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[00:34:46] | taylorr: | markk: the new stastics is sweet! |
[00:35:32] | taylorr: | only thing I can think of that would still be useful is to add CPU usage information – but I can understand it might take up too much screen real estate |
[00:35:50] | taylorr: | err, statistics |
[00:39:24] | taylorr: | looks like XBMC moved to git and use github too |
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[00:51:44] | markk: | taylorr: I focused on what info we had to hand without impacting actual performance – not sure cpu utilisation is that easy to get hold of. |
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[01:54:05] | Casper: | Hi there, I'ld like to know something before I compile and try to possibly not have mythtv do what I want :D I'm looking for a DLNA server that can transcode files, but that is configurable, because my tv support most formats... only a few format that it do not. |
[01:54:58] | Casper: | I tried a few others and I'm deceived by them.. the ps3mediaserver basically transcode everything, making HD content unstreamable. Mediatomb is just too hard to make it do so (it's via scripts!) |
[01:55:18] | Casper: | so, is mythtv easy to tell what is allowed to go staight and what must be transcoded? |
[02:12:46] | taylorr: | Casper: you want #mythtv-users |
[02:12:56] | Casper: | ok thanks |
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[03:40:32] | jya: | jpabq: where did you get a 8 channels AC3 track? |
[03:40:56] | jya: | I thought AC3 could only do max of 6 channels.. |
[03:42:32] | jpabq: | Correct. Those variables had an 8 in them, but the recording is ATSC MPEG2 DD5.1. I am uploading it to you now, but it will take all night. |
[03:43:38] | jpabq: | I played that show three times, with timestretch at 1.75x and it aborted at the same point in the show every time. |
[04:03:59] | jya: | jpabq: libsoundtouch only supports 6 channels at the most |
[04:04:17] | jya: | so you can't do timestretch on those files |
[04:04:25] | jya: | having said that, AC3 is 6 channels max |
[04:05:05] | jya: | so it's most likely a bug in ffmpeg not detecting the right number of channels.. should check how mplayer plays them, and reports it to upstream |
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[06:33:15] | okolsi: | stuartm: I think audioscrobbling would be much liked new feature in mmusic. I wonder how e.g. Amarok handles the last.fm key issue? |
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[10:58:30] | paul-h: | okolsi: heh looks like they just hard code the api key and shared secret in the source for anyone to find |
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[10:58:58] | paul-h: | I think what we have done for some the the netvision scripts is hide the key in a precompiled python module or something like that to at least make an effort to hide it |
[11:02:40] | paul-h: | stuartm: I don think it would be a nice thing to have, it is something that has been asked about on several occasions but I wont be spending any time on it |
[11:03:48] | stuartm: | well in that case I think we'd do the same as Amarok, you are only advised to keep the 'secret key' a secret to avoid problematic clients from causing your client to be banned |
[11:04:05] | stuartm: | but if Amarok isn't having any problems then it's unlikely we will either |
[11:04:42] | stuartm: | but I'd still write it as an external 'plugin' script so it's easier to maintain/update ala MNV, MythWeather etc |
[11:07:22] | stuartm: | not sure whether I personally like the 'realtime' scrobbling, too Orwellian, but last.fm has the best recommendations engine I've yet seen and I've found a lot of really good music that way |
[11:08:58] | paul-h: | that's exactly why I'm not keen but the recommendations stuff would be cool |
[11:10:28] | paul-h: | would also be a good source of artist and abum art if the examples are anything to go by |
[11:25:38] | okolsi: | paul-h, stuartm: I'm entertaining myself with an idea about mmusic supporting Spotify (if you know the thing..). Any thoughts? |
[11:44:00] | markk: | okolsi: I doubt that will ever happen. they also use an api and a proprietary streaming method (encrypted?) – given the copyright issues, I'm not sure they'd be compliant. |
[11:45:59] | okolsi: | markk: hmm.. not very good at these license issues.. does that mean e.g. that 'official' libsoptify and its usage is out of the question? |
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[11:46:35] | okolsi: | libsoptify --> libspotify: https://developer.spotify.com/en/libspotify/overview/ |
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[11:48:45] | okolsi: | just compiled the api and examples and have now working cmd-line client that can play existing playlists, it's little bit more thatn 1000 lines of code |
[11:50:23] | markk: | okolsi: I suspect the 'legal' link on that page has a host of issues... |
[11:53:03] | okolsi: | markk: looks nasty.. :( I have to say that Spotify used through Sonos system has made me use mmusic less lately |
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[12:00:39] | markk: | okolsi: I've used spotify in the last few weeks – very nice indeed; but I just can't see us meeting those legal restrictions. |
[12:03:45] | okolsi: | markk: I see.. and then there are third party apis and libraries but legal status of those is also questionable I guess.. |
[12:05:16] | okolsi: | e.g. N900/Maemo app QSpot (Qt based) uses libopenspotify or libdespotify |
[12:06:18] | okolsi: | it was interesting that handheld devices were not considered as 'approved devices' in libspotify legal stuff.. |
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[12:12:22] | okolsi: | there's also Spokify (KDE client) which uses libopensoptify.. it might(?) work if libopenspotify would be used, users are using payed premium service and using their own Application key |
[12:12:49] | okolsi: | those conditions would certanly limit the number of users |
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[12:51:58] | taylorr: | markk: you left us hanging – "and there are a couple of additional tweaks that will remove those pauses altogether" :) |
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[13:04:37] | markk: | taylorr: just going to tweak that fill_threshold (and associated timeout) again. when there is no read activity, the buffer will only increase above the threshold once per second. was going to raise the threshold again and drop the timeout. |
[13:04:53] | markk: | btw- can you try out your atom for pauses again with latest master? |
[13:07:42] | markk: | I'm toying with bumping the vdpau buffer size a little; but don't think it's really going to help for 300–1000ms pauses with 60fps material – i.e. we can't add another 60 buffers! |
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[16:27:22] | stuartm: | okolsi: I've heard of Spotify of course, but I've never bothered investigating it, I prefer my music in a format I can stick on my mp3 player and I already have a subscription to a legal download site at a very nice grandfathered rate (50 downloads a month @ 24p per track) |
[16:29:59] | stuartm: | okolsi: if the licensing wasn't a problem then I'd say the more interoperability with such services the better, I've thought about allowing purchases to be made through mythmusic at a number of sites (with APIs) which could then be automatically imported into the mm library |
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