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| [00:47:32] | sphery: | wagnerrp: no, I mean we need to delete immediately (and, in the event that we have slow deletes enabled, that means after opening the file)... That way, if mythbackend crashes, the file is actually deleted and not orphaned |
| [00:47:51] | sphery: | the slow delete can't wait 2min/gig to delete the second file, or we may leave orphans |
| [00:48:22] | sphery: | (or just not delete a file and metadata that a user said to delete)... |
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| [00:49:28] | sphery: | it's quite possible the current code takes care of all that for us, now, before creating the thread... just saying that the approach shouldn't change |
| [00:51:05] | sphery: | (and by that, I mean shouldn't change by accident) |
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| [01:07:44] | wagnerrp: | i was planning on having the thread issue a signal on completion of deletion, that could be used to delete the metadata after the file is gone |
| [01:38:12] | Captain_Murdoch: | metadata gets deleted before the file during slow deletes. |
| [01:38:23] | Captain_Murdoch: | ie, the file itself is gone but still taking up space. |
| [01:38:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | as we truncate |
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| [01:39:07] | wagnerrp: | so if the backend crashes on a slow delete, the file is orphaned |
| [01:39:13] | Captain_Murdoch: | the current method is easy and is only an 'issue' when people delete a playlist of recordings and then only on atom backends which can only handle 64 threads at a time. :) |
| [01:39:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | no, the file is unlinked before we return, then we truncate the opened-unlinked file. |
| [01:39:38] | sphery: | we use "delete on last close" |
| [01:40:17] | sphery: | i.e. we open the file, delete it (which does nothing because it's open), then truncate it down to < 4MB or so, then close it, which deletes it |
| [01:40:30] | wagnerrp: | so effectively we have an open file that no longer exists in the folder structure? |
| [01:41:03] | sphery: | right... doesn't exist for anyone who looks at the folder after we delete, but the file system maintains the file until it's closed |
| [01:41:14] | sphery: | which happens when a) we close it or b) we crash :) |
| [01:42:09] | sphery: | that way, the delete /is/ in fact instantaneous (so we an delete both file and metadata without worrying about orphans), but we can truncate it down slowly to be extra nice to the file system |
| [01:42:54] | Captain_Murdoch: | we should use that method all the time, even for non-slow deletes. then if slow deletes is on, we truncate, otherwise we just close which does a fast delete. |
| [01:43:26] | Captain_Murdoch: | that way the 'delete' command returns quicker even when slow deletes is turned off but the user has a slow-deleting filesystem. |
| [01:49:37] | sphery: | makes sense... |
| [01:50:03] | sphery: | only downside is that NFS doesn't always handle delete on last close properly (i.e. may leave files in place, depending on server and clients in use) |
| [01:50:11] | Captain_Murdoch: | makes the code path simpler and UI more responsive. |
| [01:51:13] | sphery: | seems to work ok using the "silly rename" approach used by relatively modern Linux kernel/drivers, but at least one user (Yeechang Lee) had an NAS box where it didn't work. |
| [01:51:23] | Captain_Murdoch: | ah, that'd be annoying. and people joke me for using CentOS 5. :) |
| [01:51:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | think I remember something about that now that you mention it. |
| [01:52:33] | sphery: | heh, yeah, it's quite possible it's all better now, but we could always do open->delete->possibly truncate->close->check for existence and re-delete |
| [01:52:56] | sphery: | don't know if that takes away the simplification benefit, though :) |
| [01:53:27] | sphery: | oh, but if it did a silly rename, we wouldn't know the new name... :( |
| [01:54:36] | sphery: | (maybe get a pre-delete hash, then after open->delete->possibly truncate->close, we check for existence /and/ check for .nfs* files that match the hash, then re-delete? |
| [01:54:58] | sphery: | but hash would have changed if did truncate... so, I give up |
| [01:55:37] | sphery: | we change it to the simpler open->delete->possibly truncate->close approach and see if anyone yells? |
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| [01:58:58] | sphery: | probably the right approach would be to store file system information, and run a test on each file system at each startup... create some flag file, open, delete, close, then look for that file, and if it exists, delete it, then disable the delete-on-last-close for that file system (from this backend) |
| [01:59:25] | sphery: | then we could just remove the whole setting and do the right thing |
| [02:00:08] | Captain_Murdoch: | you can add that to your TODO list. :) sounds nice. |
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| [02:03:05] | sphery: | heh, will do |
| [02:08:00] | elmojo: | markk: heh, that patch I sent to you last night did contain a change to videoout_vdpau so I guess it's not surprising it helped |
| [02:08:35] | elmojo: | for h.264 with 16 reference frames I assume increasing the VDPAU buffers is a must |
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| [02:21:51] | wagnerrp: | elmojo: i get the feeling he didnt get that one |
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| [02:23:04] | elmojo: | no worries |
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| [02:46:13] | elmojo: | markk: how many vdpau buffers did you use for killasample? |
| [02:47:02] | markk: | elmojo: it plays fine with 20. regardless of how many buffers I use, still get the startup issues. |
| [02:48:26] | elmojo: | markk: are the startup issues seen with Xv? |
| [02:48:33] | elmojo: | or ffplay? |
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| [02:53:29] | markk: | elmojo: same with xv. can't test ffplay at the moment (all SG based and be is otherwise occupied) |
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| [03:06:02] | elmojo: | markk: heh, mythffplay only plays audio for killasample on my laptop :) the video immediately freezes |
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| [05:17:13] | knightr: | wagnerrp, looks like the post commit hook uses the author for the comment it insert in Trac and not the name of the person who sign-off (when they are different) see ticket #9686 (and I saw another one earlier today) |
| [05:19:17] | ** wagnerrp starts digging through the JSON logs ** | |
| [05:21:15] | wagnerrp: | shouldnt it be the author, and not the signer, who gets the comment? |
| [05:22:19] | knightr: | wagnerrp, it's the comment I made when I committed so I would have thought it should have used the signer |
| [05:22:34] | knightr: | but I could be wrong about this... |
| [05:23:04] | wagnerrp: | hehe... it calls you a pusher |
| [05:23:23] | knightr: | :) |
| [05:23:42] | knightr: | any risk of getting arrested for that? :) |
| [05:23:56] | wagnerrp: | ive never actually signed off on one, i figured it was the author who wrote the commit message |
| [05:24:11] | wagnerrp: | although that wouldnt really make sense for them to talk about themselves in the third person |
| [05:24:19] | wagnerrp: | some people though... |
| [05:24:28] | knightr: | lol |
| [05:24:37] | wagnerrp: | (especially those who have pushers) |
| [05:24:52] | knightr: | rotfl... |
| [05:25:07] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: yeah, that's how trac is doing it, which is silly, it puts the author |
| [05:26:20] | knightr: | please look at 9714, that's where it happened for you too Beirdo I think... |
| [05:26:39] | Beirdo: | it's supposed to |
| [05:26:56] | Beirdo: | --author= sets the author, which is not the committer |
| [05:27:28] | Beirdo: | I don't think the committer information is being separately passed in the JSON from github, but I can check again |
| [05:27:29] | wagnerrp: | well a couple lines and i can get it to use the committer rather than the author, if thats what we want |
| [05:27:37] | wagnerrp: | yeah, it is |
| [05:27:40] | Beirdo: | and have it say it in the email if they don't match |
| [05:27:41] | Beirdo: | K |
| [05:27:43] | wagnerrp: | not for the commit, but for the push |
| [05:27:51] | Beirdo: | remind me when I'm more sober :) |
| [05:27:58] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [05:28:04] | Beirdo: | well, that's lame |
| [05:28:09] | Beirdo: | the info's in git log |
| [05:28:21] | Beirdo: | stupid hook doesn't bother to say |
| [05:28:48] | Beirdo: | pusher != committer necessarily |
| [05:29:04] | wagnerrp: | oh? |
| [05:29:31] | Beirdo: | think if you have a branch |
| [05:29:58] | Beirdo: | I could pull the branch from you directly, add stuff, and push the whole lot ot github |
| [05:30:09] | Beirdo: | granted, it USUALLY will match |
| [05:30:18] | Beirdo: | but there are cases where they won't |
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| [05:31:01] | knightr: | pusher would be usually better than author if they are different most of the time though (if committer is not available...) |
| [05:31:09] | Beirdo: | not sure what to suggest on the trac comment author. might wanna try pusher for now, I guess |
| [05:31:14] | wagnerrp: | my vote is to leave it as the author, but change it to the author's email |
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| [05:31:43] | Beirdo: | k. that works too. as long as we remember the sign-off, we are good anyways |
| [05:31:45] | wagnerrp: | since technically, the author did write the patch, even if the committer wrote the message |
| [05:32:02] | wagnerrp: | the signoff is automatically added to the comment |
| [05:32:16] | Beirdo: | if ya remember the -s :) |
| [05:32:34] | Anssi: | on xbmc we simply used a static name ("Github Janitor") for trac to solve this issue :) |
| [05:32:39] | Beirdo: | wonder if there's a way to automagically set that if you forget... |
| [05:32:40] | knightr: | wagnerrp, did you look at 9714, it looks like the ticket was closed and milestone set by the author and in my case it looks like it's Daniel that's making the comment... |
| [05:33:22] | Beirdo: | knightr: yeah, it looks odd, doesn't it? ;) |
| [05:33:42] | knightr: | wagnerrp, Anssi idea is interesting too.. |
| [05:33:43] | Beirdo: | that's the github-trac integration hook that could likely need a tweak |
| [05:33:49] | wagnerrp: | knightr: yeah, but theres nothing to match up the pusher to a trac username either |
| [05:34:00] | wagnerrp: | so one way or another, its going to look odd |
| [05:34:06] | Beirdo: | heh, yeah |
| [05:34:14] | knightr: | Beirdo, kinda, I wondered if we had somebody new when I saw that on the ticket you committed earlier... |
| [05:34:29] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:34:39] | wagnerrp: | if i used the pusher, it would be 'nriendeau@mythtv.org ' or 'nriendeau'... but not your trac account 'knight' |
| [05:34:48] | knightr: | wagnerrp, nope, you're right, but at least we will recognize who it is... |
| [05:35:13] | Beirdo: | we could over time migrate our trac userids to match. |
| [05:35:18] | wagnerrp: | which is why i say use the author's email, so at least we have a point of contact without having to look into github |
| [05:35:19] | markk: | elmojo: that clip plays fine with vdpau (and your patch applied). with xvideo the corruption is around the osd – which ties up with the issue of the decoder using frames we've already filtered. |
| [05:35:27] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [05:35:36] | Beirdo: | email is better than just the name |
| [05:35:38] | knightr: | wagnerrp, do we have the full names on trac? Could we try to match using them if we have them? |
| [05:36:21] | knightr: | hmm, looks like we don't... |
| [05:36:51] | wagnerrp: | ive got my full name and email listed on my account, i could figure out a way to look those up and get a trac account name from that |
| [05:37:27] | knightr: | but it looks like we only have a username on Trac and as you said, at least in my case, it doesn't match... |
| [05:37:40] | wagnerrp: | or yes... we could just use Anssi's recommendation of just saying its from 'Github' |
| [05:37:57] | knightr: | wagnerrp, I kinda like that idea... |
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| [05:39:01] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: just say the comment is from 'Github'? |
| [05:39:17] | Beirdo: | I'm fine with that, but I'm not too picky :) |
| [05:39:40] | Beirdo: | the email would work too, but others likely are more picky about it |
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| [05:40:29] | wagnerrp: | well its Github now |
| [05:41:36] | Beirdo: | K :) |
| [05:41:50] | Beirdo: | I'm sure someone will pipe up with a "whaaaa?" soon enough |
| [05:42:07] | wagnerrp: | very possibly |
| [05:42:47] | knightr: | wagnerrp, Thanks! It will make way more sense that way I think.... Do you do it always though or only if author != pusher ? |
| [05:43:01] | Beirdo: | thanks again for taking on the trac integration |
| [05:43:04] | wagnerrp: | always |
| [05:43:57] | knightr: | wagnerrp, thanks, we'll see how that goes, should be OK since we see the commit messages anyway with the full info... |
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| [13:56:40] | elmojo: | markk: good to hear – it's neat to see the OSD get blended into the decoding process under Xv :) |
| [13:57:25] | elmojo: | did the video zoom in and out for you? I wonder if auto-zoom is kicking in but I don't think I ever would have enabled such a feature |
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