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| [01:32:03] | taylorr: | for auto-deinterlacing we probably should treat anything ~24 fps as progressive including 480p recordings |
| [01:32:58] | taylorr: | so people who actually know what they are doing and properly detelecine a DVD get proper detection |
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| [02:05:07] | xris: | Beirdo: fwiw 3gp container is identical to mp4 in actual application |
| [02:16:15] | Beirdo: | yeah, I remember reading something like that. No harm in letting that one more container for the galleries anyways |
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| [02:39:41] | xris: | right |
| [02:40:03] | xris: | I just happened to run into that this week at work. allegedly 3gp is its own thing, but for all practical purposes it's identical to mp4 |
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| [03:05:25] | Chutt: | some atoms are different, and a few definitions were changed (most notably for cts/dts stuff). most parsers can handle both, some few can't. |
| [03:05:51] | Chutt: | (and if you add .mov in, that's also slightly different) |
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| [05:40:22] | AdaptiveSi: | has anyone compiled drivers for HVR-2200 (8953)? |
| [05:43:47] | AdaptiveSi: | anyone? |
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| [06:07:54] | xris: | AdaptiveSi: /topic ? |
| [06:08:18] | AdaptiveSi: | HVR-2200 |
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| [06:46:10] | xris: | AdaptiveSi: I meant: you might want to read the topic, so you could ask your question in the correct channel (where you are more likely to receive a reply). Though it's also late now, so you might want to wait for tomorrow. |
| [06:46:42] | AdaptiveSi: | well having a UNIVERSAL TIME would be nice :S:).. |
| [06:47:03] | xris: | can't help that most people who help out in IRC are in north america |
| [06:47:05] | AdaptiveSi: | it is related MythTV is where i started with this |
| [06:47:30] | AdaptiveSi: | figure another MythTV person might well have had the same issue :| |
| [06:48:32] | xris: | please re-read the topic. |
| [06:48:44] | xris: | this is the development channel. there is a separate channel for user support |
| [06:52:35] | AdaptiveSi: | it is for an unsupported card :S:) |
| [06:52:49] | AdaptiveSi: | and it isn't exactly a MythTV setup issue |
| [06:56:01] | xris: | it's not a "development of mythtv" issue either |
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| [06:56:21] | xris: | generally, unless you're talking about the mythtv code itself, it goes in the other channel |
| [06:56:45] | xris: | some leeway is granted to devs who forget which channel they're in and start talking about beer. :) |
| [06:58:12] | xris: | just saying. you're more likely to get a reply if you ask in the correct channel. best case here you get ignored. |
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| [07:25:40] | AdaptiveSi: | ok then no worries thanks... |
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| [11:34:25] | stuartm: | Beirdo: first two seasons of the West Wing are marked as progressive despite being interlaced, third season they got the scan type flag right but it's 16:9 in 4:3 so you've got wide black borders on all sides (auto-fill helps there) ... I dread to think what's going to be wrong with season 4 |
| [11:35:02] | stuartm: | anyhow, those SD deinterlacing changes are very welcome here :) |
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| [12:27:40] | justinh: | with the way some channels ping-pong between interlaced & progressive for 'more efficient encoding' it'll be welcome all round methinsk |
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| [17:12:46] | Beirdo: | stuartm: how odd, you'd think they'd get the flags and all correct, especially after a season or two of complaints. |
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| [17:29:59] | stuartm: | Beirdo: aye, though I suspect the volume of complaints was low because hardware DVD players are more tolerant of those sort of problems |
| [17:30:30] | Beirdo: | yeah, I'm more worried... well wondering... what will happen with true 480p from an HDHR or the like |
| [17:30:44] | Beirdo: | but still, if it gets needlessly deinterlaced, meh |
| [17:30:45] | stuartm: | besides which, I can't remember seeing a DVD cover which has a "please address complaints to ..." line, I wouldn't know where to send one :) |
| [17:30:54] | Beirdo: | still looks better than interlaced |
| [17:30:59] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:31:17] | Beirdo: | please send all complaints to /dev/null |
| [17:31:54] | Beirdo: | I'm not sure how many of my recordings end up being 480p anyways, but I think there are some |
| [17:32:02] | Beirdo: | BBCA may be one |
| [17:32:07] | stuartm: | Beirdo: well since Daniel and I were both having problems with DVD maybe it could be limited to those if we get negative feedback for progressive SD recordings (shouldn't happen in PAL land at least) |
| [17:32:22] | Beirdo: | true. Let's see what happens :) |
| [17:33:24] | Beirdo: | it's a good idea to work around screwy media as long as it doesn't overwhelm us, and make the normal case too hard to deal with |
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| [18:10:58] | taylorr: | stuartm, Beirdo: we should probably only apply the deinterlace everything to DVD playback only |
| [18:11:17] | taylorr: | then we don't have to worry about videos and recordings having issues |
| [18:22:46] | Beirdo: | taylorr: yeah, that would likely be a good compromise |
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| [19:19:26] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: warpme's hard locks are bogus is some way-- he claims it also affects MNV but that is 100% different grabbing/XML parsing... MythNews uses the old HTTPComms stuff, MNV uses MythDownloadManager... mythnews does some very basic RSS parsing, MNV's is different code and way more complete |
| [19:20:02] | Beirdo: | the only thing I can see in common is the browser code. |
| [19:20:12] | Beirdo: | in particular, something like Flash messing with him |
| [19:20:13] | iamlindoro: | But that code isn't used |
| [19:20:17] | iamlindoro: | He's talking about the UI |
| [19:20:21] | iamlindoro: | not the browser |
| [19:20:24] | Beirdo: | Hmm, right |
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| [19:20:51] | Beirdo: | either way, let's have a new ticket rather than reopening a 16-month closed one :) |
| [19:21:19] | Beirdo: | it sounded bogus to me too |
| [19:22:04] | iamlindoro: | Also, MythNews pulls from RSS on demand, MNV, pulls from the DB |
| [19:22:20] | Beirdo: | the only way to hardlock the system is in a device driver, whether a video capture card or video output. If that were to happen, I'd expect to see it in normal playback, not on news/mnv |
| [19:22:28] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [19:22:49] | Beirdo: | now deadlocks or long spinning loops... that could happen. |
| [19:23:05] | Beirdo: | we have had our share of those in the past :) |
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| [21:12:12] | jpabq_: | stuartm, Using QTextLayout in mythuitext is looking good. I believe I have everything working, except for support of outline/shadow text. I am not sure how I am going to pull those off. |
| [21:12:44] | jpabq_: | Actually, saying I am "not sure" is incorrect. At present, I have not idea. |
| [21:12:53] | jpabq_: | s/not/no/ |
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| [21:31:22] | taylorr: | jpabq_: how fast is a channel change for you using DirecTV... it take around 12–15 seconds here |
| [21:31:59] | Beirdo: | never timed it here, but I'd guestimate 8–10s or so, so in line with what you're seeing |
| [21:32:30] | jpabq_: | taylorr: last time I timed it, it was around 10–12 seconds, but it has been awhile. |
| [21:33:35] | jpabq_: | It would be a couple of seconds faster, if I didn't *need* to add 2 seconds, to make sure the audio gets synced up. |
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