lately |
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| [20:32:01] | dekarl: | thanks to superm1 I can now test my own patches #9990 does silence the false positives :) Who wants to commit it? |
| [20:33:28] | superm1: | probably worth mentioning for other developers in here too what dekarl is referring to. the packaging scripts for ubuntu can now accept random patches as an argument. basic howto here: http://mythbuntu.org/wiki/recipes |
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