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| [00:12:29] | danielk22: | jpabq: jya: That's the recording group not the playback group.. i.e. "Kids", "Husband" "Wife" "H+W" "Family".. when I've watched something in "H+W" I use Change Recording Group to move it to "Wife" so she's free to delete it after she's watched it. |
| [00:12:57] | jpabq: | Duh. right. |
| [00:13:37] | jpabq: | Menu -> Storage Options -> Change Playback Group |
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| [01:29:44] | gigem: | danielk22: according to feature-removal-schedule.txt from the 2.6.32 kernel, v4l1 was scheduled to be removed in July 2009, so it has been known for quite a while that it was going away. i guess it boils down to how many users we might upset by removing it. we could post something to -users to see what reaction we get. in the mean time, adding our own videodev.h is looking like the best option. i still might try my approach on mythtv-rec2 tomorrow, |
| [01:29:46] | gigem: | though, if i get some time. |
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| [01:43:37] | iamlindoro: | gigem, For every 100 respondees, 95 would be upset even though it doesn't affect them in the slightest but they don't understand what's being removed, 4 would be running a hopelessly old distro we can't hope to support anyway, and one would be a troll, with 0 total legitimate complaints-- Our users will generally have been using v4l2 for years and years |
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| [01:52:44] | gigem: | danielk22: probably true, but at least they couldn't say they weren't warned. |
| [01:53:19] | gigem: | s/danielk22/iamlindoro/ |
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| [04:01:46] | Captain_Murdoch: | dblain, it isn't an issue right now, but I found out that qsTr() prior to Qt 4.6.3 is broken in a way which I believe is preventing <%= qsTr("text") %> from working. http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-9775 if we find a need to use it that way, we can work around it somehow later. |
| [04:04:58] | dblain: | The Code is wrapped in an anyomous function "(function( os ) {" I wonder if that still causes the issue. It would be easy enough to add a function name. |
| [04:06:18] | dblain: | let me know if it doesn't behave correctly and I'll make the needed changes. |
| [04:10:19] | Captain_Murdoch: | might be. I can take a look sometime. I tested the <%= method and it wasn't working so I was looking into the scripting engine some and found that bug mentioned. |
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| [04:14:26] | dblain: | Well, if you tried it and it doesn't work, I can make the changes to add a method name. |
| [04:30:15] | dblain: | Captain_Murdoch: Here is the change to give the function a name, let me know if you find time to give it a try. (it's a one line change). |
| [04:30:17] | dblain: | http://pastebin.com/SzmWq1Ui |
| [04:31:16] | Captain_Murdoch: | sorry for the delay. I'll give it a shot now. it's an easy test. |
| [04:31:54] | dblain: | np... It's late here anyway. I wasn't expecting you to look at it now. |
| [04:32:58] | Captain_Murdoch: | doesn't seem to have had any effect. |
| [04:33:05] | dblain: | so I'm assuming you're running qt 4.5 (or at least an older version of 4.6 before it was fixed)? |
| [04:33:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | thanks. I'm headed to bed anyway. |
| [04:33:13] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, 4.5.2 here. |
| [04:33:53] | dblain: | ah. I'll see how I can change the way we evaluate the function... just not tonight. Have a good night. |
| [04:34:35] | Captain_Murdoch: | I'll look into it more as well. thanks. |
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| [05:26:59] | jya: | jpabq: ping |
| [05:27:34] | jpabq: | Just caught me |
| [05:29:02] | jpabq: | jya |
| [05:29:13] | jya: | have a solution I believe |
| [05:30:37] | jpabq: | So, you were able to reproduce it? |
| [05:31:09] | jya: | oh yes.. |
| [05:31:43] | jya: | the problem is that when fixing a problem, it actually exposed another that was working only because of the previous broken stuff |
| [05:32:09] | jya: | bug+bug=fix |
| [05:32:24] | jpabq: | :) |
| [05:34:53] | jya: | http://pastebin.com/SJLt8iF8 |
| [05:37:03] | jya: | let me know if that's okay and I'll push it |
| [05:37:25] | jpabq: | Not to distract you with something else, but I have noticed that timestretch playback using PCM (5.1), does have occasional issues. The audio will occasionally, briefly, repeat itself. e.g. someone will say "The weather tomorrow is going to be hot and dry to be Thursday we will see.." the the second "to be" is not suppose to be there. I am guessing it is a buffering issue of some sort. |
| [05:38:02] | jya: | what comes out of the soundtouch library, I don't know.. |
| [05:38:40] | jpabq: | I will try your patch now |
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| [05:39:47] | jya: | jpabq: it's a bit of a heavy handed fix: it set the value of timestretch everytime the audio configuration is changed as opposed to only setting timestretch once |
| [05:45:34] | jpabq: | It segfaults in AudioOutputUtil::toFloat line 494. which ends up calling a SSE function. I can try compiling with SSE disabled, but it will have to wait until tomorrow. |
| [05:48:47] | jpabq: | jya, #1 0x00007f0d76f067d1 in AudioOutputUtil::toFloat (format=FORMAT_S16, out=0x4c077e0, in=0x4f2c648, bytes=6144) at audio/audiooutpututil.cpp:494 |
| [05:49:47] | jya: | hum.. that's a 16 bytes alignment issue |
| [05:50:25] | jpabq: | x86_64 machine |
| [05:51:43] | jpabq: | jya, thanks for working on this, but I have to get up early tomorrow. Good night. |
| [05:51:57] | jya: | the SSE conversion expects all data buffer to be 16 bytes aligned |
| [05:52:09] | jya: | I thought I had identified all of those |
| [05:52:19] | jya: | if you could send me a backtrace please |
| [05:52:34] | jya: | so I can find out which buffer isn't |
| [05:57:22] | jpabq: | sent via email |
| [05:57:30] | jpabq: | jya ^ |
| [05:57:36] | jya: | thank |
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| [06:04:17] | jya: | jpabq: when you're back, please provide the whole output with -v audio thanks |
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| [08:47:06] | Beirdo: | with a count of 91 threads (including QRunnables), it's not much wonder we encounter the occasional deadlock, I think. |
| [08:47:43] | Beirdo: | that's 91 counted from the top of the mythtv repo |
| [08:48:25] | Beirdo: | I bet we could redo about half of those as QRunnable rather than the handful we have now |
| [08:48:37] | Beirdo: | but that's a job for later. Bed beckons |
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| [13:13:28] | wesw02: | I'm having a some trouble getting one of my recording to work. The recording is set to "Record this program in this timeslot every day." there are new episodes in my tv listings however this recording shows as Deactivated. Is it possible to determine why the recording is being deactivated? |
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| [13:31:54] | danielk22: | Beirdo: Converting things to QRunnable won't fix any deadlocks, and without care can actually introduce effective deadlocks since a one long running thread can prevent other quick runnables from running for a very long time. |
| [13:33:12] | danielk22: | Not that it might not be a good idea in some cases. |
| [13:37:32] | Captain_Murdoch: | danielk22, you can temporarily release and reserve threads inside a QRunnable so that long-running threads don't take up a 'slot' and prevent short-running threads from executing. I use that in the MythSystemEvent SystemEventThread which is a QRunnable. |
| [13:40:38] | Captain_Murdoch: | we could also create seperate QThreadPools. I think the only place we currently use anything other than the global thread pool is in the background image loader in MythUI. |
| [13:44:09] | danielk22: | Captain_Murdoch: sure, but you need to do that.. that's part of being careful.. as is having separate thread pools.. |
| [13:46:01] | danielk22: | I wish QThreadPool had some smarts on starting new threads like our backend worker pool so that if no thread becomes available for a certain time go ahead and start a new thread. |
| [13:47:36] | danielk22: | I guess we could easily implement a MThreadPool that had the QThreadPool interface but had some more smarts... Then we could use that everywhere we either use QThreadPool or our own pool.. |
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| [13:56:46] | jya: | jpabq: I've pushed a change ; let me know if it fixes your issue. tbh: I have no idea why it works now.. but it does and I can't be bothered any more |
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| [14:06:36] | davide_: | jya: fwiw, i've seen the same occasional, repeated audio while timestretching problem that jpabq mentioned last night. this is with fixes-0.24, btw. |
| [14:07:21] | jya: | davide_: does it occur when you turn timestretch on or once timestretch is on and has been on for a while ? |
| [14:08:07] | davide_: | after it's been on for a while. |
| [14:08:49] | davide_: | could also happen shortly after seeking, but i'm not sure, as it doesn't happen all that often. |
| [14:09:13] | jya: | it could be an issue in libsoundtouch ; I'm not the author of that library, and never looked at what it does internally |
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| [14:13:42] | danielk22: | I believe we used to use the integer path in sound touch, but now use the floating point path.. we did make some fixes to the integer path, perhaps those are not reflected in the floating point path.. |
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| [14:14:31] | jya: | danielk22: interesting.. I'll have to check what we did fix in libsoundtouch and compare that ... |
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| [14:16:43] | danielk22: | jya: That wouldn't be the first place I'd look, but it sounds like you've looked at the input to the lib already.. |
| [14:17:52] | jya: | personally, I do not use timestretch ; so my usage of it has been testing that the feature isn't broken using the samples I have |
| [14:18:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | danielk22, yeah, I had the same thought about either a MThreadPool or MRunnable. |
| [14:18:11] | jya: | it test for about 20s each sample.. |
| [14:18:41] | ** jya off to be.. ** | |
| [14:18:51] | ** jya bed that is ** | |
| [14:20:39] | danielk22: | In that case my first suspicion would be the input.. to debug I'd clear the buffers to 0's before loading in the input buffers so that if we're reading past the end of a buffer we get silence instead of repeats.. |
| [14:22:04] | danielk22: | Then I'd carefully check that the extents we're telling sound touch to process.. my first guess would be that we're telling it to read more data from the input buffer than is there due to some math error. |
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| [17:03:36] | j-rod: | hahahaha, udo. now popping up on lkml. |
| [17:04:07] | danielk22: | linux is using all the memory on his PC? ;] |
| [17:04:46] | j-rod: | heh, nah, file system went sideways |
| [17:05:05] | j-rod: | "What can be said about the BUG logging below? |
| [17:05:05] | j-rod: | Cause? Â (hw/sw) |
| [17:05:05] | j-rod: | Known?" |
| [17:05:29] | j-rod: | followed by a BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request trace with the IP at __destroy_inode |
| [17:08:35] | j-rod: | very tempted to reply "mythtv must have used up all your system memory, hence the crash" :D |
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| [17:46:50] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: Just wanted to give you a heads up after your html setup translation change--I'm currently working a patch that will update the config_backend_general.xml text to agree with what we have in mythtv-setup (while taking into account updates to the config_backend_general.xml file since it went in). We had a couple of commits that fixed a ton of text in backendsettings.cpp, but they happened sometime within the year(?) between when ... |
| [17:46:56] | sphery: | ... danielk22 created that xml file and the initial patch, and when Robert K. put the branch in place. |
| [17:47:03] | sphery: | After doing so, many more of the text strings will likely be translated. |
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| [18:29:24] | Knaldgas: | Hi – I have a dedicated backend running on a server which is configured for UTC, however I would like the MythTV backend to run with another timezone, Howto? |
| [18:33:08] | Knaldgas: | DUH! Wrong channel, sorry guys |
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| [18:51:10] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, thanks. sounds good. the .xml files need an audit, I think daniel mentioned that in the ticket the patch was originally attached to. |
| [18:53:39] | sphery: | yeah, and I had promised to do this, but kept putting it off because I didn't want to do it multiple times--figure now I can do it and it will only need doing once (since you guys are actually getting the web setup done :) |
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| [19:03:41] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, I'd like to start ripping things out of mythtv-setup if they are functional in the web setup at some point, things like the new jobqueue will only be in the web setup, so hopefully we can get to a point where we don't have to maintain two places for things like that. |
| [19:04:25] | sphery: | Yeah--I was mainly concerned about updating the XML in the ticket multiple times as we updated the backendsettings.cpp text. |
| [19:04:27] | Captain_Murdoch: | ideally, we could easily rip out the regular 'settings' table type settings, the jobqueue setup, storage groups, system events, and maybe a few other things out of mythtv-setup in a month or two. |
| [19:04:39] | sphery: | now that it's not a ticket, that's not an issue :) |
| [19:04:48] | sphery: | the dream is now reality :) |
| [19:15:11] | wagnerrp: | is the final goal to remove mythtv-setup entirely? |
| [19:15:26] | wagnerrp: | i know there was some talk about altering it to use the new backend xml interfaces |
| [19:15:34] | wagnerrp: | as an alternative to the web UI |
| [19:15:51] | wagnerrp: | just as a different 'frontend' to the setup |
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| [21:24:58] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, final goal is no mythtv-setup, w/ all backend config done via HTML setup. |
| [21:25:23] | Captain_Murdoch: | final goal is you install a server, install/start mythbackend, hit it with a web browser and configure it. |
| [21:26:40] | Captain_Murdoch: | or perhaps, restated how I think it might be best, you hit the new slave with a web browser, tell it where the Master is, and then configure everything else via the master's web interface. |
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| [21:27:52] | Captain_Murdoch: | or perhaps s/tell it where the master is/pick the appropriate master from a list/ |
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| [21:33:32] | ** Beirdo beers Captain_Murdoch :) ** | |
| [21:36:14] | wagnerrp: | ok, i remember the possibility of an external application interfacing through the new backend methods in the past |
| [21:36:23] | wagnerrp: | but i guess that got nixed since no one actually wants to maintain it |
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| [22:18:35] | dblain: | wagnerrp: That's still an option. All the functionality needed for a alternate setup application will be exposed, I think it was just decided we weren't going to create one that we would have to maintain. |
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