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| [00:17:33] | hikenboot: | thanks at least it gets me an exra hard drive |
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| [00:18:30] | wagnerrp: | an old heavily used one... |
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| [00:45:44] | jya: | iamlindoro: where could I find the libbd+ you mentioned a few days ago ? |
| [00:49:36] | wagnerrp: | i dont believe its yet publically available |
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| [01:03:08] | jpabq: | jya, the distortion is not consistent. If I hear a little, and rewind, it won't be there the next time around. |
| [01:06:07] | jpabq: | Odd. I can no longer just type "git pull". If I do it complains that I am "not currently on a branch". However, "git pull git@github.com :MythTV/mythtv.git" works. |
| [01:09:18] | superm1: | jpabq, try to checkout master and then pull should hopefully work |
| [01:10:48] | jpabq: | superm1, indeed. Thanks. I had forgotten that I had switched to a previous commit state. |
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| [01:12:40] | jya: | jpabq: yeah, I found that the noise distortion occurs even when I reverted that part of the code.. so the problem was introduced elsewhere... |
| [01:13:07] | jya: | jpabq: when you type git branch what does it say? |
| [01:13:36] | jpabq: | jya, superm1 figured out my problem. |
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| [01:14:07] | jpabq: | jya, I can still provide a sample for you, but it would probably need to be several minutes to make sure you notice the problem. |
| [01:14:08] | jya: | jpabq: yes, I read. But git branch thenwould have shown you what version you were at |
| [01:14:21] | jya: | jpabq: it's better than nothing |
| [01:14:31] | jpabq: | Ah. okay. I already switched to master. |
| [01:15:03] | jpabq: | jya, you still notice the problem with your source material? |
| [01:15:10] | jya: | no :( |
| [01:15:23] | jya: | well, no matter the code : I don't always see it |
| [01:15:26] | jya: | it's not consistent |
| [01:15:37] | jya: | I thought I could always hear it, but the fact is I can't |
| [01:15:52] | jpabq: | Yeah, it is not consistent. |
| [01:16:05] | jya: | Must be in relation to writing the data to the AC3 encoder ; edge cases where some samples are missed |
| [01:16:20] | jya: | I write in a loop so I never overflow the buffer |
| [01:16:32] | jya: | there are like 5 different buffers , all of them in a different size |
| [01:16:41] | jpabq: | I did notice, that if I rewind, the spot that had the distortion the first time around, sometimes has a short silence instead the second time around. |
| [01:16:42] | iamlindoro: | jya, wagnerrp had it right, they haven't released it yet, but occasionally they're bump things in libbluray to keep up with the private libbdplus api, so AFAICT we would work with it if one had a current copy (I do not) |
| [01:16:52] | jya: | so I write in loops for all buffer (upmixer, resampler, timestretch, ac3 encoder etc..) |
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| [01:19:57] | iamlindoro: | dblain, Captain_Murdoch: Just pushed changes to the channel editor so that the sourceid is no longer hardcoded-- you should now be able to select your video source from the dropdown and simulate deletes/edits/etc. |
| [01:20:44] | iamlindoro: | oh, and multiselect/multidelete now implemented too, so it should be very fast to delete long lists of unwanted channels-- the delete iteration itself is a bit broken ATM but I'll get it fixed |
| [01:21:03] | iamlindoro: | will probably also add a context menu to allow multiselect and then right click->Make invisible, etc. |
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| [01:48:47] | markk: | iamlindoro: just a heads up – iOS devices don't seem to like the www setup at the moment. I can give you js errors if needed. |
| [01:49:25] | iamlindoro: | I am a long way from worrying about mobile browsers but sure, couldn't hurt-- on which screens? |
| [01:51:05] | iamlindoro: | Honestly I'm not likely to look too far into them-- I think it's fair to say you need to use a real browser to configure myth, and this stuff is hard enough without having to worry about every browser's quirks |
| [01:52:36] | markk: | iamlindoro: various screens – but consistent errors. generally speaking js/util.qjs – line 23 or 25 – ReferenceError: Can't find variable: showEditWindow or hideEditWindow |
| [01:54:01] | iamlindoro: | Must be something different about the way mobile safari loads js... Line references are odd, though, as they're just brackets |
| [01:54:55] | iamlindoro: | A quick test of desktop Safari shows that it works ok... hmm, wonder what iOS does differently |
| [02:00:58] | elmojo: | markk: Nice work on the dynamic video buffer allocation for VDPAU! I'm sure you are glad to have that one off your list, finally. :) |
| [02:05:10] | markk: | elmojo: thanks – though you did the tricky bit – queue extended round of mutual back slapping :) |
| [02:05:42] | markk: | btw – do you think your buffer fixes might help with CrystalHD ? |
| [02:06:28] | elmojo: | markk: not really, I dug into that problem and the CHD decoder caused the huge delays – but I could be wrong |
| [02:06:45] | elmojo: | I'll give it another shot on my laptop real quick |
| [02:07:38] | elmojo: | I'd still like to just use the ffmpeg CHD support and not worry about it anymore :) |
| [02:09:09] | markk: | yeah – we need an ffmpeg sync first though... |
| [02:09:49] | elmojo: | just checked and the behavior is exactly the same for crystalhd as before the buffer changes |
| [02:10:13] | elmojo: | I actually wouldn't mind getting a newer sync than first proposed |
| [02:10:57] | elmojo: | seems like the ffmpeg-mt merge would be VERY nice and the CrystalHD improvements are still getting committed |
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| [02:14:18] | markk: | I'm not so sure that including -mt is a good idea until it's proven to be stable. |
| [02:15:20] | elmojo: | I have the same concern but on flipside it's not new code by any means as it's been available for years |
| [02:16:50] | elmojo: | I bet iamlindoro will appreciate the new, improved buffer code as it's one less reason to use mplayer for anything :) |
| [02:17:12] | iamlindoro: | I'd sooner watch macroblocks than use mplayer ;) |
| [02:17:35] | elmojo: | heh, what port does the setup code run on? |
| [02:17:42] | iamlindoro: | 6544 |
| [02:17:46] | elmojo: | curious what you guys are up to |
| [02:17:54] | iamlindoro: | porn portal |
| [02:19:44] | elmojo: | it's asking for username/password, I'm already locked out :) |
| [02:19:47] | Captain_Murdoch: | can the internal player playback mp4 w/ h264 and aac? or do we still need to enable compilation with libfaad to get that functionality? |
| [02:19:50] | Captain_Murdoch: | elmojo, admin/mythtv |
| [02:20:30] | markk: | I don't think I've had to enable libfaad for a long time |
| [02:20:38] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch, my understanding is that libfaad is no longer needed, nor can you even compile against it |
| [02:20:39] | Captain_Murdoch: | elmojo, it asked for a username/pw when you went into something under setup right? |
| [02:20:55] | elmojo: | yes |
| [02:20:56] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, so ffmpeg/libav/whatever has aac decoder builtin now? |
| [02:21:12] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [02:21:16] | Captain_Murdoch: | great. I haven't tried recently and I'm on an older version in production where i had to use libfaad. |
| [02:21:24] | Captain_Murdoch: | great. thanks. |
| [02:22:20] | elmojo: | wow, that setup looks fantastic |
| [02:22:22] | Captain_Murdoch: | there goes my main argument for external player support, although I still think we should have a deeply-buried-in-the-menu fallback player or maybe an expert setting to enable a menu option. |
| [02:23:50] | elmojo: | Captain_Murdoch: I think one of the reasons they want to get of external support is to combine the recording and video handling |
| [02:23:57] | Captain_Murdoch: | elmojo, storage group and jobqueue jobs editting are about the only saving currently hooked up, the other settings type stuff needs some validation code in js and cpp and save code in cpp. |
| [02:25:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | elmojo, yeah, I agree on the concept, but there will always be some format where we are behind the ball on even on our master code, and for users running older versions of MythTV that they can't upgrade for one reason or another, so being able to call out to mplayer or something would help. |
| [02:27:30] | elmojo: | Captain_Murdoch: it's a valid concern but to be fair every player should have external support based on that requirement :) |
| [02:27:48] | elmojo: | I'd like to know what we can't play right now |
| [02:28:05] | markk: | Captain_Murdoch: older versions I 'm not really bothered bout – but going forward, having an external player option is madness from my perspective |
| [02:28:16] | elmojo: | we are way ahead of most players right now with regards to features |
| [02:29:11] | elmojo: | we have the best deinterlacing support, OSD, timestretch, subtitles, etc, etc than any player on linux or windows for that matter |
| [02:29:50] | markk: | and bug's never get reported if people just opt to launch something else that happens to work for that clip |
| [02:32:58] | elmojo: | we should just run XBMC in a plugin – people would love that |
| [02:36:10] | Beirdo: | Well, I think it's about time to sync that ffmpeg in |
| [02:36:43] | Beirdo: | OMG, did I ever have my client far back in the scrollback |
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| [02:48:47] | Beirdo: | OK, merged master -> ffmpeg-02-20–2011 |
| [02:56:46] | Beirdo: | any objections to doing the ffmpeg sync at this point? |
| [02:57:25] | elmojo: | Beirdo: is that the date right before the split? |
| [02:57:45] | Beirdo: | that was before the split to libav, yes |
| [02:57:59] | Beirdo: | after the switch to git, before the fork |
| [02:58:17] | elmojo: | cool, no objections here, but it might be nice to let the buffer changes soak for a couple days in case a regression gets introduced |
| [02:58:33] | Beirdo: | the fork was 03–13, it looks like |
| [02:58:48] | Beirdo: | OK, your changes that is? |
| [02:58:59] | Beirdo: | No problems with that, sounds like a plan then |
| [02:59:13] | elmojo: | Beirdo: do you see any CrystalHD changes between 02-20–2011 and 03-13–2011 |
| [02:59:22] | elmojo: | yes, mine and Mark's changes |
| [02:59:38] | Beirdo: | I haven't looked since the sync point, but I can |
| [03:00:43] | Beirdo: | I'll be out thursday-sunday... I can look at doing a merge back after that, assuming no nasties come up during that time to prevent it |
| [03:01:10] | elmojo: | Beirdo: I think next Monday would be ideal |
| [03:01:23] | Beirdo: | meanwhile, I'll go see if I can find you any CrystalHD changes :) |
| [03:01:46] | Beirdo: | OK. Let's plan on next Monday unless something causes us to wait at that point. |
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| [03:09:13] | Beirdo: | elmojo: what's the filename for the CrystalHD stuff in ffmpeg? You know offhand? |
| [03:10:44] | elmojo: | libavcodec/crystalhd.* |
| [03:11:07] | Beirdo: | thanks |
| [03:13:46] | Beirdo: | OK, here's the scoop... |
| [03:13:52] | Beirdo: | it's not in libav. |
| [03:13:57] | Beirdo: | it IS in ffmpeg |
| [03:14:13] | Beirdo: | the first commit I see is at 03-10–2011 |
| [03:14:34] | Beirdo: | and it's fairly active, last commit 2 days ago |
| [03:14:47] | elmojo: | I was wondering about that – when you check out Phillip Langdale's mplayer git repo it retrieves ffmpeg from videolan |
| [03:15:04] | Beirdo: | yeah, which seems to be ffmpeg.org's fork |
| [03:15:22] | Captain_Murdoch: | Beirdo, why do we need to sync ffmpeg in, we can play everything already. ;) |
| [03:15:37] | Beirdo: | this may well strongly influence which way we lean over time |
| [03:15:48] | Beirdo: | Captain_Murdoch: you silly :) |
| [03:16:02] | Beirdo: | good to see ya on :) |
| [03:16:21] | elmojo: | Captain_Murdoch: it's provides HD bitstreaming for one – other than that I don't know what is new |
| [03:16:46] | Captain_Murdoch: | elmojo, markk, I won't argue the point, I'll just patch in a menu item if I need one, but I think it may be a bit naive to expect users always to run our latest and greatest to get support for the media they want to play. |
| [03:16:51] | Beirdo: | this sync actually adds a lot in the area of the subtitling, etc. |
| [03:17:33] | Beirdo: | Captain_Murdoch: you aren't actually serious here are ya? |
| [03:17:41] | Captain_Murdoch: | especially with the forking of ffmpeg/libav. unless we are going to keep a 3-way sync with them or expect them to keep themselves synced feature-wise. |
| [03:18:48] | Captain_Murdoch: | Beirdo, somewhat, but like I said, I won't argue and won't put in a patch to reimplement external playback if it's taken out. |
| [03:19:18] | Beirdo: | that would be one more thing for you to maintain for one thing :) |
| [03:19:24] | Captain_Murdoch: | I'm not trying to slam on the work you guys have done either. It's great. |
| [03:19:53] | Beirdo: | the whole ffmpeg forking is really a bummer |
| [03:20:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | Beirdo, I guess I don't have much faith in ffmpeg/libav being an easy road, so I want to keep options open for users. |
| [03:20:16] | Beirdo: | at some point we'll have to step off the fence, I guess, but for now, we can ride it a bit longer |
| [03:20:27] | Beirdo: | agreed |
| [03:20:45] | Beirdo: | a three-way merge will be painful, I'd bet |
| [03:21:12] | Captain_Murdoch: | one of them is going to commit a huge change that the other is going to laugh at sometime and then the featuresets and codec supports will start diverging. |
| [03:21:20] | Beirdo: | it can likely be done, but... |
| [03:21:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | s/codec supports/codecs support/ |
| [03:21:46] | Beirdo: | yeah, but if it's a codec we don't care about, we can ignore it. Still requires more work on our part though |
| [03:22:13] | Beirdo: | depends on how much they diverge, and if they manage to keep a common core |
| [03:22:45] | elmojo: | Captain_Murdoch: I don't have a single sample from all the past bug reports that we can not play properly now – like Mark said if users just use mplayer instead of filing a bug report then we don't get a chance to fix the problem |
| [03:22:54] | Beirdo: | for instance, I'd be surprised if the crystalhd stuff couldn't be easily hacked into libav at this point |
| [03:23:07] | Captain_Murdoch: | right, we can ignore it (and users in the process, making them transcode) :) anyway, I said my peace, I don't want anyone else to go out of contact for a while. :) |
| [03:23:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | elmojo, playability and codec support are two different things. I'm talking the later. |
| [03:23:38] | Beirdo: | well, for mythtv to be what it's designed for, we only REALLY need to decode what's used by capture devices |
| [03:24:07] | Captain_Murdoch: | Beirdo, we're not just TV anymore, this ain't your fathers oldsmobile. :) |
| [03:24:13] | Beirdo: | we keep adding on cool extra stuff for videos of any provenance, but that's not the core of MythTV |
| [03:24:34] | Beirdo: | MythTV is for recording TV, not for downloading from your favorite online group |
| [03:24:42] | Captain_Murdoch: | the core is changing. |
| [03:24:45] | Beirdo: | we have never once stepped away from that stance |
| [03:24:49] | Captain_Murdoch: | I'm not talking about downloading. |
| [03:24:51] | Beirdo: | and we shouldn't |
| [03:24:59] | Captain_Murdoch: | downloaders can go get arrested. :) |
| [03:25:21] | Captain_Murdoch: | I'm just talking codecs. it doesn't have to be illegal to be new. |
| [03:25:24] | elmojo: | Captain_Murdoch: no worries, I understand your point and really don't care one way or the other – but if supporting external support becomes a burden in the future then we'll have to way the advantage/disadvantage |
| [03:25:26] | Beirdo: | so what... for TV that they recorded and then transcoded into some codec we don't support? |
| [03:25:34] | Beirdo: | that would be silly :) |
| [03:26:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | years ago, MythTV didn't support my ipod encoded videos, who's to say it will support the ipod 12 encoded videos. we're at the mercy of whichever fork we choose. |
| [03:26:57] | Beirdo: | if it's not video they recorded themselves, I don't really care if we ever support it. |
| [03:27:03] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [03:27:36] | Beirdo: | yeah, so it's video they did record, then transcoded, and now mythtv may not be able to play? That would be unfortunate |
| [03:27:53] | Beirdo: | we may be at the mercy of the fork we choose. |
| [03:27:58] | Captain_Murdoch: | I don't want to see us spread our resources thin on codecs. final comment (on that subject). :) |
| [03:28:06] | Beirdo: | however, we've been at teh mercy of ffmpeg already. |
| [03:28:30] | Beirdo: | yeah, I don't want to waste OUR time coding new codecs and hacking together support |
| [03:28:37] | Beirdo: | we have much better things to aim at |
| [03:28:56] | markk: | Beirdo: I agree with Captain_Murdoch. things have moved on. 90% of the material I now watch is not recorded by mythtv – but it's all legal (well – here at least) |
| [03:29:47] | Beirdo: | well, the official stance of mythtv as a project has always been about recording TV |
| [03:29:49] | zombor: | do you want to be like xbmc, but with better tv support? |
| [03:30:12] | Beirdo: | not about playback of videos from other sources |
| [03:30:27] | Captain_Murdoch: | we're already talking of moving the 3 main plugins into the core. MythVideo, MythMusic, and MythGallery. Those are the new core. |
| [03:30:37] | Beirdo: | and that's how we've been able to maintain some sort of moral high ground |
| [03:30:42] | zombor: | Beirdo: i like that goal. i only use myth tv for recoding ota tv, then transcoding it for use in xbmc |
| [03:31:55] | Beirdo: | first I've heard of plans to take MythGallery into the core |
| [03:32:12] | Captain_Murdoch: | Beirdo, I think there is enough legal content out there for us to support in-core the playing of non-TV material. I'm not saying integrate bearshare (or whatever tools they use now) into MythTV, but MythNetVision has a lot of the same things that my Roku and GoogleTV box have as far as internet content viewing. |
| [03:32:49] | Beirdo: | well, fair enough |
| [03:33:05] | Captain_Murdoch: | Beirdo: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/FutureDevelopment first item in the 'high priority' section. been there a long time. |
| [03:33:33] | Captain_Murdoch: | and I didn't put it there. :) |
| [03:34:08] | Beirdo: | interesting |
| [03:34:23] | Beirdo: | certainly not a bad idea |
| [03:34:53] | Beirdo: | we still should be cognizant of how we are viewed by the outside world |
| [03:35:32] | Beirdo: | supporting every newfangled video codec has less to do with legit uses and more to do with illegit uses in many cases |
| [03:36:17] | Beirdo: | over time, yeah, there will be legitimate video available in format X, but by that time, whatever library we choose is likely to have support |
| [03:36:37] | Beirdo: | the ones we *MUST* support are MPEG2, MPEG4, H.264 |
| [03:36:55] | Beirdo: | as that's still going to be the majority of content out there, TV or otherwise |
| [03:37:38] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [03:37:49] | Beirdo: | just thinking outloud, partially here |
| [03:38:22] | Captain_Murdoch: | now you're getting back to what I said I wouldn't comment on anymore, so I'm quiet. :) |
| [03:38:26] | Beirdo: | and really, the core of what we support, we do support quite well, thanks in a large part to ffmpeg, and to markk's hard work too. |
| [03:38:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | I agree on the image aspect. |
| [03:40:02] | Beirdo: | but for now... let's just leave it at: the future is nebulous ;) |
| [04:00:17] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: the only two new codecs in the works are webm, which is really only going to be used for flash5, in which case i assume it would be handled by qwebkit |
| [04:00:26] | wagnerrp: | and h265, which is due out in draft in about a year |
| [04:01:03] | Beirdo: | right. |
| [04:01:24] | Beirdo: | webm will be supported by ffmpeg/libav soon enough, I would expect |
| [04:01:29] | Beirdo: | if not there yet |
| [04:01:45] | wagnerrp: | thats not something that would be picked up natively by webkit? |
| [04:01:51] | wagnerrp: | we would have to provide decoding support? |
| [04:01:54] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [04:02:06] | Beirdo: | we might if we wanted hardware accel support |
| [04:05:09] | Beirdo: | I guess we shall see |
| [04:05:31] | Beirdo: | H.265 may become the next capture format for all we know too |
| [04:06:22] | Beirdo: | but, until we get there... we'll never know |
| [04:06:46] | wagnerrp: | well final spec isnt until 2013, meaning hardware likely wont come out for at least another 6 months to a year |
| [04:06:55] | wagnerrp: | so thats all a long way off |
| [04:08:05] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [04:08:21] | Beirdo: | we'll consider dealing with it ... later :) |
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| [05:16:35] | wagnerrp: | markk: cherry picking not good enough for you? |
| [05:19:46] | markk: | ? |
| [05:21:12] | wagnerrp: | 'Pimped from master' |
| [05:21:14] | wagnerrp: | :P |
| [05:21:43] | markk: | ah – I must stop that :) |
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| [08:23:45] | eamon_: | can mythtv play bluray disk? |
| [08:24:12] | eamon_: | sorry, wrong channel. |
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| [10:18:34] | kleinlappeis: | hey guys |
| [10:18:54] | kleinlappeis: | are there any DSTV (south african pay tv) users here? |
| [10:19:16] | kleinlappeis: | looking for channel change help |
| [10:38:13] | ** justinh points at the channel topic ** | |
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| [11:56:10] | KaZeR_W: | justinh, i was contacted by stuarta a few days about about the registration of a child channel of #mythtv (#mythtv-fr in fact) |
| [11:56:23] | KaZeR_W: | can you help on this topic, or should i wait a bit more? |
| [11:56:50] | justinh: | I don't have anything to do with the operation of this channel :-) |
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| [12:03:58] | KaZeR_W: | ah ok :) |
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| [15:03:36] | elmojo: | markk: thought this article might interest you -> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article . . . eo&num=1 |
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| [15:50:03] | kvarley: | I'm looking for a USB DVB-S (S2 as well preferrably) TV box, can you recommend any good ones with Linux support? |
| [15:51:36] | wagnerrp: | this is the development channel, not user support |
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| [16:05:14] | wagnerrp: | kvarley: that was directed at you |
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| [16:07:37] | kvarley: | wagnerrp: Ooopps, my bad, sorry |
| [16:12:43] | wagnerrp: | according to the topic, the user support channel is #mythtv-users |
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| [19:42:38] | iamlindoro: | Sigh, it makes me a little sad that there are users who will complain that, in the new, ideally simple to use HTML setup, we don't expose the XMLTVid and Multiplex ID at the topmost level of the channel editor (instead they are in a dialog, under an advanced settings dropdown) |
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| [19:42:46] | iamlindoro: | damned if you make things easier to use, damned if you don't |
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| [19:44:08] | iamlindoro: | That is to say, the guy wants xmltvid and multiplex id to be displayed in the channel list view-- my personal feeling is that we need to come up with a way so that the user never needs to know that those things even exist |
| [19:44:20] | iamlindoro: | But I'm writing it, so I get my way :P |
| [19:53:57] | dekarl: | iamlindoro: +1 for matching dvb/atsc ids directly to xmltv ids :D |
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