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| [12:19:44] | stuartm: | dekarl: I think it's now a certainty that we'll be dropping the time search screen entirely and adding a 'jump to time' feature in the guide grid instead |
| [12:28:06] | dekarl: | stuartm: Thats sad, I liked it. I don't really understand the code around the searches, but the change should speed up every search that involves lots of programs as result. |
| [12:29:24] | sphery: | dekarl: would be interesting, too, to know if the screen is faster after the subtitle/description indices were added in d9fb21853 (just a couple hours ago) |
| [12:29:44] | sphery: | like without your patch and with just the new indices |
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| [12:32:52] | stuartm: | dekarl: we can't really think of what it offers that the guide doesn't, except maybe more channels visible at a time |
| [12:32:52] | dekarl: | sphery: I'll retest once it hits the mythbuntu ppa ;) |
| [12:34:51] | stuartm: | conversely it adds more code and clutter to the menu structure (we want to merge the other search screens into one) |
| [12:36:05] | dekarl: | stuartm: it's just the unfiltered list of upcoming programs. Matching the style of all the searches |
| [12:36:35] | dekarl: | isn't the search always some kind of time search with additional filters? |
| [12:40:31] | stuartm: | dekarl: I'm thinking mostly of the supporting dialog(s), e.g. the one to select the time to list from |
| [12:41:34] | stuartm: | there may be a way to incorporate it into the unified search screen if enough people are attached to that feature |
| [12:42:33] | dekarl: | I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing. The screen I'm talking about is always "starttime > now() truncated to the last full hour" |
| [12:42:48] | stuartm: | I'd prefer not to have too many ways to present the same information though, there is a lot to be said for keeping the UI since |
| [12:42:53] | stuartm: | dekarl: hit MENU |
| [12:46:41] | dekarl: | ahhh, Searchtext is a selection for days/times |
| [12:46:50] | stuartm: | The 'Choose Search Phrase' popup is actually supposed to be displayed when you first enter any screen, although that's not the case atm |
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| [12:49:19] | dekarl: | I find the presentation of upcoming programs as a list easier to view compared to the guide grid. It all depends on good data quality. Once I can just record "all movies with a good rating in HD" and similar I'm going to go to the time search less often. |
| [12:50:44] | dekarl: | But that's a luxury I get for massaging my guide to match MythTVs usage patterns (which seem to be coming from the zap2it data) |
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| [12:58:32] | stuartm: | the only search I use with any regularity is the Film Search |
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| [18:24:25] | taylorr: | oh no – they're complaining that they need a seektable built for matroska |
| [18:26:20] | taylorr: | wagnerrp: fyi, seektables are not only faster but provide proper seeking for videos with timestamp discontinuities plus it handles videos with repeated frames and variable frame rate better |
| [18:26:52] | taylorr: | the only containers that support discontinuities are MPEG-TS and MPEG-PS |
| [18:30:00] | taylorr: | the reason that seektables handle repeated frames and variable frame rates better is that the table stores the correct byte position for the frame number – if time based seeking is performed the conversion between frame number and time is totally busted |
| [18:30:08] | taylorr: | I hope to address this at some point |
| [18:33:04] | MythBuild: | build #39 of master-vista-mingw-32bit is complete: Failure [failed configure] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . it/builds/39 blamelist: Michael T. Dean <mdean@mythtv.org > |
| [18:34:03] | wagnerrp: | taylorr: theres also a bit of confusion where the user thinks hes having trouble with an mkv file, but the logs report an mpeg recording |
| [18:38:18] | Beirdo: | sphery: way to go :) |
| [18:38:19] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:38:51] | wagnerrp: | at least it failed on configure, rather than half an hour into the compile |
| [18:39:12] | Beirdo: | true :) |
| [18:39:13] | taylorr: | wagnerrp: at any rate, byte seeking isn't support by libav for matroska so a seek table should never be used |
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| [18:40:20] | wagnerrp: | makes you wonder what he was talking about, when he claims building tables for his mkvs helped |
| [18:41:46] | taylorr: | yeah, that usually will hang on a seek :) |
| [18:45:20] | sphery: | didn't you make it so --rebuild/--build-index do nothing on mkv's? |
| [18:45:31] | sphery: | I thought I remembered you adding that before |
| [18:45:37] | iamlindoro: | yes, I recall that as well |
| [18:46:18] | sphery: | Beirdo: the weird thing is that it's failing on 4038, which is a line that was there, before--the QtWebKit check |
| [18:46:52] | Beirdo: | that's not failing |
| [18:47:01] | Beirdo: | that's just saying it can't fine pkg-config |
| [18:47:04] | sphery: | ah, yeah |
| [18:47:07] | Beirdo: | it carries on past that |
| [18:47:26] | sphery: | can I get the config.ep from the build? |
| [18:47:44] | sphery: | likely just a linker issue |
| [18:47:56] | Beirdo: | one moment |
| [18:50:48] | Beirdo: | http://www.beirdo.ca/~gjhurlbu/test/config.ep |
| [18:52:25] | taylorr: | sphery, iamlindoro: no I didn't restrict seek table building for formats that don't support TS discontinuities |
| [18:52:40] | taylorr: | according to a user they are required now for MKV :) |
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| [18:53:05] | taylorr: | sphery: why was the arrow accelerators removed – just curious? |
| [18:53:58] | sphery: | because it doesn't work consistently in themes--for example, horizontally arranged menus... it works only in some dialogs and only with some widget types |
| [18:54:46] | sphery: | basically, we had a partial implementation and it didn't work properly, so I removed it until someone decides to do an implementation that works the same regardless of theme (and at that point, we shouldn't be asking the user if they want it or not--it should either be enabled or not enabled) |
| [19:05:31] | taylorr: | makes sense |
| [19:06:55] | sphery: | I have to admit that I was still trying to use it--and found it upsetting because I never remembered where it did work and where it didn't. So, this approach will make me learn to do without (and should actually improve my efficiency in navigating since I won't try the old way and find it doesn't work for whatever I'm doing). |
| [19:07:56] | sphery: | and, FWIW, I didn't hate the feature--I have always had it enabled since I started with MythTV. But I do hate the lack of consistency in the implementation. |
| [19:16:56] | MythBuild: | build #41 of master-vista-mingw-32bit is complete: Exception [exception git] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . it/builds/41 blamelist: Gavin Hurlbut <ghurlbut@mythtv.org > |
| [19:17:31] | Beirdo: | MythBuild: force build master-vista-mingw-32bit because I'm an idiot |
| [19:17:31] | MythBuild: | Something bad happened (see logs): <type 'exceptions.ValueError'> |
| [19:17:41] | Beirdo: | MythBuild: force build master-vista-mingw-32bit because I am an idiot |
| [19:17:41] | MythBuild: | build forced [ETA 1h23m58s] |
| [19:17:41] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
| [19:17:50] | Beirdo: | hehe, it doens't like ' in the reason |
| [19:20:42] | MythBuild: | Hey! build master-vista-mingw-32bit #42 is complete: Failure [failed configure] |
| [19:20:42] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . it/builds/42 |
| [19:28:09] | ** Beirdo kicks MythBuild in the nuts ** | |
| [19:28:45] | Beirdo: | I'm gonna let that sit borked for the moment (Windows build only) until the end of the work day, then pound on it again. |
| [19:31:40] | Beirdo: | unless I stumble across the fix |
| [19:33:40] | sphery: | hehe, sorry for the bad timing on that change, and thanks for trying to fix it for me. |
| [19:34:04] | Beirdo: | no problem. mingw is a bit of a finnicky bitch, not your fault |
| [19:36:43] | Beirdo: | and just so it doesn't try to autobuild while I try something, taking the slave offline for a moment |
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| [20:45:01] | Beirdo: | MythBuild: force build master-vista-mingw-32bit now |
| [20:45:02] | MythBuild: | build forced [ETA 1h23m58s] |
| [20:45:02] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
| [20:45:12] | Beirdo: | let's try with pkg-config installed |
| [20:45:30] | Beirdo: | painful mofo, needs glib and gettext |
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| [20:50:16] | MythBuild: | Hey! build master-vista-mingw-32bit #44 is complete: Failure [failed configure] |
| [20:50:17] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . it/builds/44 |
| [20:50:55] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [20:57:50] | ** iamlindoro kicks Qt settings in the nuts ** | |
| [20:58:20] | iamlindoro: | Nothing worse than having a nice little feature done, and being hamstrung by trying to do settings in Qt that are easily doable in MythUI |
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| [21:09:40] | sphery: | how much easier? like enough to make up for the effort of just converting frontend settings to mythui? If so, ... |
| [21:10:07] | iamlindoro: | it's mythtv-setup |
| [21:10:37] | iamlindoro: | Though it has occurred to me to just implement in the BE setup and leave mythtv-setup alone |
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| [21:35:14] | stuartm: | we're missing a trick not having a --status arg to mythbackend, something that can be quickly checked on the command line to see whether a backend is recording, due to record soon or sitting idle |
| [21:39:02] | sphery: | or in mythutil :) |
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| [22:27:48] | ** stuarta yawns ** | |
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| [22:43:43] | stuartm: | are we keeping you up? |
| [22:45:13] | stuarta: | nah, doing infrastructure upgrades and getting bored waiting for stuff to happen |
| [22:46:09] | stuarta: | so far i've spend nearly 3 hrs on step 1 "backup" |
| [22:47:51] | stuartm: | no incremental backups? |
| [22:48:03] | stuarta: | not useful |
| [22:48:16] | stuarta: | it's a complete major version upgrade |
| [22:48:26] | stuarta: | with server migration thrown in for fun |
| [22:48:42] | stuarta: | so a DB backup + config backup |
| [22:49:01] | stuarta: | +fanny about with pre-req packages on the new server |
| [22:49:23] | stuarta: | not to mention security policies which deny just about everything |
| [22:51:20] | stuartm: | sounds like a lot of fun |
| [22:51:37] | stuarta: | aye. pays the bills |
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