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Friday, July 8th, 2011, 00:02 UTC
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[00:31:09] wagnerrp: xris: the biggest motivation to rewrite mythweb with its own web server
[00:31:30] wagnerrp: you get rid of all these tickets and complaints of people being unable to get mythweb working with lighttpd or apache/cgi
[00:32:00] xris: wagnerrp: yup
[00:32:36] xris: mythweb running under multiproc paste (pretty much built into pyramid) would solve that.
[00:33:07] xris: could even run it from within a virtualenv with a build script to make sure all of the setup.py requirements are installed, etc.
[00:35:21] xris: the trick is finding time amid every other project I'm working on
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[01:09:37] ** dblain wonders if the embedded html server in the backend is fast enough to host mythweb. (it's not python, but it does support server side javascript and has direct access to all/any qobject classes) **
[01:11:06] wagnerrp: well if it supports server side php, were golden
[01:11:49] dblain: it could, but I thougth xris wanted to rewrite it in python, hence my python reference.
[01:12:08] wagnerrp: more just musings
[01:12:13] dblain: :)
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[01:45:05] xris: dblain: I don't want to have to write C++ stuff to handle page rendering, or that would be more tempting.
[01:45:25] wagnerrp: page rendering is all javascript
[01:45:29] wagnerrp: data access is c++
[01:47:03] wagnerrp: Captain_Murdoch: it looks like in order to use cookies with MythDownloadManager, i need to fabricate my own QNetworkRequests?
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[01:55:28] xris: wagnerrp: sounds like a mess if there's no html
[01:55:50] wagnerrp: well javascript AND html
[01:55:58] xris: heh
[01:56:24] dblain: xris, I added php like syntax so you would write html like normal with imbedded server side javascript
[01:56:25] xris: sometimes it's nice to control parts of page rendering with non-javascript
[01:56:29] wagnerrp: the web page is located in share/html, and can be updated without a recompile
[01:56:44] xris: dblain: gotcha.
[01:56:49] wagnerrp: share/mythtv/html, rather
[01:57:15] xris: ... then again, I spent my day working in phonegap.. which which really doesn't have any backend code except for hardware interaction.
[01:57:40] wagnerrp: i will admit, javascript and DOM manipulation gets a bit tedious
[01:57:49] xris: using jquery?
[01:57:53] dblain: yes
[01:57:55] wagnerrp: yeah
[01:57:58] xris: at least that helps a bit
[01:58:09] dblain: wagnerrp: why DOM? with native json now, no need for DOM
[01:58:21] xris: dblain: to move around parts of the page?
[01:58:31] xris: build menus, etc.
[01:58:41] wagnerrp: right, you need DOM to actually manipulate the HTML
[01:58:43] dblain: duh, I was think xml dom not html dom.
[01:58:48] xris: heh
[01:59:02] xris: afk, kid time.
[02:55:42] Captain_Murdoch: wagnerrp, yeah, I wanted to add native support for a cookiejar but haven't got around to it yet.
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[03:09:23] quentusrex_: Anyone know what would cause 'error opening jump program file buffer' problems when trying to change the channel?
[03:10:26] quentusrex_: Does changing the channel display number cause a problem with being able to watch the channel?
[03:11:12] iamlindoro: wrong channel, see topic
[03:13:25] wagnerrp: Beirdo: ^^^
[03:13:41] wagnerrp: no mythdownloadmanager in mythfilldatabase until we get cookie support
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[03:40:09] Beirdo: wagnerrp: yah, I knew there was something not completely trivial blocking it :)
[03:40:52] Beirdo: may not be hard in the end, but it'll take some thinking
[03:46:07] xris: wget cookie jar is easy enough
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[03:48:52] Beirdo: the idea is to not use wget anymore though
[03:50:58] xris: LWP, then.  ;)
[03:51:06] xris: but yeah, that makes sense, then.
[03:51:14] xris: would be nice if we didn't shell out to wget
[03:51:53] xris: man, mfdb is another piece that kormoc and I were going to try to get more efficient as part of the program info table cleanup.
[03:51:55] Beirdo: I would think it shouldn't be too hard to get the support in. I'd hope not :) Heck, even Ruby can do that well :)
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[06:47:33] anykey_: any chance the patch from #7486 will get in soon?
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[07:14:41] anykey_: I have an updated one that applies cleanly against fixes/0.24 and I could probably look into 0.25 as well
[07:23:56] Beirdo: if you have an updated patch, that would certainly make it a lot easier to get the ticket worked on
[07:25:01] Beirdo: I just unlocked it so a new patch can be uploaded
[07:25:17] anykey_: shall I upload the patch for 0.24? or work on the one for head?
[07:26:23] Beirdo: whichever works for you. Working off master is better, but I'm sure it can be worked with if based on 0.24-fixes
[07:27:15] anykey_: ok, i'm currently testing the one for 0.24 but I think I'll be able to get one for master too, after all it's not that big...
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[07:49:41] anykey_: Beirdo: thanks for unlocking :)
[07:50:44] Beirdo: no problemo
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[13:10:24] Captain_Murdoch: wagnerrp, Beirdo, from what I recall from when I looked into it, adding cookiejar support to MDM was rather trivial, I just hadn't got around to it yet. trying to tackle one or more of my bugs/tickets (like the theme chooser download issue on remote FE's) first, but time has been limited lately.
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[16:30:25] Beirdo: Captain_Murdoch: not a problem :) It will get done soon enough
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[17:20:23] paul-h: I use cookies in MythUIWebBrowser which also uses MDM to do file downloads and it just worked without problems once I figured out that both QNetworkAccessManagers needed to share a common cookiejar
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[17:53:59] wagnerrp: stuartm: if you have no reservations, i want to go ahead implement the ' — <options>' syntax in mythfilldatabase, and close that ticket out
[17:54:20] wagnerrp: its been a couple weeks, and i havent heard any discussion to the otherwise
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[18:42:08] wagnerrp: stuartm: #9853 is closed for now, with the aforementioned behavior
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[22:11:10] noisymouse: mythbackend's init script claims it has connected correctly, but the frontend says the backend isn't running
[22:12:02] noisymouse: and I can't find mythbackend with ps aux
[22:12:05] kormoc: noisymouse, wrong channel, you want #mythtv-users
[22:12:13] noisymouse: argh, sry ok
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