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| [00:14:25] | stuartm: | Beirdo: mythfilldatabase is still logging to syslog |
| [00:14:59] | stuartm: | even when --syslog none is passed to mythbackend and syslog logging is disabled by default |
| [00:15:31] | Beirdo: | Oh crap |
| [00:15:36] | Beirdo: | another thing to propagate |
| [00:15:49] | Beirdo: | hehe. And here I thought I was done with that |
| [00:15:55] | sphery: | isn't syslog off the default, now? |
| [00:16:01] | Beirdo: | thanks :) |
| [00:16:02] | stuartm: | oops, no, it's not syslog, it's going to stdout |
| [00:16:04] | Beirdo: | it should be |
| [00:16:07] | Beirdo: | oooh |
| [00:16:14] | Beirdo: | OK, that's different. |
| [00:16:24] | sphery: | though we'd still need to propagate syslog on ... |
| [00:16:29] | Beirdo: | you have a writatble mythfilldatabase.log file? |
| [00:16:37] | Beirdo: | sphery: yeah, still true :) |
| [00:16:56] | stuartm: | mythbackend is daemonized but the output is going to the terminal that started that daemon |
| [00:17:20] | sphery: | maybe I should be working on replacing wget usage in mythfilldatabase so that we can drop the mythfilldatabase log file setting and propagate things properly |
| [00:17:58] | Beirdo: | I think it's the remaining part of mythfilldb that was sending the wget info into the logs... but I'll definitely take a look |
| [00:19:09] | stuartm: | it's the verbose macro stuff that I'm seeing, starting with – 2011-06–25 01:13:37.555097 I Added database logging to table logging |
| [00:19:37] | sphery: | seems we only do wget for datadirect, but perhaps tv_grab_* stdout is being output? |
| [00:19:44] | stuartm: | fwiw the confusion over syslog was because I thought I'd left it tailing syslog :) |
| [00:20:07] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [00:20:09] | stuartm: | sphery: it's not, we ignore that unless -v xmltv is used |
| [00:20:42] | Beirdo: | OK. I'll take a look, stuartm. Probably simple enough, likely missed a spot or something |
| [00:20:45] | Beirdo: | Ooooh |
| [00:21:01] | Beirdo: | you are running mythbackend daemonized... so it gets --quiet |
| [00:21:08] | Beirdo: | but that doesn't propagate |
| [00:21:12] | Beirdo: | bugger |
| [00:21:29] | Beirdo: | OK, that's two more things to auto-propagate to children |
| [00:21:46] | Beirdo: | if the parent is --quiet, the child has to be too, or it will spew to the console |
| [00:22:15] | stuartm: | Beirdo: ok, glad you know what's going wrong :) |
| [00:22:32] | Beirdo: | it took me a moment there :) Thanks for the report :) |
| [00:22:47] | Beirdo: | OK, time to head home so I can fix some bugs :) Enough work |
| [00:23:00] | stuartm: | ok, I'm off to bed where I'm supposed to be ;) |
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| [04:27:09] | noisymouse: | hi, should I use stable or git for mythtv version? |
| [04:30:44] | wagnerrp: | does not compute |
| [04:30:59] | noisymouse: | oh wrong room |
| [04:31:01] | noisymouse: | sry |
| [04:37:14] | gigem: | danielk22, stuartm: i tried both of your patches a little bit this evening on 0.24-fixes. danielk22, the only glitch i saw was some sluggishness changing fast forward speeds a couple of times. stuartm, i didn't see any pauses during recording starts/stops. the only glitch i saw was a slight, but noticable pause after exiting playback before the playbackbox redrew. |
| [04:41:15] | Beirdo: | gigem: I'm compiling stuartm's patch too, hope to have feedback soon |
| [04:41:41] | Beirdo: | how noticable of a pause are we talking here in your setup? |
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| [12:48:11] | niteye: | hello there chaps |
| [12:54:25] | stuartm: | gigem: thanks, a delay is expected although it shouldn't been really noticeable :/ At least for 0.24 it may be the trade-off we have to live with |
| [12:54:54] | stuartm: | it might be possible to reduce the delay by immediately redrawing instead of scheduling it |
| [12:55:33] | stuartm: | that's either going to work or it will actually increase the perceived delay when exiting from playback |
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| [12:57:18] | mac20xx: | hi, i'm trying to debug audiooutputalsa.cpp. does anyone knows the meaning of frames in the audio context? |
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| [13:07:20] | danielk22: | sphery: gigem_: http://pastebin.com/LAgqJKtp <-- this should get rid of any seek sluggishness. |
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| [13:11:51] | danielk22: | sphery: I don't think the patch caused the problem you ran into, but I got rid of the change in the fill threshold in the updated patch. |
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| [16:37:37] | gigem: | stuartm, Beirdo: the pause isn't long, maybe 1/4 to 1/2 second. it's the effect that is noticable. the pbb background gets drawn quickly, but the rest of the screen doesn't get ddrawn until after the pause. previously, the entire screen got drawn fairly quickly. yeah, it might be better to redraw the old contents while waiting for the complete refill to complete. |
| [16:37:52] | gigem: | danielk22: i'll try your new patch laster today. |
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| [17:01:45] | sphery: | wagnerrp: Thoughts on http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9389 ? Are you planning to put your "convert MythArchive Python scripts to use Python bindings" patch in before 0.25? (Just wondering since the guy who thought he was having the #9729 problem is actually having the #9389 problem.) |
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| [17:31:32] | stuartm: | gigem: ah, ok that's different, I thought you meant that the list wasn't being updated but the screen not being redrawn is something else |
| [17:31:45] | stuartm: | that shouldn't be happening :( |
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| [19:11:30] | Beirdo: | stuartm: you still looking at converting mpeg2fix to Qt4? |
| [19:11:40] | Beirdo: | I was thinking of attacking that today |
| [19:11:57] | Beirdo: | but if you are already... no point in duplicating effort. |
| [19:12:26] | Beirdo: | Oh, and your patch to avoid recording list updates... has been working splendidly here. A nice workaround |
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| [19:53:56] | stuartm: | Beirdo: I'm halfway through it |
| [19:54:15] | stuartm: | the mpeg2fix patch |
| [19:54:32] | stuartm: | something else came up and I've not returned to it yet |
| [19:55:00] | stuartm: | replacing QPtrList is not a simple search/replace |
| [19:55:44] | Beirdo: | ah, OK. I'll let it be then |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | no point in redoing all you've already done, after all |
| [19:56:14] | stuartm: | it's not a great deal harder than that either, but I'm taking my time ;) |
| [19:56:38] | Beirdo: | I just noticed it as it breaks my build on freebsd as I didn't put in Qt3 compat |
| [19:57:08] | stuartm: | Beirdo: if I haven't got it committed in 3–4 days then it's all yours |
| [19:57:14] | Beirdo: | but it's unimportant for now, and I can just disable building mythtranscode for the moment |
| [19:57:18] | Beirdo: | K, sounds good |
| [19:57:42] | Beirdo: | I'm pretty happy with the patch for the recordinglist |
| [19:58:16] | danielk22: | stuartm: that port is a real hair puller. a lot of other places used qt3 container classes, but that code actually used features that aren't present in the stl containers or the new more stl like qt4 containers. |
| [19:58:20] | Beirdo: | may not be the perfect long-term way to fix, but it does the trick |
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| [20:07:10] | Beirdo: | any objections to the no-db mode of mythcommflag being ripped out by its roots? It's currently half-borked anyways, and only used for external projects to leverage our code. |
| [20:08:03] | sphery: | For me, no objections--I'd actually be /very/ glad to see it gone. I'd rather we spend our time working on code to help /our/ users. |
| [20:11:41] | sphery: | and, FWIW, I'd argue that any Windows people who want commercial flagging can use comskip ( http://www.kaashoek.com/comskip/ ), and non-Windows people can either a) port comskip to work on their platform or b) maintain an external fork of mythcommflag with the DB stuff removed |
| [20:12:55] | danielk22: | It's also used to debug the code. |
| [20:14:13] | danielk22: | Our commflag is pretty old in the tooth though, we might be better off importing kaashoek's comskip than trying to maintain our own. |
| [20:14:46] | Beirdo: | Something to consider ongoing, yeah |
| [20:15:58] | sphery: | heh, yeah--while ours seems to work well for me, it is having more and more issues as the networks change the way they do their encoding or something, and a lot of non-US people claim it's not usable at all |
| [20:17:37] | Beirdo: | and they still don't bother to give us test recordings to help refine.. or patches... |
| [20:19:39] | danielk22: | Beirdo: i don't know if they've been asked for test recordings.. i don't think anyone is super motivated to improve commflagging for others.. and patches are for commflag are not something you can really expect from casual coders. |
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| [20:22:05] | Beirdo: | Agreed, generally |
| [20:22:19] | sphery: | Oh, and regarding the --skipdb, even if we come up with a different long-term plan, we probably still need to make a short-term decision for http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9515 |
| [20:22:28] | Beirdo: | I have in the past asked for test recordings when people complained it doesn't work in UK, etc |
| [20:23:08] | Beirdo: | sphery: yeah, I thought there was a related ticket |
| [20:24:34] | stuartm: | danielk22: aye, the in-built iterator is a real pain and it definitely makes it more 'interesting' |
| [20:26:30] | stuartm: | Beirdo: if you still want test recordings from the UK to help improve commflagging then I can start collecting samples and make them available |
| [20:27:03] | Beirdo: | stuartm: that would be a good thing, collect some over time that seem to work badly and/or well |
| [20:27:43] | Beirdo: | it would be nice to be able to do regression tests as we tweak the algorithms, etc.. |
| [20:27:58] | stuartm: | it's been years since I even tried flagging, iirc it really struggled on channels where we faded to adverts etc, I'm not sure if that transition style is still used but it would be a good place to start |
| [20:28:20] | sphery: | and maybe, eventually, fix/consolidate/remote the 2 different commflaggers (classic and experimental) |
| [20:28:23] | Beirdo: | yeah, I've heard that audio cues work well for you guys |
| [20:28:28] | stuartm: | Beirdo: well this is one area where it's very easy to do rigorous and even automated regression testing |
| [20:28:30] | Beirdo: | but we don't do audio yet |
| [20:28:38] | Beirdo: | how true |
| [20:29:53] | Beirdo: | I'm hoping to tilt at the windmill of commflagging more over time |
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| [20:30:02] | stuartm: | my upstream has recently doubled making it a little more practical to upload large samples, but if necessary I can stick a few on a DVD and mail them to someone |
| [20:30:43] | Beirdo: | K. I think we'll have space on the server if necessary, but yeah, we can figure out a delivery method later ;) |
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| [23:04:45] | Beirdo: | For the EITScanner running on sources with EIT disabled: |
| [23:04:47] | Beirdo: | http://www.beirdo.ca/git/mythtv/commit/?h=stop-eit |
| [23:05:54] | Beirdo: | if someone can take a look at it.... It seems to work right here, but I'd like some extra eyes on it before considering putting it into master |
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