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Saturday, April 2nd, 2011, 00:14 UTC
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[02:48:48] dblain: Captain_Murdoch: Your changes look fine. Good catch! thanks for taking care of it.
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[03:17:17] Captain_Murdoch: dblain, ok, thanks.
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[09:29:37] stuartm: xris: seems mailman's -request address acts as an open relay which spammers are abusing to send spam from mythtv.org – it's a problem that the mailman devs were made aware of as far back as 2006 but they didn't seem to do anything about it except recommending that the -request address be blacklisted/removed from aliases
[09:30:13] stuartm: xris: I can't see another solution, there's no config option to disable mail-backs from -request to unsubscribed addresses
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[09:35:16] xris: Beirdo: ^^^^^^
[09:37:29] xris: stuartm: awesomeness
[09:37:45] Beirdo: interesting
[09:38:38] Beirdo: well, I guess we comment out the -request lines for now until a better fix is found
[09:38:54] Beirdo: and do newaliases after, of course
[09:39:08] Beirdo: OMG, I finally got a login prompt
[09:39:19] Beirdo: been poking at this for hours.
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[09:41:18] Beirdo: OK, done that
[09:41:48] Beirdo: I'll try to do some log analysis tomorrow, see how bad it was
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[10:06:51] stuartm: the -request stuff isn't technically required since the web interface can still be used for subscription/unsubscription, the same problem also applies to -confirm but that's much harder to fix
[10:07:40] stuartm: Beirdo: I'm not sure what sort of volume we were seeing only that I finally stopped ignoring the bounce notifications on the lists I administer
[10:08:15] stuartm: when I looked at them I realised that the content was spam being sent to addresses which weren't subscribed to those lists
[10:15:06] Beirdo: yeah, better to be safe than sorry. There might be a way to keep it from happening, but the quick fix first :)
[10:21:05] stuartm: looking harder at these bounce notifications, I'm not entirely certain about the vector – it's true that the -request address can be abused since I tested that for myself but the details don't match up
[10:21:21] stuartm: let me pastebin the email
[10:23:30] stuartm: http://pastebin.com/AynMbZK2
[10:24:29] Beirdo: that one seems fine
[10:24:59] stuartm: specifically looking at the headers of the bounced email, it is coming from mythtv.org and it's going via mailman ... but there are no lines indicating origin before mythtv.org
[10:25:33] Beirdo: looks like someone tried to post to the mailing list that's not a subscriber
[10:25:44] Beirdo: and the message telling them to bugger off bounced
[10:26:45] Beirdo: but my brain is rapidly depleting, being 3:30am :)
[10:29:26] Beirdo: I think I'll go collapse in bed now. Got my ARM9 board almost working right :)
[10:29:55] stuartm: Beirdo: rejected emails have their subject line changed, this one didn't
[10:32:11] stuartm: ahh, no they don't ... that's dumb
[10:34:54] stuartm: ok, can't do much about that then – still the -request proxying is still a genuine issue, it's just joined by a few other unsolvable problems :(
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[13:58:44] danielk22: kormoc: I found the culprit. It was in new mythtv-rec2 code. The status of the 2nd+ recording[s] in a back-to-back series wasn't getting it's recstatus changed from WillRecord to Recording. Then FinishedRecording() changes all non-Recording statuses to Failed before updating oldrecorded with the final status..
[13:59:01] danielk22: kormoc: thanks for the fish :)
[15:24:58] kormoc: Wooties! Glad to have helped :)
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[23:11:18] sailerboy: Hey
[23:12:59] sailerboy: I'm trying to set up mythtv on arch with charter and a hvr 1600 using this guide https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MythTV_Walkthrough
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[23:13:44] sailerboy: I can't figure out the transmitter info
[23:14:03] gregL: you want #mythtv-users
[23:14:12] sailerboy: :(
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