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| [01:25:21] | taylorr: | gigem: give this a shot -> http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/2082607 |
| [01:27:08] | taylorr: | fyi, any type of timestamp discontinuation will break this hack but if watching broadcast streams you should rarely find a problem |
| [01:38:37] | Beirdo: | how are things going? |
| [01:38:53] | taylorr: | you asking me? |
| [01:39:03] | Beirdo: | yup :) |
| [01:39:14] | Beirdo: | been a while and all, ya know :) |
| [01:39:31] | taylorr: | slacker :) |
| [01:39:37] | Beirdo: | I took a break for a bit to let my brain unwind, but it's time to get back to fixing bugs, etc. |
| [01:39:42] | Beirdo: | aye, so true |
| [01:40:10] | taylorr: | I'm working on proper duration/position code and support for forced subtitles support |
| [01:40:26] | Beirdo: | Ooooh, that sounds painful. And useful |
| [01:40:44] | taylorr: | not bad really |
| [01:40:56] | taylorr: | not much time is the problem |
| [01:41:07] | Beirdo: | well, I guess if you have your brain wrapped around it already, it wouldn't be too bad :) |
| [01:41:24] | Beirdo: | time is always the issue, isn't it? |
| [01:41:39] | Beirdo: | let me know if you need anything tested that I could help ya with. |
| [01:42:39] | taylorr: | I figured out how to obtain the repeat_pict field in the recorder, I now just need to add code to track the duration and then store it to the database when finished recording |
| [01:43:06] | taylorr: | then need to stores total_frames in the database for the recorder and commflagger |
| [01:43:14] | Beirdo: | nice. That's caused us a lot of pain in the past, not reading it correctly, etc. |
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| [02:39:22] | jafa: | hi guys |
| [02:39:41] | Beirdo: | heya |
| [02:40:14] | jafa: | DVB-T/DVC-C SDT tables... found a location sending strings where the first character which indicates the character set is 0x15 |
| [02:40:33] | jafa: | the standard I have only goes up to 0x14 |
| [02:40:55] | jafa: | wondering is anyone might know about a 0x15 first char in a SDT string |
| [02:41:00] | Beirdo: | interesting |
| [02:41:27] | Beirdo: | I'd expect that maybe stuartm or stuarta might be closer to those details than many of us |
| [02:42:45] | jafa: | just added support for Ukraine to the HDHomeRun firmware |
| [02:44:08] | jafa: | i will look up where this 0x15 is coming from |
| [02:44:17] | Beirdo: | nice. Keep up the good work :) |
| [02:54:44] | jafa: | looks like it is from Portugal |
| [03:10:20] | jafa: | after the 0x15 first char the string looks like normal ASCII (1 byte per character) |
| [03:10:48] | jafa: | 5 channel names... none have characters above 0x80 |
| [03:12:23] | jafa: | Portugal char sets: unicode, iso-8859–1 and iso 8859–15 |
| [03:14:32] | jafa: | iso-8859–1 is normal Latin so doesn't need a first-char code |
| [03:15:09] | jafa: | iso8859–15 should have a first code of 0x0B |
| [03:16:03] | jafa: | maybe 0x15 is a mistake and they mean iso8859–15 |
| [03:18:41] | jafa: | station names are RTP 1, RTP 2, SIC, TVI, and HD |
| [03:23:16] | jafa: | found it |
| [03:23:24] | jafa: | newer version of the sandard |
| [03:23:30] | jafa: | 0x15 means UTF8 |
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| [03:47:06] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [03:47:42] | Beirdo: | we probably will start to see it more often then, I'd imagine |
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| [04:16:04] | gigem: | taylorr: will try to check out tomorrow, but no promises. it's been a bad weekend so far and i need to look into a glitch in my ff/rew changes first. |
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| [06:33:28] | wagnerrp: | dblain: reading through the wsdl pages, were returning "http://mythtv.org/<Service>/<Operation>" for soapAction |
| [06:33:49] | wagnerrp: | should we be returning a link to the local backend rather than mythtv.org? |
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| [14:18:02] | jafa: | hi guys |
| [14:18:11] | jafa: | checking in regarding libhdhomerun changes |
| [14:18:28] | iamlindoro: | hi jafa |
| [14:18:39] | jafa: | hi |
| [14:19:12] | iamlindoro: | I have the latest couple sitting in my local tree, but the current set of changes didnt' seem especially critical to us (the oob graph, etc) |
| [14:19:53] | jafa: | is there anything we should be adding to libhdhomerun? |
| [14:19:54] | iamlindoro: | So was just waiting for a sensible time to resync, and knew you had a new stable release coming up |
| [14:20:12] | jafa: | formal release should be out later today |
| [14:20:27] | iamlindoro: | the only stuff that occurs to me off the top of my head is the ability to differentiate between the models, and the ability to detect the presence of a cablecard |
| [14:20:48] | iamlindoro: | With the latter being more critical to me so that I can straighten out the scanning versus channel download behavior |
| [14:21:17] | jafa: | the trick is to read /oob/status |
| [14:21:30] | jafa: | if var not found then non-CC model |
| [14:21:44] | jafa: | if var found but ch=none then CC model without a card |
| [14:22:28] | jafa: | libhdhomerun has an API for reading /oob/status, however mythtv code was written before the device API |
| [14:22:48] | jafa: | at some point we need to update mythtv to use the device api... then things like tuner locking will work |
| [14:23:32] | iamlindoro: | Would be nice if the cablecard presence was a part of the hdhomerun_discover_device_t struct |
| [14:23:55] | iamlindoro: | rather than having to get it in a custom way-- but if it's possible one way or another, that's enough I suppose |
| [14:24:33] | iamlindoro: | I'll have a look at reading that var later today |
| [14:25:01] | jafa: | discover... might make sense |
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| [15:43:59] | dblain: | wagnerrp: The soap action includes the namespace of the action, not the server name. I decided that the default namespace for all service classes/methods would be mythtv.org |
| [15:44:25] | dblain: | wagnerrp: Also, keep in mind that the current wsdl code is not rendering correct xml yet. |
| [15:45:25] | wagnerrp: | well it can be handled without issue with py-lxml... thats good enough for me |
| [15:45:27] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [15:45:55] | wagnerrp: | im actually looking to expand the python bindings with a series of classes similar to how i set up database access |
| [15:46:23] | wagnerrp: | with database access, classes automatically configure themselves based off the table fields and keys defined in the database |
| [15:46:43] | wagnerrp: | i wanted to have the objects and functions auto-configure themselves based off the data retrieved from the wsdl pages |
| [15:48:24] | dblain: | glad the current wsdl works for you. So would your objects/functions call the service api or you're just using them for the prototype definition? |
| [15:48:49] | wagnerrp: | the idea would be for both |
| [15:49:15] | wagnerrp: | be a basic framework for all of the functionality provided by the services api |
| [15:49:32] | wagnerrp: | that could then be used directly, or built on top of for more complex functions |
| [15:49:50] | dblain: | excellent... let me know if you run into any issues with the wsdl or api. I may be able to find some time to help if the need arises. |
| [15:50:20] | wagnerrp: | will do |
| [15:50:34] | wagnerrp: | i was just looking at that field last night |
| [15:50:51] | wagnerrp: | and it seemed like it should return the address to the actual server |
| [15:51:15] | wagnerrp: | but i guess not |
| [15:51:29] | dblain: | Since you're calling the server to get the wsdl, you already know what the server name is :) |
| [15:51:35] | wagnerrp: | fair enough |
| [15:52:27] | dblain: | It's meant to help with name collision. It makes sure all services / methods have a unique namespace. |
| [15:52:59] | dblain: | That way any code generated from the wsdl can be used to call any instance of the service on any machine. |
| [15:53:24] | wagnerrp: | ah |
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| [16:29:13] | jafa: | iamlindoro – thinking through what mythtv is actually looking for... |
| [16:29:32] | jafa: | card vs no card? or tune by vchannel supported vs not supported? etc |
| [16:30:16] | jafa: | for example it would in theory be possible to add vchannel support to non-card models |
| [16:30:52] | jafa: | doesn't matter for DVRs but lightweight viewers like iPad and Android it is nice to connect and watch, not have to scan on every device |
| [16:32:21] | iamlindoro: | jafa: I suppose "supports vchannel" would be functionally the same for what I've got in mind |
| [16:32:28] | iamlindoro: | so either way works for me |
| [16:32:49] | jafa: | for the moment I would recommend a tickbox for the user to specify if a card is installed rather than auto detecting |
| [16:34:08] | iamlindoro: | Why a tickbox versus detection? |
| [16:34:51] | iamlindoro: | Adding yet more settings if we can avoid them would bum me out |
| [16:37:04] | jafa: | is the quicktune option still there? |
| [16:37:13] | iamlindoro: | yes, quicktune is still there |
| [16:39:11] | jafa: | bit of a mess – if atsc/clearqam+multirec then need to use MythTV native handling + scan, if atsc/clearqam single-program then should use frequency/program quicktune + scan, if card present then should use vchannel quicktune (which happens by default if you pull the guide and don't scan) |
| [16:40:27] | jafa: | could make the options Multirec, QuickTune, CableCARD |
| [16:42:33] | iamlindoro: | This is indeed starting to sound like a mess |
| [16:42:39] | iamlindoro: | As my hope was to make it all transparent to the user |
| [16:43:28] | jafa: | if we go the transparent direction, can we nuke the quicktune option – always use quicktune if multirec not enabled |
| [16:44:38] | iamlindoro: | I am not sure there is an easy way to tell if multirec is enabled, aside from counting the instances of a card by device node in the DB |
| [16:45:40] | jafa: | ah, ok... i don't use the feature myself |
| [16:47:02] | jafa: | for ATSC it isn't likely that you will be recording two sub programs, for ClearQAM yes but PITA to get the channels right... jump to CableCARD and the problem is solved |
| [16:48:19] | jafa: | internally we have been talking about getting the HDHomeRun to report virtual channel numbers in ClearQAM mode based on periodically syncing with our lineup server (optional opt-in service) |
| [16:48:52] | iamlindoro: | What would the data source for the virtual channel be without an OOB tuner? |
| [16:49:06] | iamlindoro: | or use cablecard tuners to seed the data for non cablecard ones? |
| [16:49:10] | jafa: | our lineup server is starting to get better data |
| [16:52:06] | jafa: | we could add a "vchannel" entry to /sys/features, though everything currently in /sys/features is static |
| [16:53:04] | jafa: | don't really want to add a new top level var class just to report "card present" |
| [16:54:23] | iamlindoro: | well, I suppose there are a number of pieces of data relavant to a cablecard that might be nice to have |
| [16:54:45] | iamlindoro: | card present, card activated, card authenticated, last channel map received, etc. |
| [16:55:17] | iamlindoro: | that said, I am starting to scratch my head as it seems like accomplishing what I had wanted to is going to be more problematic than I had expected |
| [16:56:00] | iamlindoro: | I mostly wanted a user to be able to set up any HDHomeRun the same exact way, and present them only with the option to scan or download channels, whichever was appropriate for their configuration |
| [16:57:07] | jafa: | would be nice |
| [16:57:35] | iamlindoro: | The alternative is to add another card type, which is something else I had looked at doing |
| [16:57:47] | iamlindoro: | but a little icky |
| [16:59:19] | iamlindoro: | The UI part is fairly easy, in a worst case scenario I could query the /oob/status for the var you mentioned and present the right scanning options, disable the max tuners widget, etc. |
| [16:59:30] | iamlindoro: | It's the utility functions for cards that get tricky |
| [16:59:58] | iamlindoro: | where a card being "HDHOMERUN" is used as a determining factor in whether it's scanable, etc. |
| [17:00:14] | iamlindoro: | Using a different card type would solve that |
| [17:00:14] | jafa: | common card type is much cleaner |
| [17:00:25] | iamlindoro: | Definitely |
| [17:00:26] | jafa: | from the user/UI pov |
| [17:00:49] | iamlindoro: | There are a ton of small quick DB gets that need thinking about |
| [17:01:15] | iamlindoro: | since if HDHOMERUN != HDHOMERUN, those gets become a lot slower if you need to open the device and check out its capabilities every time |
| [17:02:04] | iamlindoro: | That said, there's a couple of precedents for doing so, like CardUtil::HDHRDoesDVB |
| [17:02:28] | iamlindoro: | so anyway, if I can at least get *some* way to figure out if a card is present, I can probably get something working |
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| [17:06:21] | xavierh: | Hi, if I was to change some code for lirc in mythtv, who should I talk to? |
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| [17:15:10] | stuartm: | xavierh: Daniel K |
| [17:16:40] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: might want to hand off ownership of #10053 then |
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| [17:33:17] | xavierh: | stuartm: thx. when is he around ? |
| [17:33:48] | xavierh: | I found some strange code in it |
| [17:34:25] | xavierh: | and the lirc_client is outdated, I as thinking of updating it |
| [17:34:32] | xavierh: | s/as/was |
| [17:35:37] | xavierh: | It does use a config file at /etc/lircrc wich does not exist anymore, I beleive it have been replace by /etc/lirc/dircd.conf |
| [17:35:50] | xavierh: | s/dirc/lirc |
| [17:36:48] | xavierh: | And the dev is taking from here now, we don't need to pass the /dev/lircd anymore, but maybe there is a reason for it |
| [17:39:38] | xavierh: | btw #10053, is just a proof of concept, I started to make the lirc code as a plugin |
| [17:45:49] | stuartm: | xavierh: Daniel modified the lirc client code to support multiple lirc devices or something like that |
| [17:47:50] | xavierh: | What is the purpose of it? |
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| [18:02:05] | ** stuartm shrugs ** | |
| [18:02:34] | stuartm: | I suggest looking at the commit logs for those files |
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| [18:29:45] | xavierh: | Ok, I have seen it thx |
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| [19:02:45] | jafa: | iamlindoro – guessing the logic will be based on "card present" and not care about finer points like authenticated etc |
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| [19:52:27] | jafa: | i have added a var /card/status... amongst other things it returns card=[none|not-ready|ready] |
| [19:53:00] | jafa: | ready means authenticated, oob lock ok, and virtual channel tables present |
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| [21:26:47] | xris: | Beirdo: I have a libmpeg2 installed on my mythbox. you think there is a chance it linked against my system library instead of the one in the mythtv code tree? |
| [21:30:56] | xris: | iamlindoro: which file has the meta data filename format in it? I want to add title.s##e##.episode.suffix |
| [21:31:53] | wagnerrp: | xris: thats supported already |
| [21:33:52] | xris: | huh. something's not detecting a bunch of my stuff |
| [21:34:38] | xris: | started archiving a bunch of stuff for my kid. curious_george/curious_george.s01e07.buoy_wonder.m4v |
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| [21:34:52] | xris: | would think it could pick that up |
| [21:35:19] | xris: | even after manually setting inetref (tvdb actually lists them as "curious george 2006") |
| [21:44:06] | Beirdo: | xris: yeah, it's possible |
| [21:46:55] | Beirdo: | ldd should show if it is the case, I would think |
| [21:48:34] | xris: | mythbackend? |
| [21:49:01] | xris: | looks like none of them link to anything 'mpeg" |
| [21:55:41] | Beirdo: | interesting |
| [21:56:06] | Beirdo: | unless they linked to a .a rather than a .so, but that would be odd |
| [21:56:34] | Beirdo: | not sure where else to look for those messages, as you said, they don't exist in the source tree at all |
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| [22:04:38] | xris: | guess I compile | grep libmpeg2 |
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| [22:07:10] | Beirdo: | there's something in configure for using an external libmpeg2, I believe |
| [22:07:23] | Beirdo: | not sure if the RPM is using that or not |
| [22:07:39] | Beirdo: | sorry, was off reading crap on facebook :) |
| [22:08:11] | xris: | doesn't look like it |
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| [22:08:53] | Beirdo: | wonder WTF that's coming from then |
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| [22:22:19] | xris: | nothing |
| [22:22:22] | xris: | weird |
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| [22:52:14] | wagnerrp: | so 480i recordings marked as 480p outnumber 480p recordings 10:0? |
| [22:52:36] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: those are rather poor odds for a false positive |
| [22:54:34] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [22:54:46] | Beirdo: | it seems that way |
| [22:54:52] | wagnerrp: | bordering on impossible, even |
| [22:55:08] | Beirdo: | I think he meant 10:1 :) |
| [22:56:34] | Beirdo: | I should slap together a nice little script that will create stats of recording codec, size, audio codec, etc for all my recordings |
| [22:57:11] | wagnerrp: | we should slap together a nice little library that would do so and call it at the end of recording |
| [22:57:25] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah |
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