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| [00:59:15] | tgm4883: | mrand, are you pulling those dates from the wiki? |
| [00:59:27] | tgm4883: | 0.25 would have to be released by FF in order to get into 12.04 |
| [01:02:01] | tgm4883: | Beirdo, ok, so for that, I actually could tell you roughly how many 10.04 users are using 0.24 and 0.25 |
| [01:02:21] | tgm4883: | I couldn't tell you how many 10.04 users were using anything previous to 0.24.x |
| [01:03:13] | tgm4883: | and it's a rough number at best. What I would do is run a report that shows how many downloads happened on a particular day from one of the PPA's |
| [01:03:59] | Beirdo: | ah, cool |
| [01:04:13] | Beirdo: | that could be useful to know for an approximation |
| [01:04:23] | tgm4883: | let me see if I have the code locally, it would take about an hour to run |
| [01:05:35] | tgm4883: | and although it's not set in stone yet since UDS is next week. It looks like FF is Feb 16th, so 0.25 would have to be out by then |
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| [01:17:55] | Beirdo: | good to know |
| [01:20:16] | mrand: | tgm4883: march 1st was on a prelim schedule I found – but you're right... it is to be nailed down at UDS next week. |
| [01:20:47] | tgm4883: | mrand, ok |
| [01:20:51] | tgm4883: | mrand, I was looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule |
| [01:21:03] | tgm4883: | which is linked to from the UDS spec for next week |
| [01:38:42] | Captain_Murdoch: | I think we should hold off on requiring 4.7.x until after the next release, but that being said, I did find 4.7.4 RPMs for CentOS 5.x from the normal place I look at ftp.pramberger.at, but haven't installed them yet. |
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| [03:39:53] | tgm4883: | Beirdo, so it looks like most of our users (that use the PPA anyway) are using natty |
| [03:40:14] | tgm4883: | http://www.mythbuntu.org/ppa-distro-stats/stats.html |
| [03:40:22] | tgm4883: | http://www.mythbuntu.org/ppa-version-stats/stats.html |
| [03:41:04] | tgm4883: | I'd have to work with the raw data to try and pull info on just lucid users, even then you have to assume that they update mythtv less often |
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| [05:47:09] | superm1: | Beirdo, if you decided to make 4.7 mandatory, it could always be backported to ubuntu backports or even to a PPA for someone to get |
| [05:47:27] | superm1: | sure it's an extra step to enable, but it shouldn't be out of the question due to availability in ubuntu |
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| [08:54:29] | stuarta: | my take on Qt4.6 vs Qt4.7 comes from my desire to run my production backend on a stable system. It's up 24x7 so stability wins over latest features, not to mention it's a server so it doesn't need graphics etc. |
| [08:56:45] | stuarta: | that said for future installs i would pick ubuntu server, although probably not the LTS release |
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| [09:14:21] | markk: | there's no compelling need to move to qt 4.7 – as far as I can tell. sure – once in a while someone comes across some functionality that would be nice, but nothing that can't wait a little. |
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| [09:45:06] | stuarta: | that's certainly the way i see it |
| [09:51:23] | markk: | anyone else seeing the thread 'explosion' in mythfrontend at the moment? 0 to 50 threads in the blink of an eye at startup – most of them 'runnables'. My gut feeling is it's something to do with the mythui image loading – perhaps 02f8352b91d8f43f39 |
| [09:51:53] | markk: | Captain_Murdoch: ^^ |
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| [10:15:09] | stuarta: | ew.... |
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| [12:36:58] | stuartm: | stuarta: my argument is simply that any release of a major distro is stable, maybe not with a 99.99% stable guarantee for a corporate server room, but more than enough for a MythTV backend |
| [12:37:54] | stuarta: | that hold true for what you use, and debian, ubuntu, centos, redhat |
| [12:37:56] | stuartm: | but I know that argument falls on deaf ears ... |
| [12:38:08] | stuarta: | wouldn't neccessarily say that for fedora or gentoo |
| [12:38:28] | stuarta: | oh i agree with what you are saying for the majority of the distros |
| [12:39:03] | stuartm: | I use the latest mandriva, I'm confident that I could walk away from that machine now and that it would still be running fine a year from now |
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| [12:40:35] | stuartm: | I think too many people get hung up on the idea of LTS or so-called stable distros like CentOS which are designed for the really cautious corporate admins – I don't think that means we have to pander to those users |
| [12:42:14] | stuartm: | as it happens there's nothing really compelling in QT 4.7 to make this worth arguing about, but when that time comes it's going to be frustrating to overcome this stable distro rubbish |
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| [13:25:10] | Captain_Murdoch: | markk, that commit shouldn't have changed the threading in any way, what it did change was how we used the image loaded in the background thread for animated image files. if the threads aren't actually doing anything, maybe they're not being reused like they should. |
| [13:32:51] | Captain_Murdoch: | with the new logging, we can see the threads being used because of the threadRegister() and threadDeregister() calls, but I can't recall what command line incarnation to get to that specific info. |
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| [13:50:11] | sidewlk: | im having problems getting a card working in mythtv, it works in xawtv and tvscan can find channels on it, but mythtv doesnt find channels and it only gets blue or maybe waroftheants |
| [13:50:29] | sidewlk: | you guys know what it might be? |
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