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[03:23:09] sphery: iamlindoro: I think it was stuartm changed the GetPreviewImage to do that to improve performance when MythWeb was hammering the backend for previews. Might want to ask him for details.
[03:23:32] iamlindoro: sphery: No part of mythweb uses the Services API that I am aware of
[03:23:53] iamlindoro: Did someone convert preview gen to do so?
[03:25:31] sphery: I think it's the same code as the MythXML stuff... not sure if MythWeb is using MythXML (is it still in there?) or if it now uses services or if dblain just copied what was in MythXML when he did the services stuff or ...
[03:25:51] iamlindoro: MythXML is gone
[03:26:02] iamlindoro: so maybe it was converted to use Services after all
[03:26:18] iamlindoro: I still don't understand why it needs to use the low res to generate a high res
[03:26:28] iamlindoro: why can't mythweb just request the resolution it wants, which is tiny?
[03:26:29] sphery: yeah, I haven't looked at mythweb in master for quite some time, so not sure what its status is
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[03:27:48] iamlindoro: There really should be some option to generate a new screenshot, otherwise there's no point at all to producing a scaled one
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[03:27:55] dblain: iamlindoro: the preview generation has gone through many revisions by many people. sphery is correct, I just moved the code from mythxml into the new services.
[03:28:44] iamlindoro: dblain: blah. I suppose I could hack in another argument to generate it at the requested resolution, but that's ugly as hell
[03:29:53] iamlindoro: Very disappointing, the previews are ugly as hell when you're trying to use them in a high resolution UI-- secondary image types like coverart, fanart, etc. look great, but they're not guaranteed to be there
[03:29:55] sphery: I would like to see it do proper previews instead of scaling the low-res ones to make low-quality ones... maybe we no longer need that hack? see what stuartm thinkgs
[03:29:58] dblain: I'm fine with whatever changes you want to do with it. not sure who uses at this point.
[03:30:58] iamlindoro: If it's only mythweb, IMO mythweb should just pass the desired resolution to it, which is invariably smaller than the original
[03:31:13] iamlindoro: Which might have been the logic in the first place-- if you're only scaling down, it's irrelevant
[03:31:35] sphery: well, mythweb uses large previews for the details page--and they're not pretty
[03:31:45] iamlindoro: "large" is relative
[03:31:50] iamlindoro: 320x240 or something
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[03:32:39] iamlindoro: and in the details page, you only ever load a single image, so it can't be a matter of hammering the BE
[03:33:13] sphery: right--just saying that maybe that page was forgotten when deciding to scale the small default preview image
[03:33:57] dblain: personally, I'd prefer quality over speed.
[03:34:06] iamlindoro: Well... I'll take a stab at it since there are no objections so far. I suppose I could preserve the current "fast" scaling for requests < the default resolution, and generate for >
[03:34:48] iamlindoro: Thanks for all the context
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[09:28:43] wagnerrp: markk: dont know if you had spotted this, but some group is working on getting mythtv running on some ARM dev box... http://www.mythtv.org/wiki?title=Feature_Wish . . . ;oldid=53596
[09:29:14] wagnerrp: the device claims to support CEC natively, you may want to point them towards the libcec stuff you're working on
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[09:35:35] markk: wagnerrp: to be honest, apart from the video decode acceleration, I don't quite see what the big deal is. MythTV runs on arm devices. If ubuntu can run on it, MythTV shouldn't have a problem (and it has a gig of ram).
[09:36:05] markk: Now IF they're going to add some OpenMax support – that would be a big deal:)
[09:38:34] markk: I think we're going to see a glut of small, arm based boxes in the near future but the video decoding is still going to be the problem. I got semi-excited about the tegra 2 box someone mentioned the other day – but then reminded myself how much work OpenMax needs (even with Chutt's offer of help)
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[10:57:50] MythLogBot: xavierh was last seen 14 days 12 hours 59 minutes 46 seconds ago
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[11:32:53] lolmatic: hello
[11:33:36] lolmatic: i'm looking for a cheap and very small low power mainboard for running myth tv. it should have ide.
[11:33:46] lolmatic: any tips? :|
[11:33:46] laga: you're looking for #mythtv-users
[11:33:56] lolmatic: ah ok
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[14:43:25] stuartm: markk: is that last commit backportable to 0.24?
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[14:47:22] markk: stuartm: yes – just doing it now.
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[15:01:07] Chutt: markk, vdpau's not out of the question
[15:09:08] Chutt: omx'll be a safer bet for a while, though
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[15:14:16] markk: Chutt: so tegra3 might get some vdpau love?
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[15:52:52] taylorr: markk: there is one more libdvdnav commit that might be good to have -> http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/2093383
[15:53:02] iamlindoro: dblain: Well, after reading the uPnP ScheduledRecording spec, there are some actions which Myth lends itself to, and others which is doesn't. I plan to implement the ones which are relevant as part of the DVR Service. Specifically: CreateRecordSchedule, DeleteRecordSchedule, BrowseRecordSchedules, GetRecordSchedule, EnableRecordSchedule, and DisableRecordSchedule. That should be a good enough first pass for most people's purpose
[15:53:12] taylorr: markk: I can sync to the very latest if you'd like
[15:53:12] iamlindoro: taylorr: You're not cherry picking commits, right? You did a full resync?
[15:53:41] iamlindoro: (I did the last few resyncs and it's been painful sorting out which commits some people decided not to pull in)
[15:53:52] taylorr: full sync for master and only the bug fix commits for 0.24/fixes
[15:54:01] iamlindoro: ah, cool, great :)
[15:54:11] taylorr: I'll do the rest soon
[15:54:31] markk: taylorr: go for it:)
[15:55:18] markk: although I don't believe we actually try to recover from read errors. might have to have a look around...
[15:55:47] taylorr: libdvdread might need it though
[15:56:06] taylorr: markk: did the last sync help with any of your duds?
[15:56:17] markk: haven't had a chance to check yet
[15:57:27] taylorr: it'd be nice to have Erik Hovland more involved
[15:58:26] iamlindoro: He has been very generous in the past about offering to get any of our local changes upstream, and fixing any bugs we find
[15:58:50] iamlindoro: I didn't take him up on the divergences because I just plain didn't know why we have so many of them
[16:37:47] taylorr: iamlindoro: should we have the ChangeLog file in dvdnav and dvdread?
[16:38:31] iamlindoro: taylorr: Can't hurt, if they keep it up to date
[16:38:54] taylorr: they do seem to update it with information regarding release version info too
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[17:32:15] stuartm: markk: thanks
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[17:40:04] taylorr: iamlindoro: any reason why dvdnav/searching has diverted so much?
[17:40:47] taylorr: there are a bunch of NULL pointer checks we may have added but there are some real differences
[17:41:00] iamlindoro: taylorr: I'm not sure why, stanley added a number of things but he's been gone for a long while so I've never known why
[17:41:18] taylorr: we should revert and start from a clean slate
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[17:41:57] taylorr: given the number of problematic DVDs and the fact that Mark rewrote most of it I would imagine most of the changes are either unnecessary or plain wrong
[17:42:17] taylorr: it seems like we have more DVD playback issues than other players
[17:42:20] iamlindoro: Mark and I tried to do that a year or so ago-- he ended up readding a number of the hacks
[17:42:38] iamlindoro: hacks may not be the right term, they may well be worthwhile... in which case we should get them in upstream
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[17:43:01] taylorr: the problem is if you diverge from the original you should COMMMENT the code!
[17:43:08] iamlindoro: I just work here
[17:43:48] taylorr: that was to address others and they know who they are
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[17:51:49] taylorr: iamlindoro, markk: it looks like some serious divergences in the libdvd* code – like a bunch of changesets never got synced
[17:52:47] iamlindoro: At least some part of the divergences are to allow DVD-over-myth-proto, but that's the only one that's happened since I joined
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[18:01:02] taylorr: in dvdnav/searching.c it looks like Stanley added a more efficient search algorithm.... you gotta wonder how solid his implementation was and if it is really necessary
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[19:27:58] markk: taylorr: I'd forgotten about those search changes – may be worth running past erik again.
[19:28:09] markk: does anyone have a full diff against upstream?
[19:28:47] taylorr: markk: I don't have a full diff... just focusing on libdvdnav/src/searching.c for now
[19:30:05] markk: iirc the other major difference is the 'play from beginning' or something – that I removed and then realised was just what we needed:)
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