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| [01:25:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | natanojl, thanks, I snagged that for loop fix and will get it committed tonight. |
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| [01:37:11] | Captain_Murdoch: | dblain, if commit 847e606 isn't the way you want to handle that, I'm happy to change the fix. |
| [01:39:10] | Captain_Murdoch: | the problem showed up on FireFox 3.5+, but not on an older version I tested. It may be why some have reported issues with screens drawing weird. I would get about 4 or 5 404 errors trying to load the setup wizard when all files did exist, it was just confusing firefox since it received a 401 and then a 404 for the same request. |
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| [02:25:14] | jpabq: | jya, did anything happen in the last 6 weeks or so, that would effect AC3 encoding in myth? When I enable timestretch now, I occasionally get spits of garbage out of the left side speaker. I have "Stereo PCM Only" turned on, since otherwise my pre-amp says Myth only sends 2 channels (when timestrech is enabled). |
| [02:25:40] | jya: | jpabq: running master I suppose? |
| [02:26:26] | jpabq: | Yes. I just upgraded tonight, to make sure it had not been fixed within the last couple of weeks. I first noticed it two weeks ago, after upgrading for the first time in over a month. |
| [02:26:45] | jya: | Stereo PCM Only only tells myth to re-encode to AC3 for multi-channel audio instead of spitting out multichannels LPCM |
| [02:27:14] | jya: | you're using hdmi I gather ? |
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| [02:27:29] | jpabq: | Right. I don't know why multichannel LPCM does not seem to work for me. Maybe EDID (or equivalent) problem? |
| [02:27:33] | jpabq: | Yes GT220 |
| [02:27:56] | jya: | jpabq: this will depends on your amp; it may not support multi-channels LPCM |
| [02:28:30] | jya: | you can usually check things by checking the eld (edid like data) in the /proc/asound folder |
| [02:28:32] | jpabq: | I think it does, since I can tell my blu-ray player to do the decoding and send out the discrete channels to the pre-amp, and that works. |
| [02:29:46] | jpabq: | Should there be a eld file? |
| [02:29:58] | jya: | if you have a recent version of alsa drivers; then yes |
| [02:30:16] | jpabq: | Ah, I see it under card0 |
| [02:30:28] | jya: | this is what your amp reports as being supported |
| [02:32:14] | jpabq: | There are four eld files. eld#1.0 seems to have the most stuff in it. |
| [02:33:21] | jya: | there will be 4 eld files, if you have 4 hdmi devices showing up |
| [02:33:27] | jya: | only the one you use is of value |
| [02:33:31] | jpabq: | http://pastebin.com/u0vqXYyW |
| [02:35:02] | jpabq: | The eld files are number 0 through 3. Do those correspond to the HDMI devides 3,7,8,9 ? |
| [02:37:34] | jya: | yes |
| [02:38:09] | jya: | 3,7,8,9 re the hardware device number: something you would use with hw1,3 for example |
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| [02:39:23] | jpabq: | I am on ALSA 23. When I tell myth to scan, it just comes up with ALSA:hdmi:CARD=NVidia as the only option. In the description it says it is capable of multichannel LPCM. So, I am not sure why my pre-amp says it is only receiving a two channels. |
| [02:39:57] | jpabq: | Do you know of any easy way to test outside of myth? |
| [02:40:10] | jya: | while 0,1,2,3 would be DEV=0, DEV=1 etc |
| [02:40:23] | jya: | you can try with speaker-test |
| [02:40:34] | jya: | but it would be identical to what the speaker test within myth would do |
| [02:41:33] | jya: | a GT220 supports full 8 channels LPCM |
| [02:41:43] | jya: | so why your amp wouldn't like it; I'm not sure |
| [02:41:53] | jya: | with speaker test you would do something like: |
| [02:42:24] | jya: | speaker-test -c 6 -Dhdmi:CARD=NVidia:DEV=0 |
| [02:42:40] | jya: | jpabq: there's no need to tell myth to scan any longer ; it does so automatically |
| [02:43:34] | jya: | the list should contain the same list as aplay -L |
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| [02:44:09] | jya: | in myth that is |
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| [02:44:23] | jya: | I will test timestretch tonight and see if I can reproduce the problem |
| [02:45:10] | jpabq: | speaker-test -c 6 -Dhdmi:CARD=NVidia:DEV=0 fails with invalid argument. But, speaker-test -c 6 -Dhdmi:CARD=NVidia works — I get discrete sound out of all the speakers, and the pre-amp says it is getting 7.1 |
| [02:45:51] | jya: | in mythfrontend |
| [02:45:58] | jya: | in Setup->Audio |
| [02:46:20] | jya: | in advanced, everything should be unckecked , but the HDR passthrough capable |
| [02:46:24] | jpabq: | Speaker test in myth does not work if I turn off "Stereo PCM only". I don't get any sound out of any speaker except the primary left and right. |
| [02:46:46] | jpabq: | I will try that |
| [02:47:29] | jya: | sorry, it's speaker-test -c 6 -Dhdmi:CARD=NVidia:DEV=0 |
| [02:47:46] | jya: | can try with -c 8 |
| [02:48:10] | jya: | with -c 6; you should only get audio of 6 speakers , not all of them |
| [02:48:24] | jya: | rhaa.. speaker-test -c 6 -Dhdmi:CARD=NVidia:DEV=0 |
| [02:48:42] | jya: | that stupid IRC client, replace the , in front of DEV=0 with a : |
| [02:48:48] | jya: | it's speaker-test -c 6 -Dhdmi:CARD=NVidia:DEV=0 |
| [02:48:54] | jya: | damnit |
| [02:49:12] | jya: | speaker-test -c 6 -Dhdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0 |
| [02:50:13] | jya: | jpabq: I would be more than surprise if speaker-test would produce a different result than what the myth speaker test would |
| [02:50:27] | jya: | provided, I shamelessly used the speaker-test code :) |
| [02:53:42] | jpabq: | Unchecking the boxes on the advanced page partially fixed that problem. Myth's speaker test now works with the other channels — however they are badly miss-labeled. |
| [02:54:13] | jya: | what do you mean by miss-labeled? |
| [02:54:20] | jpabq: | With speaker-test, I cannot put ":DEV=0" on the end or it fails. |
| [02:54:30] | jya: | right, because it's ,DEV=0 |
| [02:54:33] | jya: | not :DEV=0 |
| [02:54:49] | jpabq: | Myth says the LFE is playing, when I actually get sound out of some other speaker, etc. |
| [02:55:08] | jya: | jpabq: there are only two reasons for that problem: |
| [02:55:20] | jya: | 1- You have remapped the audio channels with a custom alsa config |
| [02:55:31] | jya: | 2- your speakers are incorrectly wired |
| [02:55:45] | jya: | actually , there would be 3: you are using a ION or 9400M audio chipset |
| [02:56:14] | jya: | but the GT2xx doesn't have that problem |
| [02:56:45] | jpabq: | Speakers are wired fine. If alsa config is wrong, I didn't do it. I do have a /etc/asound.conf, but it just does a plug to allow non-aware apps to get sound out the HDMI. I can try removing the /etc/asound.conf, though. |
| [02:57:13] | jya: | now, you would typically have a plug or mix entry if you did |
| [02:57:42] | jya: | the speaker order is what is defined as per the hdmi standard re-ordered for alsa |
| [02:58:34] | jya: | what about with speaker-test ? |
| [02:58:42] | jya: | does it match what it says ? |
| [02:58:51] | jpabq: | They are out of order with speaker-test, too. |
| [02:59:18] | jya: | yeah.. you're sure you never re-ordered the channels in some alsa config? |
| [02:59:44] | jpabq: | Not on purpose. How would I check? The /etc/asound.conf has nothing like that in it. |
| [03:00:19] | jya: | you don't have a .asoundrc ? |
| [03:00:58] | jpabq: | I got rid of the /etc/asound.conf. I am rebooting to be sure it is not in use. I will check for a .asoundrc when it comes back up, but I don't think I have one. |
| [03:03:23] | jya: | let's move this discussion in #mythtv-users |
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| [03:40:40] | elmojo: | markk: did you get a chance to look at the get_buffer issues yet? I've looked into a little bit more today |
| [04:05:21] | markk: | elmojo: no – I've not done anything more. Did you come up with anything new? |
| [04:06:25] | elmojo: | markk: not really – still just trying understand how all the buffering works with respect to the decoder and our videooutput class – confusing stuff |
| [04:07:06] | elmojo: | you mentioned in an e-mail you've simplified the videobuffers code – any reason to hold off committing it? |
| [04:09:03] | markk: | I'd like to get the buffer issue fixed first , then maybe simplify the code after 0.25. at this point I don't want to introduce more bugs – I'd like to see 0.25 as stable as possible |
| [04:09:49] | elmojo: | sounds good – do you have a very good understanding how it all works on the ffmpeg side? |
| [04:10:03] | markk: | no :) |
| [04:10:32] | elmojo: | I just got a feeling we work a bit differently than they do with their internal buffering scheme |
| [04:11:11] | elmojo: | and kinda wonder if we need to more closely emulate how they handle buffering to emulate the pic->age and pic->data fields |
| [04:12:29] | markk: | I suspect it is just the age – but if you're not familiar with ffmpeg, trying to trace it through can be a nightmare |
| [04:12:41] | elmojo: | to start we need to keep a last_pic_num in the videobuffer class to record the last pic_num we got |
| [04:13:21] | elmojo: | I checked and age is definitely used in the mpegvideo.c code which is common to h.264 and mpeg-2 decoding |
| [04:13:49] | markk: | any clues if it drives when they release a frame? |
| [04:14:16] | elmojo: | lemme check |
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| [04:33:07] | elmojo: | markk: did you ever try removing the HACK in VideoBuffers:DeLimboFrame and see if it helped or not? |
| [04:34:05] | markk: | elmojo: on the basis that I ripped all of that code out with my test patch, and didn't see a change in behaviour, I don't think it is the issue |
| [04:35:08] | elmojo: | good point – the more I look into this code the more confused I get |
| [04:59:29] | markk: | hrm – makemkv need to publish a new beta key |
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| [11:27:44] | stuartm: | markk: shame that no new processing keys have leaked since 2008 |
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| [12:48:57] | danielk22: | markk: elmojo: I think I mentioned this before but on encoding the frame usage of ffmpeg is even worse than VideoBuffers assumes a released frame continues to be used by ffmpeg after it is released (but not after ffmpeg next calls get frame.) |
| [12:50:10] | danielk22: | I didn't check if this was also the case with decoding, but I was pretty shocked to see this on encoding when working on another project. |
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| [15:20:25] | elmojo: | danielk22: the buffer management is confusing to me – we definitely don't set the pic->age properly in get_avf_buffer and it appears to cause serious issues with high numbers of ref frames |
| [15:21:04] | elmojo: | if you have a good grasp on how the buffers work maybe you could take a look at the pic->age problem |
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| [16:03:12] | danielk22: | elmojo: I never did anything with the age property. I don't know if that even existed the last time I touched that stuff :) |
| [16:04:46] | danielk22: | (In mythtv) |
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| [16:44:51] | ** Captain_Murdoch thinks that a 'status' widget would satisfy Devin's desire on the -users mailing list. seems like a nice idea. users who don't like the 'wasted' space (their words, I use fanart) in Arclight could put the status widget up in that corner. ** | |
| [16:46:22] | Captain_Murdoch: | being able to see # of recordings, conflict status, # of recordings in progress, # of recent failed recordings, etc. might be nice if it wasn't too intrusive. |
| [16:47:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | s/to see/to easily see/ |
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| [16:50:59] | wagnerrp: | IMHO, something like that would best be implemented in the logger |
| [16:51:20] | wagnerrp: | aside from VB_EXTRA, weve never really had anything indicating the importance of a log |
| [16:51:44] | wagnerrp: | i know sphery and beirdo are interested in a rewrite of the logging interface |
| [16:52:51] | wagnerrp: | perhaps logs could have a severity give, logs above a certain level would be pushed to the database, and logs above a higher level are critical and the user must be informed |
| [16:53:15] | wagnerrp: | have the housekeeper send out a batch email once a day of errors |
| [16:54:11] | wagnerrp: | or as devin suggested, some sort of activity meter, where if the machine is idle or offline for some number of hours, it will trigger a status window when someone starts using it |
| [16:55:23] | stuartm_: | wagnerrp: db logging already has a severity attribute |
| [16:55:39] | wagnerrp: | right, but the DB logging is hardly used |
| [16:55:57] | wagnerrp: | primarily because its a secondary interface, independent of the standard VERBOSE |
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| [16:56:26] | stuartm_: | well it's used for all the wrong stuff, i.e. reschedule notices and other such useless trivia |
| [16:56:42] | stuartm_: | wagnerrp: yeah, I see what you're getting at |
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| [16:57:12] | wagnerrp: | thats what sphery/beirdo want to correct with a rewrite |
| [16:57:26] | stuartm: | k |
| [16:57:35] | wagnerrp: | make it all one big logging interface, that automatically sends stuff where it should go |
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| [17:13:13] | Captain_Murdoch: | that still requires a user to go somewhere and do something. even a little red 'recording' status light that could be anywhere like the clock would be nice. another color for an alert status to direct the user to the logs, etc.. |
| [17:14:01] | Captain_Murdoch: | ie, make going to look at the logs 'event driven', not standard procedure. :) |
| [17:15:01] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: im saying logs above a certain threshold would send out an email to a pre-defined address, or trigger a popup if the user returned after a specified amount of idle time |
| [17:15:38] | wagnerrp: | something that would notify them directly of such problems |
| [17:16:05] | Captain_Murdoch: | popups can be ignored or closed by the kid(s). emails are another place to go, then go back to mythfrontend to check the logs (or the new web interface since I think it woudl be nice to have a 'maintenance' area for things like the jobqueue ordering, log viewing/clearing, etc.) |
| [17:16:32] | Captain_Murdoch: | VCRs, DVRs, etc. have a little recording light, what's wrong with that? |
| [17:16:49] | Captain_Murdoch: | VCRs flash the clock to tell you to set it. :) |
| [17:17:08] | wagnerrp: | VFD modules for all! |
| [17:17:41] | Captain_Murdoch: | icons in the panel or toolbar alert you to status to go check the event or error logs. that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. |
| [17:17:54] | wagnerrp: | yeah, just a little thing in the corner to indicate a problem could work |
| [17:18:01] | Captain_Murdoch: | like the clock. :) |
| [17:18:22] | Captain_Murdoch: | and I'm talking something themeable, so it would be up to the themer to implement or not implement. |
| [17:18:58] | Captain_Murdoch: | would be a red light or a 'X recordings are currently in progres" text area. |
| [17:19:02] | Captain_Murdoch: | s/would/could/ |
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| [17:22:29] | stuartm: | Captain_Murdoch: I've long talked about such an indicator for the UI, probably for the last 3+ years but so far I've not got around to writing it |
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| [17:23:47] | Captain_Murdoch: | stuartm, yeah, I'm just here to offer ideas. :) too many other things on my plate. I rarely have failed recordings so it doesn't bother me much. I'm also usually recording when I'm watching, so my red light would stay on constantly. :) |
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| [17:43:15] | skd5aner: | I remember a while ago someone made this with dual color LEDs to display tuner status – thought it was pretty cool at the time http://www.thearmstrongs.org/images/mythled.jpg |
| [17:43:24] | skd5aner: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . atus;#106861 |
| [17:43:53] | Beirdo: | heh. My HDPVR has a builtin blue ring for that :) |
| [17:44:26] | skd5aner: | yup – I actually enjoy seeing that turn on now, it's the only tuner that's even near my TV anyway |
| [17:46:23] | skd5aner: | I think I had my old xbox frontend turn the ring red when something was recording too if I remember correctly – ah, memories :) |
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| [22:36:16] | dblain: | did anyone ever create a ticket for the autodiscovery g_pConfig seg fault? I didn't see one in trac, but I may over overlooked it. |
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| [23:06:30] | wagnerrp: | not that i know of, but ive been getting segfaults trying to access the wsdl folders |
| [23:07:01] | wagnerrp: | the Myth one works, the rest fail |
| [23:07:10] | wagnerrp: | traceback on #9646 |
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| [23:17:07] | dblain: | wagnerrp: yes, I had stated in a prior commit that I broke wsdl support and I'd be working on it after fixing the p_gConfig seg fault. |
| [23:17:17] | dblain: | Thanks for the info though. |
| [23:19:34] | wagnerrp: | ok, must have missed that one |
| [23:20:05] | dblain: | np. |
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| [23:47:59] | Captain_Murdoch: | dblain, was my fix for the authentication issue OK? we were calling sendResponse twice in that case with a parserequest in the middle causing 2 responses to be sent in reply to one request. first response was the 401. 2nd was sometimes a 404 if it was supposed to be handled by HttpConfig and instead was treated as a file which didn't exist. |
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