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[00:18:23] | Beirdo: | well, if people would actually report deadlocks, perhaps they could get fixed :) So far, AFAIK, every one I've heard about has gotten attention. |
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[00:19:42] | Beirdo: | now that my kegerator has beer... I may even have more time for mythtv coding again as the distractions are decreased a bit |
[00:20:17] | elmojo: | [27326] |
[00:20:17] | MythLogBot: | SVN 27326: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/ee9af286 |
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[00:26:29] | jpabq: | Beirdo, unfortunately, my attempts to trap the deadlock have failed. Running mythbackend in gdb just caused gdb to deadlock. My guess is that the problem is in the auto expire code, since I have been very low on disk space for a few weeks now. |
[00:26:59] | Beirdo: | Ahh |
[00:27:37] | Beirdo: | Yeah, heisenbugs are a pain. I can take a look over that code again tonight if you want. It's often something obvious at 10th look through :) |
[00:28:15] | Beirdo: | so it seems to be autoexpire or perhaps signal monitor? |
[00:28:24] | jpabq: | danielk22 thinks it is a thread being deleted before it is finished. I have not looked at the code, though. |
[00:28:56] | jpabq: | Yes, but before I could go a few days without seeing the problem, so there is no guarantee that I just have not been lucky the last few days. |
[00:29:12] | Beirdo: | it likely is, as there are a few cases where the threads aren't quitting correctly (any more due to me screwing them... or due to former poor design, dunno?) |
[00:29:38] | Beirdo: | so the thread should have quit and been deleted, but never quit, and gets summarily shot in the head |
[00:29:40] | danielk22: | jpabq: AFAIK the autoexpire code has been fixed in trunk... |
[00:30:05] | Beirdo: | I think it was mostly the former... me screwing it slightly :) |
[00:30:14] | Beirdo: | but yeah, I think that one got fixed |
[00:30:28] | jpabq: | I have this vague memory, that the last time I filled up my data disk (a year ago?) that I had an occasional problem with then too... |
[00:30:56] | Beirdo: | it's a code path that we don't test all that often. Who knows what dust bunnies are floating around in there |
[00:30:57] | jpabq: | danielk22, I have had the deadlock once since upgrading to 454f85387c51cd71bd24f350083a1f90ad515be0 which I believe is after the "fix" I think you are talking about. |
[00:31:41] | danielk22: | Beirdo: the QThread destructor does not wait for threads to exit... a good safety check is to just add a wait(); in all the dtor's then you get deadlocks instead of an undebuggable stackless segfault in case of trouble... |
[00:31:44] | Beirdo: | now (for the kegerator) I await my circuit boards so I can geek it out. |
[00:32:03] | Beirdo: | danielk22: aye. I though we had them (nearly?) everywhere |
[00:32:19] | jpabq: | I am running master as of "Thu Mar 24 23:49:35 2011 +0100" if that is easier to digest than 454f85387c51cd71bd24f350083a1f90ad515be0 |
[00:32:40] | Beirdo: | a good thing to audit for |
[00:33:01] | Beirdo: | meanwhile, I guess I should get home, have a beer and start auditing code :) |
[00:33:08] | danielk22: | Nope, not in most of the new pthread->QThread ported threads classes. I mean in the QThread inherited class dtor.. since any other waits rely on the other code all being good. |
[00:33:11] | Beirdo: | the more eyes we get on them, the better |
[00:33:29] | Beirdo: | Ooooh. |
[00:33:36] | Beirdo: | like a self.wait() |
[00:33:50] | Beirdo: | where self isn't technically necessary |
[00:33:51] | jpabq: | I can go back to using unpatched master, but it is a little painful to have the backend lock up when I am not around to fix it ;-) |
[00:33:59] | Beirdo: | yeah, I hear ya |
[00:34:26] | Beirdo: | I have mine acting odd at times too (like that no-mysql.txt crashing nonsense lately) |
[00:34:36] | Beirdo: | the joys of using master in production :) |
[00:34:42] | Beirdo: | we be guinea pigs |
[00:35:02] | danielk22: | jpabq: Beirdo: What I'm suggesting wouldn't stop a lock up, just make it possible to get a good backtrace.. |
[00:35:13] | jpabq: | Yeah! I am not complaining — it is my own decision. |
[00:35:15] | Beirdo: | yeah |
[00:35:51] | Beirdo: | danielk, so you suggest a dtor with wait() in it in each of those inherited classes then? |
[00:36:02] | jpabq: | Beirdo, if you come up with a patch to do what danielk22 is suggesting, I would be happy to run in it gdb again, to get it fixed. |
[00:36:05] | Beirdo: | worth a try :) |
[00:36:42] | Beirdo: | one way or the other, need to get it fully stable |
[00:37:11] | Beirdo: | if you guys notice other oddities, feel free to let me know. It really needs to be rock solid :) |
[00:38:18] | Beirdo: | my next toy: http://www.andahammer.com/mini35-sdk/ :) |
[00:38:45] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'm off to catch a bus home |
[00:38:50] | Beirdo: | be back in a bit |
[00:47:01] | iamlindoro: | Fun with html setup menus: http://www.fecitfacta.com/accordion.ogg |
[00:47:14] | iamlindoro: | I like it better, anyway, than the left menu constantly changing |
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[00:57:00] | iamlindoro: | someone's gotta save us from having a geocities-style setup |
[00:57:42] | iamlindoro: | I sure hope we can put some animated GIFs of flashing lights up next to the important menus |
[00:57:52] | iamlindoro: | and a yellow road work sign until we're done |
[00:58:02] | iamlindoro: | and some animated flames next to hot news |
[00:58:26] | markk: | text only for me, please |
[00:58:32] | iamlindoro: | Whilst the scroller in the status bar informs them of critical changes |
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[00:58:46] | iamlindoro: | and liberal use of <flash>flashing text</flash> |
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[01:08:53] | jya: | Anyone would have a file with a 44.1kHz AC3 track by any chance? |
[01:13:52] | jya: | Found those: http://www.kellyindustries.com/sounds.html#burnittoacdr |
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[01:19:54] | jya: | hum... not usable as it's a plain wav... |
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[01:48:55] | Beirdo: | OK, updating and compiling current master. Then thread bug-hunting |
[01:58:12] | Anssi: | jya: you can open it (-i) with ffmpeg spdif demuxer (-f spdif) and then copy (-acodec copy) to e.g. raw ac3 file (-f ac3) |
[01:58:39] | jya: | Anssi: yeah, but then I won't be able to play it with mythtv. |
[01:58:58] | jya: | I need it in a container that tells that it's ac3 |
[01:59:26] | Anssi: | jya: so replace -f ac3 with -f matroska or something? :) |
[01:59:52] | jya: | Anssi: it's muxed spdif you think? |
[02:00:10] | Anssi: | jya: ac3-in-wav = ac3-in-iec61937-in-wav |
[02:00:49] | Anssi: | (i.e. yes) |
[02:01:48] | jya: | now I need a more recentt version of ffmpeg then |
[02:02:00] | jya: | then one that ships with 10.04 doesn't have the spdif muxer |
[02:02:52] | ** Beirdo mumbles something about mythffmpeg ** | |
[02:03:03] | jya: | Beirdo: good point :) |
[02:03:34] | Beirdo: | now that it's built, it SHOULD support it if mythtv will ;) |
[02:03:55] | jya: | if it's with the backports I put there, then yes.. it will have it |
[02:04:12] | Beirdo: | it should be |
[02:04:39] | Beirdo: | uses the mythlibav* libs, so should do it |
[02:05:13] | jya: | hum... mythffmpeg -f spdif -i 4_currents441kHz.ac3 -acodec copy -f matroska ac344kHz.mkv -> unknown input format spdif |
[02:05:47] | Beirdo: | the format list might help :) |
[02:06:19] | Beirdo: | jpabq: when it deadlocks, do you get the "Warning: stopping auto expire thread can take several seconds" in the logs? |
[02:06:30] | Anssi: | the spdif demuxer was added in November |
[02:06:56] | jya: | Anssi: I backported the spdif muxer/demuxer to our copy... |
[02:07:13] | jya: | though didn't touch the ffmpeg exe; maybe that was needed |
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[02:07:52] | Beirdo: | if you registered it as a format, it should be there |
[02:08:12] | jya: | Beirdo: I only added the code in libavformat |
[02:08:45] | jpabq: | Beirdo, perhaps, but if so, it was not the last message. The last message is an auto expire message, not not that one. |
[02:08:55] | ** jya looking for Anssi message on ffmpeg devel lit on how to reset the git following ffmpeg-mt screwy merge ** | |
[02:09:12] | Beirdo: | E spdif IEC 61937 (used on S/PDIF – IEC958) |
[02:09:18] | Beirdo: | in mine... |
[02:09:19] | jpabq: | Beirdo, unfortunately, I did not keep the log. |
[02:09:23] | Beirdo: | you got encoder, not decoder |
[02:09:33] | Beirdo: | jpabq: OK. |
[02:09:46] | Beirdo: | If you get one again, I'd love to see it |
[02:09:58] | Beirdo: | just looking at how it might have gotten wedged |
[02:10:19] | Beirdo: | jya: that was mythffmpeg -formats, BTW |
[02:10:47] | jya: | it's there: E spdif IEC 61937 (used on S/PDIF – IEC958) |
[02:10:56] | Beirdo: | yes |
[02:10:59] | Beirdo: | encoder only |
[02:11:00] | jya: | ah.. of course |
[02:11:04] | jya: | I only put the encoder |
[02:11:06] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[02:11:24] | jya: | didn't need the decoder |
[02:11:28] | jya: | back then |
[02:11:49] | Beirdo: | heh. Well, if you try the ffmpeg-sync branch, it should have both, AFAIK |
[02:12:11] | jya: | I'm just compiling ffmpeg from their git repo |
[02:12:22] | Beirdo: | DE spdif IEC 61937 (used on S/PDIF – IEC958) |
[02:12:30] | Beirdo: | yup, we have both in that sync |
[02:12:44] | jpabq: | Beirdo, none of the logs I have going back a couple of weeks have that message in them. I am not sure which logs are relevant to the deadlock(s) though. |
[02:13:10] | Beirdo: | K. |
[02:13:31] | Beirdo: | that's in the destructor for AutoExpire |
[02:14:00] | Beirdo: | which should be the only thing that would be blowing away the thread that I've seen so far |
[02:14:08] | Beirdo: | Oh |
[02:14:19] | Beirdo: | it only prints that IF the thread is still running. |
[02:17:07] | Beirdo: | hmm, not sure that AutoExpire::Sleep() does what the brief says it does |
[02:18:18] | Beirdo: | if the thread is told to stop, it would stop immediately, or the next time it hits top of loop |
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[02:19:07] | Beirdo: | and... which sleep() is that using? |
[02:19:17] | jya: | Anssi: that worked ! |
[02:19:18] | jya: | thanks |
[02:19:20] | Beirdo: | if it's the QThread::sleep(), it returns null. |
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[02:19:23] | Anssi: | jya: :) |
[02:19:42] | Beirdo: | err, returns nothing (void) |
[02:20:59] | Beirdo: | well, I guess that would be "within 5s" |
[02:28:38] | Beirdo: | I'm thinking that something like a semaphore with a timed lock would be a better way to sleep on the AutoExpire thread |
[02:31:05] | Beirdo: | I dunno. |
[02:34:21] | dblain: | Beirdo: I haven't looked at the code, but reading your last couple of comments made me thing of QTimer? |
[02:35:00] | Beirdo: | it's using a flag that we check while sleeping... using the unistd.h sleep |
[02:36:44] | dblain: | The upnp stack also has a TaskQueue which will be available to all once I make my ssdp changes. |
[02:36:53] | Beirdo: | cool |
[02:36:54] | Beirdo: | :) |
[02:37:18] | dblain: | Not sure any of this would help the problem at hand. |
[02:37:37] | ** dblain goes back to lurking from a dark corner ** | |
[02:37:51] | Beirdo: | Yeah, I thought we'd fixed the issue, but it seems it still has occurred since. |
[02:39:00] | dblain: | I still have it happening also. But only when linux is master and windows is slave. I flip it around to debug, and the problem doesn't happen. (most likely since the windows master doesn't have any recordings) |
[02:40:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm. Well, if you get the threads deadlocking, and can capture the logs and maybe a full backtrace (if possible) of the backend while it's wedged... it can certainly help figure out how it's happening |
[02:40:33] | jya: | Beirdo: Anssi gave me a great idea on how to use ffmpeg and mythtranscode in fifomode |
[02:40:51] | jya: | what type of video format is it ? |
[02:40:54] | dblain: | I'll see what I can do... right now I'm in the middle of the upnp config issue. so... |
[02:41:02] | jya: | out of the vidout pipe ? |
[02:41:17] | Beirdo: | dblain: k. |
[02:41:33] | Beirdo: | jya: it's YUV12 raw frames, IIRC |
[02:41:42] | Beirdo: | at full resolution |
[02:42:02] | jya: | that's in FIFO mode? |
[02:42:11] | Beirdo: | yes |
[02:42:24] | Beirdo: | the pipes are only used in fifo mode IIRC |
[02:42:39] | jya: | that's yuv4mpegpipe in ffmpeg-format-land ? |
[02:43:16] | Beirdo: | I think so. I'd have to look at the nuvexport code where we use it |
[02:44:40] | Beirdo: | ummm. -f rawvideo |
[02:45:27] | Beirdo: | that doesn't sound quite right |
[02:45:56] | Beirdo: | yeah. -f rawvideo -pix_fmt yuv420p |
[02:46:17] | jya: | ok.. i try again then |
[02:46:33] | Beirdo: | with -s 1920x1080 -r 29.97 (for 1080i) |
[02:47:04] | Beirdo: | we output it to yuv4mpegpipe to pipe to yuvdenoise if you turn on noise reduction |
[02:48:14] | Beirdo: | otherwise, we just pump it right in as raw frames |
[02:48:51] | Beirdo: | (that's in nuvexport/export/ffmpeg.pm should you want to look it over) |
[02:50:33] | jya: | is the resolution detected, or it's always 1920x1080? |
[02:52:58] | Beirdo: | it's detected |
[02:53:01] | Beirdo: | using mplayer |
[02:53:16] | Beirdo: | in the perl bindings |
[02:55:38] | jya: | it only output nuv file that nuvexport? |
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[03:29:37] | iamlindoro: | dblain, DVR.getrecorded seems to return starting from oldest no matter whether you specify descending or ascending |
[03:30:14] | iamlindoro: | dblain, Also wondering if there is a way to get it to only return existant recordings? |
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[03:37:38] | elmojo: | Beirdo: started making the changes for both duration and position using the comm flag duration result – I'm trying to derive the position from the duration and totalFrames but totalFrames is based on the last keyframe in the position map which can be quite a bit off from the actual last frame |
[03:37:55] | Beirdo: | yeah, it can |
[03:38:07] | elmojo: | we need to record the total frames when comm flagging |
[03:38:10] | Beirdo: | shouldn't be more than 1s off though, ideally |
[03:38:21] | Beirdo: | we do in master, do we not? |
[03:38:26] | elmojo: | I'm seeing more than 1 sec |
[03:38:41] | elmojo: | we don't use it to derive position yet |
[03:39:01] | Beirdo: | Oh |
[03:39:03] | Beirdo: | heh |
[03:40:14] | elmojo: | thinking about naming these variables commflagDuration and commflagFrames |
[03:43:54] | Beirdo: | sounds reasonable |
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[14:41:34] | elmojo: | markk: got any opinions on whether we should move to using ffmpeg for CrystalHD support or continue to support our own methods? |
[14:42:13] | elmojo: | looks like Philip Langdale is putting a tremendous amount of effort to make the CrystalHD work for everything under the sun within ffmpeg |
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[15:01:52] | markk: | elmojo: I say move to ffmpeg/libav – although it's moot until we actually get a sync. I suspect CrystalHD will be crusty old technology by the time we actually get anything done |
[15:06:35] | elmojo: | markk: agreed, plus Naren seemed to /dev/null us the last time we asked him to look at our issue |
[15:08:21] | elmojo: | ffmpeg-mt will also decrease the allure of the CrystalHD, then you are looking at the only advantages being low performance systems (ie, atom) and low power needs (mobile computing) |
[15:15:24] | stuarta: | which is an argument for keeping our own code |
[15:30:38] | dblain: | Captain_Murdoch: It seems somewhere along the way, index.html had some references to files (css, js,...) added that are in the setup directory which is protected. This causes the loading of index.html to request authentication. |
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[16:16:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | dblain, ah, thanks. yeah, I'll clean that up. we weren't thinking about that with the menu conversion. I'll go through the css and js files and consolidate, etc.. to fix that issue. |
[16:17:17] | GreyFoxx: | Captain_Murdoch: Run into any issues with that patch ? (beyond thedebug stuff and such) |
[16:18:12] | dblain: | thanks. I'm having a strange issue with chrome. After I enter a username & password, it's only sending me ":" instead of the values entered. I know it worked before and ie9 currently works as expected. |
[16:18:41] | Captain_Murdoch: | GreyFoxx, no issues I saw, but didn't give it any kind of beating with the frontend though. If you've regression tested with v4 then I think you can put it in once you're ready. |
[16:18:58] | GreyFoxx: | Cool. Minor cleanup and I'll look to get it in |
[16:18:59] | dblain: | either way, it exposed an issue with the pages being cached. I'm going to override the cache-control header on protected resources. |
[16:19:12] | Captain_Murdoch: | dblain, by 'sending me', you mean it's not sending the username/pw to the backend in the request? |
[16:19:20] | dblain: | yep |
[16:21:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | nothing odd I see about that code, it just uses jquery's .val() to get the values of the fields and then does a .post() specifying json as the type. can you sprinkle an alert() or two inside html/setup/js/password.js to see if it has the vars correct in there? |
[16:21:55] | dblain: | Didn't realize you replaced the standard password box. I'll see what I can find. |
[16:22:52] | GreyFoxx: | Speaking of jquery. (since I happen to be using it for somethings else at the moment). Do yo uhappen to know if you can pass a username/password getJSON ? |
[16:24:05] | GreyFoxx: | err I mean specify a username and password for the URL being grabbed in getJSON (totally OT I know) |
[16:24:17] | dblain: | jQuery.ajaxSetup({username: myusername, password: mypassword }); |
[16:24:29] | GreyFoxx: | oooh sweet |
[16:24:34] | dblain: | Haven't tried it, but looks promising. |
[16:25:31] | GreyFoxx: | That looks like it worked :) |
[16:26:31] | dblain: | Captain_Murdoch: I think there may be some mis-communication. The password issue I'm seeing with chrome is not when changing a password, but logging in to display any page. |
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[16:32:55] | dblain: | of course, didn't work for 20+min, now that I tell someone about it, it starts to work fine. Oh well. |
[16:36:42] | Captain_Murdoch: | dblain, yeah, I misunderstood. |
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[17:01:19] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: any chance you could put your IPv6 patch onto a branch on github? |
[17:03:08] | iamlindoro: | Heh, he has resisted learning how to commit, and you want him to do a branch, you must be eager to get us back to SVN ;) |
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[18:55:30] | wagnerrp: | the mythbuntu guys have some download statistics if anyone is interested... http://mythbuntu.org/ppastats/stats.html |
[18:57:36] | superm1: | those are just for 0.24 downloads from the PPA particularly. not any mirrors, not people who don't add updated 0.24 builds to their ubuntu's |
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[19:44:53] | sm7syx: | so I try to run mythtv on different distros.... And I get the problem with versions. 23056 and 56! Please help |
[19:47:13] | stuarta: | step 1. read the topic |
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[19:57:26] | ** dblain needs to spend some time updating the wiki so I don't have to keep explaining things in e-mails :/ ** | |
[19:58:02] | stuarta: | ah documentation. the bane of all developers lives |
[19:59:53] | stuarta: | there's a buglet |
[20:00:25] | stuarta: | the scheduled recordings screen now appears to show when a recording transitions from upcoming to tuning, but it never updated to recording |
[20:10:47] | mrand: | I try to always answer questions by sending out an updated version of the documentation. Only type something once. Of course, IRC is the inverse of that. |
[20:11:48] | stuarta: | that's probably why there's a rumour floating around that i have "please read the topic" bound to a hotkey |
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[20:12:52] | clever: | id bind it up myself but id probly spam the room on ocasion when i hit a wrong button |
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[21:21:33] | tgm4883: | superm1, other than what you said about 0.24, everything else is right |
[21:21:42] | superm1: | that's for both 0.24 and 0.25? |
[21:21:51] | tgm4883: | all of our PPA's |
[21:21:57] | tgm4883: | 0.21–0.25 |
[21:22:08] | tgm4883: | Thats why the data goes back to hardy |
[21:22:11] | superm1: | oh that explains why there was some hardy and earlier stuff |
[21:22:12] | superm1: | yeah |
[21:22:14] | tgm4883: | well, intrepid |
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[21:46:18] | danielk22: | dblain: Can you post that documentation somewhere other than a private discussion area ;] maybe the wiki, or failing that the mythtv-dev mailing list? |
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[22:08:28] | iamlindoro: | our ticket triage is a travesty |
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[22:14:56] | iamlindoro: | (at the moment) |
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[22:24:15] | skd5aner: | if you want some help at first level triage, I'd be willing to volunteer – I'm sure I could take a little pressure off you guys if nothing else |
[22:24:22] | skd5aner: | just throwing it out there |
[22:24:30] | iamlindoro: | I would be alright with that |
[22:24:42] | iamlindoro: | we had people before who were triage-only, but they all up and disappeared |
[22:25:05] | iamlindoro: | Can't imagine why, it's such an awesome job to get yelled at by users, and the pay is great |
[22:25:08] | skd5aner: | eh – can't promise that I'd be here indeffinitely, but I've been around since 2004, so... :) |
[22:25:28] | iamlindoro: | Sorry, indefinitely or no special hat |
[22:25:29] | iamlindoro: | ;) |
[22:26:19] | iamlindoro: | The hard part about ticket triage is unraveling which are dupes, which just look like dupes, which are FRWOPs, which are misconfigurations, and which are complaints |
[22:26:28] | iamlindoro: | but no matter which you decide is which, you still get yelled at ;) |
[22:27:15] | skd5aner: | yea – I think the dupe thing would be the most difficult for me, just because I don't necessarily remember "oh yea – I spent 10 seconds 4 months ago reading the same report" – I sleep a lot in 4 months ;) |
[22:28:43] | skd5aner: | But I can at least weed out the obvious stuff pretty quickly, assign to the correct folks, remove milestones – etc |
[22:28:48] | skd5aner: | the busy work stuff |
[22:29:27] | skd5aner: | and, make sure wagnerrp is happy by removing --version info from the bug report and attaching as a file – heh |
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[23:09:08] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: no kidding |
[23:10:04] | dblain: | danielk22: Putting it all in the wiki was always my plan. I'm just trying to get all the major features working before I do formal documentation. Right now I'm working on the g_pConfig segfault and I still need to get WSDL working correctly. |
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[23:26:56] | wagnerrp: | is #9651 possibly just a different symptom of #6663? |
[23:28:07] | wagnerrp: | well its certainly a duplicate of #8707 |
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