| Thursday, March 31st, 2011, 00:00 UTC | ||
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| [00:01:09] | stuartm: | heh, just approved a channel icon with 1331 submissions ... guess I need to write in some automated approval rules |
| [00:02:21] | wagnerrp: | jrgill: i think you need to see the topic |
| [00:02:40] | jrgill: | oops |
| [00:02:57] | jrgill: | what's a monitor commit? |
| [00:03:34] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
| [00:03:40] | stuartm: | jrgill: use #mythtv-users |
| [00:03:56] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: he's reading a truncated topic line |
| [00:03:56] | jrgill: | oh, commit as in contributing to support for monitors? |
| [00:04:03] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [00:04:15] | wagnerrp: | if you want to monitor commits on github, use #mythtv-commits |
| [00:04:27] | jrgill: | ok |
| [00:04:37] | wagnerrp: | specifically, what i wanted you to read from the topic is 'this is the development channe. for user support, please /join #mythtv-users' |
| [00:04:41] | stuartm: | monitor = follow/watch |
| [00:04:57] | stuartm: | monitor != crt/tv/lcd in this context |
| [00:05:39] | jrgill: | oh, that makes sense. :P |
| [00:19:03] | xris: | Chutt: yeah, broke down and got the wifi xoom the other day. |
| [00:19:54] | xris: | I like it other than the weight (though it's no heavier than a 3g ipad). though there aren't a lot of apps for it yet, and there's not a lot for me to do with it at home other than angry birds. |
| [00:20:10] | xris: | (on "vacation" this week before I change jobs) |
| [00:23:15] | Chutt: | heh, cool |
| [00:23:33] | Chutt: | i have almost final hardware, but never played with a retail one |
| [00:27:04] | xris: | too bad ipad2 kills it in 3d performance |
| [00:27:10] | xris: | but I don't plan to play games on it |
| [00:27:18] | Chutt: | newer gpu and 1/3 fewer pixels |
| [00:27:25] | xris: | heh |
| [00:27:54] | xris: | should work for my purposes, though. unless the 10.1 samsung coming out in june is significantly better. bought it at costco for the return period |
| [00:28:12] | xris: | no real interest in the apple stuff |
| [00:32:55] | Chutt: | have you tried flash on it? |
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| [00:33:49] | xris: | yeah, same as other android, but faster |
| [00:34:17] | Chutt: | well, other than the atrix |
| [00:34:38] | Chutt: | but that'll improve when it's not a beta and they enable the rest of the hw accel |
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| [00:49:43] | xris: | yeah. not that I use much that has flash, but it's nice to have it on the device |
| [00:50:07] | xris: | need to get features into the frontend to match foobum's necessary extensions for mythdroid. |
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| [01:56:16] | elmojo: | from the ffmpeg-dev ML -> "Wasn't the merge reverted ? no, we just removed some messy history that most people disliked, ffmpeg-mt is still fully integrated into main ffmpeg" |
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| [02:00:36] | Teligard: | 2, hopefully minor, questions: |
| [02:00:53] | Teligard: | 1. What key do I press to stop a recording? |
| [02:01:44] | Teligard: | 2. Are there *shortcut keys* that can take you directly to Watch TV, Videos, etc? |
| [02:01:54] | wagnerrp: | `likely something you want to ask in the user support channel |
| [02:02:11] | Teligard: | oops, sorry (though I was....) |
| [02:02:14] | Teligard: | I'm sorry |
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| [02:10:24] | elmojo: | Beirdo, jya, wagnerrp: the ffmpeg-mt code is merged and was never reverted |
| [02:10:47] | elmojo: | and yes, I agree, that the discussion on the ML seemed like it was reverted |
| [02:13:27] | Beirdo: | elmojo: any idea when? |
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| [02:37:20] | jya: | elmojo: really? They even had a vote if it was going to be reverted; with everyone saying yes etc... |
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| [03:00:21] | danielk22: | Did anyone who has one of those Logitech GoogleTV thingies try to get the UPnP parts working with MythTV? Did it look like a lot of coding was needed to get it working? |
| [03:17:17] | Captain_Murdoch: | danielk22, I think kormoc_afk tried with his. |
| [03:25:17] | iamlindoro: | TTBOMK Google TV has nearly no codec support, so much of the uPnP compatibility with Myth is basically moot |
| [03:25:42] | elmojo: | Beirdo: http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2011-March/110174.html |
| [03:27:33] | elmojo: | and was merged in March 21st -> http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2011-March/109620.html |
| [03:27:55] | iamlindoro: | which is post split |
| [03:28:14] | elmojo: | iamlindoro: did they merge it on the libav fork? |
| [03:28:17] | iamlindoro: | If we want to forgo making a call on th fork, we need to forgo -mt for now |
| [03:28:38] | iamlindoro: | elmojo, I'm on their list but don't know because I'm not following their commits |
| [03:29:20] | elmojo: | probabaly best to just follow Mark's recommendation and use the last commit pre-fork |
| [03:29:31] | iamlindoro: | I tend to agree |
| [03:29:39] | iamlindoro: | the decision will be easier in 3–4 months |
| [03:29:40] | elmojo: | I can't imagine that the ffmpeg-mt will be without issues |
| [03:29:43] | iamlindoro: | (hopefully) |
| [03:31:29] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: which honestly doesnt make sense, isnt the googletv basically the same hardware as the boxee box? |
| [03:31:37] | iamlindoro: | yup |
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| [03:54:27] | superm1: | kormoc_afk, looking at a ps3's UPNP implementation it almost gives the impression that UPNP video can potentially do chapters. do you know if that's actually the case? |
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| [12:30:40] | dblain: | I have a fix for the g_pConfig mythbackend segfault issue, however it's faily invasive and I need to rebuild my machine today. So unless compelled to otherwise, I'm going to wait to commit it until my machine is back in a position to support any potential bugs it may introduce. |
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| [15:08:16] | stuartm: | ooh nasty, half my frontend settings have been reset to defaults ... wtf happened there |
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| [17:09:49] | MythBuild: | build #862 of master-linux-64bit is complete: Failure [failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/862 blamelist: Robert McNamara <rmcnamara@mythtv.org > |
| [17:14:09] | MythBuild: | build #809 of master-linux-32bit is complete: Failure [failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/809 blamelist: Robert McNamara <rmcnamara@mythtv.org > |
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| [17:58:10] | ** stuartm prods iamlindoro ** | |
| [17:58:21] | iamlindoro: | Well that's good |
| [17:58:54] | iamlindoro: | hmm... link error-- I don't get it |
| [17:59:07] | iamlindoro: | ok, give me a couple |
| [18:00:47] | iamlindoro: | One of these changes must have missed in the apply |
| [18:00:50] | iamlindoro: | compiled okay, so that's odd |
| [18:01:14] | iamlindoro: | ah, I see |
| [18:01:18] | iamlindoro: | (I think) |
| [18:03:15] | iamlindoro: | pushing this change, it's correct even if it's not all of the fix, testing compile now |
| [18:03:40] | iamlindoro: | I seem, to have gotten caught by my build env being too permissive on me a number of times lately, sorry |
| [18:07:42] | wagnerrp: | well thats exactly what the build bot is for |
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| [18:09:30] | iamlindoro: | OK, compiling properly here even post-distclean, so fingers crossed |
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| [18:10:23] | MythBuild: | build #863 of master-linux-64bit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/863 |
| [18:12:58] | iamlindoro: | whew |
| [18:13:14] | iamlindoro: | stuartm: Thanks for poking me, I thought I had an alert on my name but guess not |
| [18:13:51] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: yeah, but still no fun to break compile one way or another :) |
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| [18:16:50] | MythBuild: | build #810 of master-linux-32bit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . t/builds/810 |
| [18:17:11] | Beirdo: | just thought I'd bring it up... |
| [18:17:22] | Beirdo: | any interest in GSoC this year? |
| [18:17:43] | Beirdo: | as we are at about the time to sign up if we are, I think |
| [18:18:32] | Beirdo: | actually, might be a touch late. Never mind :) |
| [18:19:00] | iamlindoro: | yeah, think Google has already churned through everything this year |
| [18:19:08] | iamlindoro: | too bad, too, as setup services would have been perfect |
| [18:19:17] | iamlindoro: | many of them are manageable tasks for a new Myth person |
| [18:19:25] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [18:19:35] | iamlindoro: | That is to say, adding methods to the config service to enumerate cards, provide a list of channels, etc. |
| [18:19:44] | Beirdo: | we are in student applications time. |
| [18:19:50] | Beirdo: | a bit late for us. crud |
| [18:20:25] | Beirdo: | something to keep in mind for next year, perhaps |
| [18:22:52] | Beirdo: | kinda makes me wish I were a student again (at times) |
| [18:24:41] | Beirdo: | I think GSoC can potentially be a good way to find some new blood too. Some are bound to stick, one would think. |
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| [18:28:13] | ** wagnerrp votes for user separation as a GSoC project ** | |
| [18:28:33] | iamlindoro: | that was on the last MythTV GSoC |
| [18:28:41] | wagnerrp: | i know |
| [18:28:42] | iamlindoro: | Which tells you something about how well that went |
| [18:28:48] | wagnerrp: | what was that... 2006? |
| [18:28:54] | danielk22: | Beirdo: I doubt it. Our experiences last time were not good. I think we could do a better job picking candidates, but the candidate pool seemed to be very poor last time. |
| [18:30:09] | Beirdo: | yeah, there is always that too. |
| [18:30:49] | Beirdo: | well, something to keep in mind at some level or other, but yeah, if it ends up not working well for us, I can see why we ignore it :) |
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| [18:35:10] | wagnerrp: | well we only tried it the once |
| [18:35:44] | Beirdo: | it would require a significant amount of planning around the beginning of the year to come up with suitable projects, I would imagine |
| [18:36:34] | Beirdo: | The better the projects seem to be, the better the crop of candidates would be my expectation |
| [18:36:35] | wagnerrp: | well thats one of the issues |
| [18:36:55] | wagnerrp: | with the time spent planning the project, and mentoring the students, giving advice and such |
| [18:37:09] | danielk22: | about 10x doing it yourself :) |
| [18:37:12] | wagnerrp: | would it be less time on the mentor's part than just coding it up themselves |
| [18:37:20] | danielk22: | and you get nothing out of it at the end :P |
| [18:37:21] | Beirdo: | yeah, granted |
| [18:37:35] | Beirdo: | well, depending, we could end up with another dev. |
| [18:37:45] | Beirdo: | IF the student doesn't suck, etc |
| [18:37:50] | Beirdo: | big if :) |
| [18:37:52] | wagnerrp: | the worth for us would be yes, getting another dev who knows their way around the project |
| [18:38:14] | Beirdo: | it's more a recruitment thing than a "get this work done" thing for us, I think |
| [18:39:43] | danielk22: | right, then it would be worth it of course.. but I don't think the program attracts those people.. so the worry is you gotta try to shift through 200–300 candidates to find the one that is worthwhile. time that might be better spent trying to recruit those ppl already submitting patches. |
| [18:40:01] | Beirdo: | good point |
| [18:40:51] | wagnerrp: | are there actually that many candidates? |
| [18:41:08] | danielk22: | wagnerrp: there weren't last time, but there was quite a number. |
| [18:41:17] | Beirdo: | depends on how many apply, which depends on what projects you present |
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| [18:42:17] | Beirdo: | I think it would be a blast to see the beagleboard/pandaboard running a frontend... |
| [18:42:24] | Beirdo: | but that will likely require DSP code |
| [18:42:39] | Beirdo: | unless someone else wrote it already... VDPAU-like code |
| [18:42:54] | wagnerrp: | someone else wrote it already |
| [18:43:03] | Beirdo: | not too surprising |
| [18:43:05] | wagnerrp: | see a partially functional XBMC from last year's GSOC |
| [18:43:54] | Beirdo: | ah, right |
| [18:44:51] | wagnerrp: | a lot of the work was just tuning the opengl code to run acceptably under ES on such a low power system |
| [18:45:11] | Beirdo: | yeah, I think markk already started with that on our end |
| [18:45:49] | Beirdo: | could be wrong there, though |
| [18:46:10] | justinh: | I think they managed to do redraw clipping to make the improvements – i.e. only redraw dirty areas |
| [18:47:14] | wagnerrp: | perhaps it wasnt video decoding, only rendering |
| [18:47:24] | Beirdo: | coulda been |
| [18:47:47] | wagnerrp: | their video was only of 480p mpeg4 playback |
| [18:48:34] | Beirdo: | I'm searching for the project on google's site |
| [18:49:16] | Beirdo: | ahhh. sponsored by beagleboard.org |
| [18:49:18] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:49:19] | wagnerrp: | http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2010_Projects/XBMC |
| [18:54:05] | Beirdo: | sounds like the old beagleboard ain't a good match. the beagleboard xM likely better (better GPU, more RAM it seems) |
| [18:58:34] | Beirdo: | oh, and I (finally) got the G4 PowerBook back... more underpowered toys |
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| [19:50:07] | Scopeuk: | hi all, can anyone point me in the right direction for narrowing down a problem with potentially too much signal (partially removing the aerial cable from the tuner connection improves the snr dramatically. |
| [19:50:20] | iamlindoro: | wrong channel, see topic |
| [19:50:26] | Scopeuk: | sorry |
| [19:50:31] | Scopeuk: | been too long |
| [19:50:42] | Scopeuk: | apologies all around |
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| [20:09:30] | ptriller: | Hi, where to report a bug with the gentoo ebuilds ? |
| [20:10:59] | wagnerrp: | here or trac is fine |
| [20:11:36] | ptriller: | Gentoo moved sys-apps/eject to "virtual/eject" and now the dependency does not work anymore for mythvideo |
| [20:12:23] | wagnerrp: | was this something in the last week or so? |
| [20:12:32] | ptriller: | something in the last 2 days or so |
| [20:12:54] | ptriller: | everything updated and isntalled fine a week ago |
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| [20:18:13] | wagnerrp: | seems it got moved to sys-block/eject a mere 5 hours ago |
| [20:18:32] | ptriller: | yea, the dependency shoud be virtual/eject now I guess |
| [20:19:10] | wagnerrp: | well the only reason for the virtual is to allow gentoo/bsd to build |
| [20:19:42] | ptriller: | Well, yit your eboud, you do wat you want, I personally would use the virtual |
| [20:19:43] | wagnerrp: | sys-block/eject is for gentoo/linux |
| [20:19:45] | ptriller: | *your |
| [20:20:00] | wagnerrp: | right... no reason not to use the virtual if its there |
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| [21:10:29] | ptriller: | how stable is the 25 bracnch of mythtv, I just use the 24 build right now |
| [21:23:00] | danielk22: | ptriller: trunk is a bit unstable at the moment. |
| [21:27:09] | Beirdo: | we keep swinging axes at it |
| [21:30:46] | ptriller: | sounds like fun |
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| [21:59:24] | natanojl: | The HTTP setup looks nice! Though I got at a crash mythbackend by navigating to Setup|Advance Setup|General|Shutdown/Wakeup. This patch seems to fix it: http://pastebin.com/PyAnNgF5 |
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| [22:32:29] | iamlindoro: | Guess we now know that Paul Gardiner and David Knight are thieves |
| [22:32:36] | ** iamlindoro adds them to his mental list of people not to help ** | |
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| [22:50:27] | GreyFoxx: | How so ? |
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| [22:56:11] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, Because they were discussing how to record digitally channels which can not legally be recorded digitally, then came back to the list with |
| [22:56:21] | iamlindoro: | "I wasn't aware that was possible. How do you set them up?" |
| [22:56:26] | iamlindoro: | "Ah, I remember. Say no more." |
| [22:56:33] | iamlindoro: | "This issue was down to a third party program and was resolved with assistance off-list." |
| [22:56:40] | Beirdo: | hint hint, nudge nudge... |
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| [23:08:40] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh ok |
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| [23:30:17] | danielk22: | davide_: gigem: I'm having a problem in the mythtv-rec branch where "The Colbert Report" gets recorded at both 11:31pm and 2:04am. This show directly follows "The Daily Show" which I also record. |
| [23:30:39] | danielk22: | In the mythtv-rec2 branch back-to-back recordings on the same channel are handled specially (there is no gap between recordings, just like LiveTV). |
| [23:31:27] | danielk22: | I'm guessing there is something I'm doing which is making the first instance of the show not count for duplicate detection, but it is there in the DB recorded table, any ideas? |
| [23:33:11] | danielk22: | I should note there is an EP programid and it does match. |
| [23:33:32] | wagnerrp: | might want to ask kormoc as well, hes tinkered around in the scheduler in the past few months |
| [23:33:43] | danielk22: | kormoc: ^^^ ? |
| [23:39:09] | danielk22: | http://pastebin.com/gN96xENa |
| [23:41:48] | kormoc: | danielk22, recstatus of -9 claims the recording failed |
| [23:41:57] | kormoc: | (for the 23:31 one) |
| [23:43:47] | danielk22: | kormoc: any idea where that is set? my guess is recordinginfo.cpp.. |
| [23:44:43] | kormoc: | one minute |
| [23:46:39] | danielk22: | RecordingInfo::AddHistory()..looks likely.. |
| [23:47:37] | kormoc: | libs/libmythtv/tv_rec.cpp:745 libs/libmythtv/tv_rec.cpp:878 libs/libmythtv/tv_rec.cpp:1464 libs/libmythtv/tv_rec.cpp:3905 |
| [23:48:01] | kormoc: | danielk22, what's the capture device? If it's a hdpvr I'd wager on the last one personally |
| [23:48:14] | danielk22: | yah, hdpvr |
| [23:48:34] | kormoc: | I've had the signal monitor do some weird stuff, the last one is the signal monitor test |
| [23:48:56] | kormoc: | but you should see it in your logs if that was the case |
| [23:49:17] | kormoc: | rsFailed is the key to look for I'm fairly sure |
| [23:49:56] | danielk22: | I don't think it's the signal monitor, that wouldn't run in a second back to back recording.. |
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