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| [02:42:00] | superm1: | this new mythmetadatalookup, should it be with frontends or backends or both? |
| [03:00:25] | wagnerrp: | where ever the jobqueue is |
| [03:00:32] | wagnerrp: | so likely both |
| [03:00:43] | superm1: | ok |
| [03:10:48] | wagnerrp: | xris, Beirdo: i want to put up a pastebin and filebin for use with trac, for stuff that is too large to attach |
| [03:11:26] | wagnerrp: | although im thinking any files should be passworded so only devs can download, to prevent abuse |
| [03:11:47] | wagnerrp: | any opinions, preferred applications? |
| [03:12:32] | Beirdo: | sounds reasonable to me. Preferrably something not builtin to drupal or the like |
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| [03:22:40] | iamlindoro: | superm1: the backend runs it like it does mythcommflag and mythtranscode, but it's also of use on any machine, as it will work anywhere the python bindings and metadata scripts are installed |
| [03:22:47] | iamlindoro: | IMO it should be on both |
| [03:24:05] | iamlindoro: | ie if a metadata lookup fails for some reason, or if a user has a bunch of old recordings they want to get the information in to when they upgrade to .25, they can just run it without arguments and it will attempt to fill in season, episode, and inetref for all existing recordings that don't have inetrefs yet |
| [03:25:25] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Enhancing_Recordin . . . adata_Lookup for documentation on how it's configured, and I'll add some information later on how to run it on the old recordings (which is really as simple as simply running "mythmetadatalookup") |
| [03:27:07] | iamlindoro: | One can also perform a metadata lookup on a single old recording, or one where the metadata was missing when it first ran and they've since adding it, my pressing MENU in "Watch Recordings", Then Job Options->Metadata Lookup |
| [03:27:16] | iamlindoro: | s/adding/added/ |
| [03:28:15] | iamlindoro: | The benefit of the new stuff won't be immediately apparent until themers begin to build the season, episode, and inetref information into the PBB now that they can use it, but I've updated all the themes we host to at least allow configurations of rules per the wiki article above, and updated Arclight to use the values in "Watch Recordings" |
| [03:29:05] | iamlindoro: | I'll also add some code in the near future to allow a "nuclear option" on mythmetadatalookup to replace existing title, subtitle, description, etc. with the TVDB/TMDB values so that users can fill in generic recordings with real information |
| [03:32:30] | superm1: | iamlindoro, okay i'll just set it up to install on both then |
| [03:32:34] | superm1: | thanks |
| [03:32:48] | iamlindoro: | no problem, thanks |
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| [04:16:11] | Beirdo: | stuarta: you don't happen to be in, do ya? |
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| [05:48:34] | dekarl: | iamlindoro: wrt http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Enhancing_Recordin . . . data_Lookup, I take it you talk about america when you say "no guide has series/episode numbers or inetref"? I've had my hands in about half a dozen xmltv grabbers that do deliver series/episode numbers. (all for european countries. fr, no, se, hr, hu, ro, etc) |
| [05:50:06] | wagnerrp: | dekarl: are there actually two XMLTV fields that are specifically used for integer season and episode? |
| [05:50:26] | wagnerrp: | (i dont know, ive never looked at the spec) |
| [05:51:01] | dekarl: | no, it's the episode filed cotaining series/episode/part |
| [05:51:09] | dekarl: | s/filed/field/ |
| [05:51:15] | wagnerrp: | from schedules direct, we get a programid that often carries such information |
| [05:51:31] | wagnerrp: | but there is no standard way to reliably extract that information out of it |
| [05:52:13] | dekarl: | but then, european scheduling doesn't always follow the us first airings order (which is what tvdb uses) or uses just absolute episode numbers for the soaps |
| [05:52:43] | wagnerrp: | for what its worth, neither does us scheduling |
| [05:52:47] | dekarl: | mythfilldatabase handles it ok (for the common part of us series) |
| [05:53:03] | wagnerrp: | youve got the production order, youve got the written order, youve got the airing order, youve got the dvd order |
| [05:53:09] | wagnerrp: | and many times they areall different |
| [05:54:05] | dekarl: | for the format, see https://github.com/dekarl/nonametv/blob/maste . . . ltv.dtd#L350 |
| [05:54:47] | dekarl: | and for kicks you got the "12 episodes of 90 minutes" and the "24 episodes of 45 minutes" cuts... depending on country, station and time of year :( |
| [05:55:40] | wagnerrp: | heh, ive only seen that on cartoons over here |
| [05:56:00] | wagnerrp: | sometimes its shown as one 30 minute, other times two 15 minute |
| [05:57:43] | dekarl: | but for the most part matching on episode title works somehow |
| [05:58:17] | dekarl: | just need to figure out where the darn umlauts (ore anything about character code 127) break :( |
| [05:58:58] | wagnerrp: | you dont write in python by chance do you? |
| [05:59:30] | dekarl: | perl... as that's what runs swedb since the dawn of time |
| [05:59:35] | ** Beirdo umlauts python for good measure ** | |
| [05:59:41] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [05:59:51] | wagnerrp: | unicode in python is a complete minefield |
| [06:00:08] | Beirdo: | it's not much better in perl, over all |
| [06:01:35] | Beirdo: | OMG, tv_rec.cpp is just too large |
| [06:01:40] | dekarl: | the data pipelines from the studios over the networks and stations going trough all kinds of encoding bugs doesn't help much either. Anyway got my lift to work at the door :) Later |
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| [06:18:53] | Beirdo: | sorry that was tv_play.cpp that's god-awful long. 12k lines approx |
| [06:21:24] | wagnerrp: | well you know my opinion |
| [06:21:38] | Beirdo: | aaaaaaaaauuuuughhhh! |
| [06:21:40] | Beirdo: | right? |
| [06:21:50] | Beirdo: | run away screaming? :) |
| [06:22:04] | wagnerrp: | when you hit a thousand lines, its time for a new file |
| [06:22:26] | Beirdo: | yeah, can't always make them that small, but it's a nice target |
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| [06:24:47] | iamlindoro: | dekarl: No, I meant all grabbers-- as the XMLTV notion of what is a episode number is wildly variable even within the single source of data-- no grabber that I am aware of returns season and episode number in a manner which is directly mappable to "standard" season and episode |
| [06:25:26] | Beirdo: | // Print something informative to the log |
| [06:25:36] | Beirdo: | a fine comment that is :) |
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| [09:34:48] | Beirdo: | OK, that's a July 4th well wasted :) |
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| [11:42:18] | luke0512: | hello |
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| [13:35:56] | ThisNewGuy: | Hey all – I think there's a bug in libmythtv/privatedecoder_crystalhd.cpp – there's a LOG_WARN instead of LOG_WARNING |
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| [16:22:00] | wagnerrp: | danielk22: i think a preemptive lock is needed for that ticket |
| [16:22:45] | wagnerrp: | and XvMC works in 0.24, it was removed for 0.25 |
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