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Wednesday, June 8th, 2011, 00:07 UTC
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[01:39:10] taylorr: Beirdo: could I get your help with a patch to store total frames for a video – does this look ok -> http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/2076504
[01:52:00] Beirdo: one sec
[01:52:06] Beirdo: sorry, wasn't at my desk :)
[01:53:22] Beirdo: Looks like it should work
[01:53:39] Beirdo: MARK_FRAMES is already defines, right?
[01:53:58] Beirdo: defined rather. Pretty sure it is
[01:55:23] taylorr: I can call it TOTAL_FRAMES
[01:58:14] Beirdo: no no, I just wanted to make sure the define exists
[01:59:13] Beirdo: Anyways, I think it's time to head home. :)
[02:01:57] taylorr: Beirdo: I gotcha – added the define
[02:10:43] sphery: how about MARK_TOTAL_FRAMES (assuming I'm not too late)?
[02:11:11] taylorr: sphery: no, but that would be clearer
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[05:35:08] Beirdo: ugh, I added a warning? Better fix that puppy
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[05:41:55] markk: Beirdo: are we actually logging to the db by default?
[05:42:08] Beirdo: yes
[05:42:15] Beirdo: it gets autoexpired
[05:42:27] Beirdo: CRAP, I forgot to put that part into the tome of an email
[05:42:50] Beirdo: there will be a follow-up logviewer worked on by Mr. sphery
[05:43:23] markk: but we didn't by default before – did we?
[05:43:26] Beirdo: the housekeeper keeps the db log trimmed
[05:43:42] Beirdo: we had a different type of db logging before, that didn't do much
[05:43:52] Beirdo: but no, not really
[05:44:19] Beirdo: it can be disabled, but the plan is to add tools to make it useful to have there, and we can tweak.
[05:45:36] markk: I'm (as ever!) just thinking about performance. it maybe a drop in the ocean but logging to 3–4 different places at once just seem unnecessary
[05:47:55] Beirdo: yeah, we'll likely tweak it such that syslog is defaulted to off, but configurable from the db
[05:48:02] Beirdo: or something of the like
[05:48:23] Beirdo: and if you are running in --daemon mode, the console doesn't log
[05:48:43] Beirdo: but yeah, slight overkill, subject to tweakage :)
[05:49:23] Beirdo: we're not ready for a full release anyways, so we have time to come to a good concensus on better defaults
[05:50:29] markk: ok – thanks.
[05:51:14] Beirdo: not a problem. I have no doubts the defaults will shift :)
[05:52:07] Beirdo: what a massive commits message. OY
[05:55:46] wagnerrp: Beirdo: you can cast a pointer on a 32-bit system to a uint64_t?
[05:56:33] Beirdo: of course you can
[05:56:42] Beirdo: it works fine
[05:57:03] Beirdo: 32bit -> 64bit explicit cast works fine
[05:57:20] Beirdo: it will have a lot of leading 0s
[05:57:22] Beirdo: :)
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[05:58:47] Beirdo: gcc is happy with it (see the 32-bit buildbot build)
[05:59:30] Beirdo: btw, you left a warning in autoexpire with your FSinfo changes
[05:59:34] Beirdo: :)
[06:00:01] Beirdo: I left it as I figured you might be mid-changes on that section
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[06:13:10] wagnerrp: checking, it was not intentional
[06:13:28] Beirdo: K :)
[06:13:44] Beirdo: just noticed it with the others there
[06:14:54] wagnerrp: are you talking about the unused variable?
[06:15:46] Beirdo: yup
[06:16:09] Beirdo: we missing some code to use that variable or something?
[06:17:46] wagnerrp: might have been some temporary variable that i removed the need for
[06:18:18] okolsi: Beirdo: MythWeb seems quicker now with new logging, responding faster etc. :)
[06:19:17] Beirdo: interesting. Not sure how much logging mythweb itself would be causing, but cool :)
[06:20:58] okolsi: I think every "klick" in MythWeb makes some kind of request to backend and now it feels just better
[06:21:09] Beirdo: tis quite possible
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[06:26:25] wagnerrp: i dont remember off hand why i deleted that block of code
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[06:28:29] Beirdo: heh. Well, I leave it in your fine hands :)
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[07:31:30] ** iamlindoro sends the buildbots into overdrive **
[07:31:47] Beirdo: hehe.
[07:31:52] Beirdo: your turn :)
[07:32:36] iamlindoro: Better all work, I need to go to bed
[07:33:30] Beirdo: heh
[07:33:40] Beirdo: likely nothing that can't wait for tomorrow
[07:33:44] iamlindoro: nope, it's going to fail
[07:34:00] iamlindoro: At least, until it catches up to the leftover commit
[07:34:28] Beirdo: it will build them together :)
[07:34:56] Beirdo: it was still in the "wait for subsequent commits" period
[07:37:26] Beirdo: heh, ohloh will have a coronary tonight, I think
[07:42:47] Beirdo: seems to be operational here, iamlindoro. I think you're good for sleep :)
[07:42:52] iamlindoro: yay
[07:43:04] iamlindoro: one less thing to not do
[07:43:12] Beirdo: aye
[07:43:30] Beirdo: one more thing stricken off the list
[07:45:39] Beirdo: so the mythplugins/mythvideo dir is still there, but codeless?
[07:45:52] iamlindoro: more or less-- there are a couple of cleanup things I need to do with it
[07:45:57] iamlindoro: It's removed from configure
[07:46:06] Beirdo: cool :) Well done
[07:46:13] iamlindoro: I just need to move Jamu to contrib and then I can git rm it
[07:46:37] iamlindoro: thanks
[07:47:00] Beirdo: progress++ :) Have a good sleep
[07:47:04] iamlindoro: Has been on the list for a while, but managed to get it done in a single evening-- I knew it wasn't a huge job, just tedious
[07:47:12] Beirdo: I should do so soon too, too many late nights lately
[08:06:26] Beirdo: hmm, I think our .gitignore at root level needs *.moc added... not sure why those are new since teh mythvideo->core change, but they should be excluded
[08:08:46] Beirdo: maybe a Qt expert can figure out why they are needed and tweak the build or something (if necessary)
[08:14:29] Beirdo: beats me why we have both moc_*.cpp and *.moc files suddenly though, but I'm tired... I'll put in the .gitignore so someone doesn't add the moc files by mistake to git.
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[10:42:13] stuartm: Beirdo: yeah, that is odd, I'd have sworn that they were already in the .gitignore
[10:44:42] stuartm: well at least "moc_*.cpp" was from day one ... *.moc is new, I've never seen those before?
[10:45:12] stuartm: which I know realise is what you were saying ...
[10:47:02] stuartm: hmm, *looks* like those are only generated on Windows? So they'd only be committed from someone developing and building on that platform?
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[10:51:40] stuartm: ah no, ok, it looks like they aren't created entirely automatically, unlike moc_*.cpp you need to request the *.moc files and manually include them – "./mythtv/programs/mythfrontend/videodlg.cpp:#include "videodlg.moc""
[10:51:45] stuartm: not sure why
[10:52:17] stuartm: mythvideo is the only place that does that
[10:52:28] stuartm: and it had it's own .gitignore
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[12:43:57] dblain: stuartm, Beirdo: the .moc files are generated when you define a QObject derived class in a cpp file (not in a header), and it requires the #include in the cpp as stuartm stated in order to work. Found that out when I ported everything to VS2010.
[12:46:03] dblain: there was another file that needed it. Off the top of my head I think it's in the libmythmetadata project
[12:50:03] stuartm: hmm, then I'd be tempted to refactor the mythvideo stuff to avoid that, it's the only such place that it's done that way – the style of code in mythvideo is very different to the rest of the project anyway, with wrappers around wrappers within namespaces
[12:50:58] stuartm: if it's going to be part of the core application then applying the same style/conventions would make it much easier to maintain
[12:54:55] dblain: I'm all for the refactor... it causes a warning in VS2010 about a circular include (or something like that) when I compile libmythmetadata. I'm sure I'll have the same issue once I get the mythvideo changes included in the VS project.
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[14:10:29] j-rod: iamlindoro: I'm with you. My boss asked me to "advertise" the test day though. ;)
[14:10:59] j-rod: hey, weren't there some ipv6 additions to mythtv just made?
[14:23:50] GreyFoxx: yup
[14:23:57] GreyFoxx: Couple weeks ago
[14:26:18] iamlindoro: so there you go, j-rod, just take credit for that and demand a raise ;)
[14:26:54] GreyFoxx: haha
[14:30:32] ** j-rod really *could* use a raise... **
[14:30:37] j-rod: :D
[14:33:34] GreyFoxx: I could use a much less boring job
[14:34:20] iamlindoro: Just pour a big gulp down the top of the server rack, it'll get a lot less boring, quick
[14:34:29] GreyFoxx: heh
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[15:26:46] iamlindoro: superm1: tgm4883: You guys probably have/may have already noticed, but I moved MythVideo into the actual frontend code last night, so I'm sure that has implications for your package/wizards (just not sure exactly what).... Just wanted to let you know so you could get ahead of it
[15:29:52] tgm4883: iamlindoro, thanks for the update, thats probably why it broke last night :)
[15:30:05] iamlindoro: Heh, maybe so :)
[15:30:20] iamlindoro: It didn't occur to me to mention to you guys until just now
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[15:48:40] dblain: ARG!!! the latest logging changes are being a real pain in the @$$ to port to VS.
[16:03:15] Chutt: heh
[16:03:23] Chutt: ok coding people, should this get past code review:
[16:03:33] Chutt: src.right = (src.left = orig.x) + (dst.right = orig.width);
[16:03:39] Chutt: src.bottom = (src.top = orig.y) + (dst.bottom = orig.height);
[16:04:15] Chutt: orig is x/y/w/h, src+dst are left/top/right/bottom, so it's copying orig – >src, and dst is 0,0,width,height
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[16:31:28] superm1: iamlindoro, thanks for the heads up
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[16:46:38] stuartm: iamlindoro: you've yet to move the themes/translations/scripts though?
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[16:50:07] stuartm: Chutt: if the intention is to copy orig to src and for the destination to have an orgin of zero etc then it'll work, but would I allow it past a code review? No, for the sake of saving a few lines it's difficult to read at speed and readability trumps LOC IMHO
[16:50:46] stuartm: but for all that, I can't help feeling it's a trap and that I'm missing something fundamental :P
[16:51:03] Chutt: naw, i was just looking for comments on the cutesyness
[16:51:09] Chutt: i mean, the code works
[16:51:15] Chutt: it's just hard to read
[16:51:49] stuartm: indeed
[16:52:13] hadack: hello, is ThemePainter=qt gone in 0.25?
[16:52:29] sphery: hadack: /topic (you want #mythtv-users )
[16:52:40] iamlindoro: stuartm: I moved the themes, scripts have been in core for a while, translations can't be moved TTBOMK
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[16:55:01] stuartm: iamlindoro: ok, so you did, I noted that the directories where still there but I didn't verify that they weren't empty (or nearly empty)
[16:56:20] stuartm: the translations can be moved (well merged into mythfrontend.ts)
[16:58:28] iamlindoro: stuartm: I git rm'd mythvideo just a little bit ago, but I believe git doesn't *actually* rm those directories so they may still sit on people's drives
[16:59:11] sphery: they got removed on mine, but I had a pristine repo before the git pull... I'm guessing if there's garbage (like compiled stuff or local changes), it leaves the dirs?
[16:59:21] iamlindoro: I don't know how to merge the .ts files, but that would be cool if I could (There's only a small handful of strings in mythvideo now, mostly just old style settings)
[17:01:20] stuartm: huh, the directory is still here on mine
[17:01:52] stuartm: iamlindoro: ts files are just xml, a copy/paste would work fine
[17:02:29] stuartm: but if as you say it's just a few strings then maybe no-one will really care about re-translating them
[17:03:05] iamlindoro: Heh, guess I should have opened them to see, I must have had the binary versions in my head
[17:03:15] stuartm: 369 strings apparently, at least pre-merge
[17:03:42] stuartm: iamlindoro: ah, yeah the binary versions are created from the xml
[17:05:39] iamlindoro: 369? Wow, thought it was just the contents of themestrings.h
[17:06:05] stuartm: http://www.insidethex.co.uk/mythtv/translatio . . . t.html#en_gb
[17:06:10] iamlindoro: boo, I guess I *should* do the merges, don't want to incur the ire of translators
[17:06:25] iamlindoro: themestrings.h has 195, but I guess there is some other source of them
[17:07:15] Beirdo: dblain: ahhh. definition in cpp file -> .moc, def in h file -> moc_*.cpp
[17:07:16] Beirdo: got it
[17:07:52] iamlindoro: stuartm: Hmm, the filenames are no longer correct in the translation files, is that an issue?
[17:08:07] iamlindoro: (most of the files have been renamed with a "video" prefix, and no longer at the same path)
[17:14:55] stuartm: iamlindoro: hmm, that might not be a problem as linguist would be able to reuse the translated values when finding the strings in a new location, but I'd have to experiment to be sure
[17:15:32] stuartm: the alternative is a quick script to automatically fix up those paths
[17:16:30] stuartm: generally linguist and associated tools are pretty good about that stuff, files get renamed all the time, if it meant having to re-translate all the time then no-one would bother
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[17:32:48] xris: woah.. bye bye mythvideo
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[17:33:26] xris: iamlindoro: about time.  :)
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[20:15:03] abqjp: Wow. Some major commits last night. Guess it is time for a 24.2 release ;-p
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[20:40:28] ** stuarta really must catch up **
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[20:44:53] Beirdo: umm, the changes aren't on 0.24 :)
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[20:45:12] Beirdo: and I have no intentions of backporting the logging to 0.24 :)
[20:50:01] stuartm: there were a couple of recent changes that should be backported, I just don't remember what they were
[20:51:26] Beirdo: yeah, I don't doubt it
[20:54:22] stuartm: GreyFoxx: do the upnp sql fixes need backporting?
[20:55:00] Beirdo: I would guess yes
[20:57:01] stuartm: so would I, but I like to give others the chance to backport their own commits :)
[20:59:01] Beirdo: makes perfect sense
[20:59:27] stuarta: Beirdo: i've just found an issue with the new logging stuff (i'm guessing it's been merged)
[20:59:41] stuarta: i just /etc/init.d/mythbackend start'd it
[21:00:02] stuarta: and i'm getting the logging output in both the logfile and the terminal which i started the backend from
[21:00:26] Beirdo: does your init.d script use --daemon?
[21:00:53] sphery: (or -d)
[21:00:57] stuartm: I'd be perfectly willing to handle a 0.24.2 release in a week or two if there is an important fix backported, or maybe enough smaller fixes, I don't see regular point releases as a problem so long as there is sufficient justification
[21:01:02] Beirdo: if it's run in the foreground, not in daemon mode, the default is to log to the console unless you add a --quiet
[21:01:30] stuarta: yes it does
[21:01:58] Beirdo: it has --daemon and is still spewing? Hmm, OK, I'll take a look
[21:02:42] stuarta: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/2076939
[21:02:49] sphery: I'll take a look at that--was just able to repro
[21:02:52] stuarta: it's debian/ubuntu rather than redshat
[21:03:12] sphery: it's not actually daemonizing, either for me (I'm using -d, not --daemon)
[21:03:27] stuarta: that's clearly the problem
[21:03:36] Beirdo: WTF?
[21:04:11] Beirdo: OK, it will be fixed.  :) Thanks
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[21:04:37] stuarta: no worries. breaking things is a speciality of mine
[21:04:47] stuarta: and no, i never ever want to work in testing
[21:05:31] Beirdo: hehe, we need more people who can stress stuff like that. Breaking things by increasing code coverage :)
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[21:07:01] sphery: having it in master will definitely help :)
[21:07:17] stuarta: i guess i just have a knack
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[21:07:27] stuarta: which is why i fit in where i work.
[21:08:01] stuarta: we have external consultants come in about _their_ software, saying it shouldn't actually function at all in that configuration
[21:08:16] stuarta: and we go, "meh, it works"
[21:11:23] sphery: OK, it is mostly daemonizing (except for the stdin/out/err stuff)
[21:12:27] Beirdo: heh
[21:12:32] Beirdo: OK, there ya go
[21:12:36] Beirdo: committed
[21:12:56] Beirdo: we were reading "daemonize" and setting "daemon"
[21:14:43] sphery: you're way too fast... I was still running tests before looking at code :)
[21:15:08] stuarta: he's good man
[21:15:19] stuarta: </ridiculous jamaican accent>
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[21:45:51] Beirdo: well, time to go to a stupid meeting
[21:54:27] stuarta: nope, it's not fixed
[21:55:01] stuarta: in fact it's the other way around
[21:55:25] stuarta: it stays in the foreground and rather than daemonizing
[21:55:57] stuarta: previously, at least it daemonized, but still logged where i started it from
[21:56:18] stuarta: now it doesn't daemonize, and continues to log where i start it from
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[22:54:22] 52AAAZRSW: stuartm, iamlindoro I am not sure what you guys did that could affect the translations (I just came back from work) but if the translato
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[22:57:47] knightr: stuartm, iamlindoro I am not sure what you guys did that could affect the translations (I just came back from work) but if the translation already exist in the same translation file, lupdate should fill them automagically...
[22:59:51] knightr: stuartm, iamlindoro there's one of your comments I wasn't sure what you meant by the way... you wondered what was the source of some strings, there is a split being done to put plugin related strings in the right themestrings.h file, this might be the source of some of the strings you inquired about...
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[23:01:45] knightr: iamlindoro, stuarm, by the way, if you have translation related issues we still exist Kenni and I... (unless this has changed???)
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[23:16:15] sphery: knightr: FWIW, I think translation maintainers are very much deserving--so don't sell yourselves short.  :) (That said, I already renewed mine, too. After all, as vocal as I am about how worthwhile the $20/yr is for a SD subscription--almost to the point of being an SD pusher--I couldn't take a gift subscription or I'd risk being called a hypocrite.)
[23:17:21] Beirdo: umm, OK
[23:17:39] Beirdo: stuartm: hmmm, back from the meeting, let me look again :)
[23:24:15] Beirdo: OMG
[23:24:24] Beirdo: I did it backwards?
[23:24:33] Beirdo: heh, OK, one moment
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