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| [01:29:36] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [01:29:37] | iamlindoro: | http://smolt.mythtv.org/client/show_all/pub_5 . . . e7822fd92451 |
| [01:29:43] | iamlindoro: | "Tux Droid fish dongle" |
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| [01:59:00] | wagnerrp: | presumably this... http://www.linuxfordevices.com/files/misc/tux_droid_fux.jpg |
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| [12:03:10] | stuartm: | am I just missing it, or does smolt not indicate the mythtv version (major)? |
| [12:04:08] | stuartm: | list plugins, role (back/frontend/both) and theme but I cannot see version info |
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| [12:47:19] | markk_: | so – anyone have any idea why video scanning crashes without fail? |
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| [12:56:19] | stuartm: | markk_: yes and no, I know where it's crashing but not the why |
| [12:57:42] | stuartm: | it's the progress dialog, in customEvent() when it receives an update event, the dynamic cast is failing – this despite no changes to that code in a couple of years |
| [12:59:24] | stuartm: | we could try swapping it for a static cast, but that wouldn't answer the question of why it's no longer able to dynamically cast QEvent to a MythProgressEvent |
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| [13:04:55] | markk_: | could it be related to the visibility changes? |
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| [13:29:53] | stuartm: | maybe, although those shouldn't have affected linux it's a strong possibility |
| [13:31:16] | stuartm: | building with --disable-symbol-visibility would answer that definitively |
| [14:07:51] | danielk22: | stuartm: That really shouldn't be a dynamic cast right? it will always be a MythProgressEvent |
| [14:09:51] | danielk22: | hmm, I had mythbackend die on me overnight in a call from libGL.so.1 that doesn't make any sense, but someone submitted a stacktrace like that recently.. |
| [14:14:43] | stuartm: | danielk22: it can safely be a static_cast, but a dynamic cast shouldn't be causing problems – I'd rather discover and fix the root cause of the issue than switch the cast type and effectively ignore it |
| [14:15:50] | stuartm: | once the root cause is fixed then I've no issues with switching to a static cast there for whatever that might be worth |
| [14:20:45] | danielk22: | yeah, it may very well be the canary |
| [14:52:40] | danielk22: | heh, I think I figured out the wacky libGL.so.1 backend backtrace using the log. Looks like a threading start/stop problem. |
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| [16:41:33] | jams: | stuarta- you are correct, right now it doesn't report the version. That is mostly because I never asked it to, it's a simple thing to add. |
| [16:41:47] | stuarta: | stuartm: ^^^ |
| [16:43:16] | jams: | right stuartm =) |
| [16:43:26] | stuarta: | :) |
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| [17:37:56] | iamlindoro: | /etc/timezone might be useful too |
| [17:38:15] | iamlindoro: | gives a general geographic area... and maybe myth locale and language settings |
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| [17:52:39] | jams: | yeah xris and I discussed that abit. Pretty much waiting for a list a things to collect & then verifing that smolt/smoon is the best route. |
| [17:53:14] | wagnerrp: | should i fire off an email to the developer asking for what we want to collect? |
| [17:54:02] | jams: | i thought xris was going todo that or already did it. I don't know since I can't see -developer |
| [17:54:21] | wagnerrp: | nope |
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| [18:11:19] | sphery: | iamlindoro / wagnerrp / jams: We should use getTimeZoneID() to get time zone info... /etc/timezone is Debian, /etc/sysconfig/clock is RedHat, and some distros have neither (so require actually following the link at /etc/localtime--if it's a link--or comparing /etc/localtime to every file in /usr/share/zoneinfo until you find a match). The lib code does all this for us. |
| [18:11:53] | sphery: | note, though, that getTimeZoneID() just gives a mostly-useless UTC offset on Windows |
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| [18:13:12] | sphery: | someone would need to port the Windows-time-zone-database-ID-to-the-one-used-by-everyone-else code so we could get useful zone IDs on Windows. |
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| [18:18:30] | wagnerrp: | how does the frontend do it to allow it to connect to the backend? |
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| [18:31:35] | sphery: | wagnerrp: it uses getTimeZoneID(), but indirectly, through checkTimeZone() |
| [18:32:30] | sphery: | QUERY_TIME_ZONE is exposed on the backend protocol. We could also add a call to the frontend web server or something if you need it for getting frontend zone info? |
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| [18:33:49] | wagnerrp: | nah, if i switch it to using the python bindings, backend protocol would be sufficient |
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| [19:18:33] | danielk22: | Before anyone flames me on the mailing list, I just forgot to bottom post. I know the convention and even agree with it most days. ;] |
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| [19:22:16] | kormoc: | danielk22, I thought it was why we created the mpeg2 demo tuner? |
| [19:24:31] | danielk22: | kormoc: No, you there are several "dummy" tuners already available. It should work without any tuner now AFAIK. |
| [19:25:12] | kormoc: | it doesn't afaik. Still just bails without a tuner |
| [19:26:00] | wagnerrp: | 0.24 and trunk both bail due to a sanity check in the scheduler |
| [19:26:01] | danielk22: | in 24-fixes too? |
| [19:26:20] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [19:26:25] | danielk22: | i guess we didn't make the 0.24 deadline then... |
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| [19:26:57] | wagnerrp: | and actually, i was talking with mario, and hes planning on patching that stuff in locally for their mythbuntu 11.04 stuff |
| [19:27:13] | wagnerrp: | so users could mess around with mythtv a bit to try it out |
| [19:27:30] | wagnerrp: | without having to set up dummy tuners/sources/channels |
| [19:27:38] | sphery: | danielk22: if there are any inputs defined, it works--even if those inputs only exist on other hosts |
| [19:27:44] | sphery: | so it's not even a complete/proper check |
| [19:28:09] | danielk22: | I think we were pretty close, but it wasn't my baby so I don't know what the gotcha's are. |
| [19:28:27] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch would know, i think it was something to do with the storage handling |
| [19:28:39] | sphery: | danielk22: and since 0.22, the "can't find backend" popup appears every time you're in main menu, so using mythfrontend for plugins without a backend is mostly unusable |
| [19:29:27] | danielk22: | sphery: it was never really kosher to run the frontend without any backend. |
| [19:29:54] | wagnerrp: | and thats basically why i closed that ticket 'wontfix' |
| [19:29:57] | sphery: | yeah, I think we need to just break up mythbackend now... too many users are running mythbackend without inputs |
| [19:30:06] | wagnerrp: | it could be done before, but it wasnt supported, and it wasnt 'kosher' |
| [19:30:25] | sphery: | I may actually put some time into that... been struggling with what to call the program that starts the daemon programs... mythmonitor? mythcontroller? ... |
| [19:30:35] | danielk22: | mythmaster |
| [19:30:53] | sphery: | figured mythmaster would be the master backend part that does scheduling, autoexpire scheduling, ... |
| [19:31:34] | sphery: | mythmonitor/mythcontroller would run on all hosts and start mythmaster or mythjobqueue or ... depending on the host configuration |
| [19:31:43] | wagnerrp: | you want to keep that as a separate executable, rather than turn stuff on/off like the current mythbackend? |
| [19:31:48] | sphery: | and could monitor them and restart them as necessary |
| [19:32:13] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I just want it so that distros don't need a separate start script for 10 daemon programs, that are only run on some systems |
| [19:32:35] | sphery: | so distro starts mythmonitor/mythcontroller, then it starts all the required daemon programs |
| [19:32:41] | wagnerrp: | i mean just use mythmaster to start the other programs up |
| [19:32:54] | wagnerrp: | and have it decide one of them to be the scheduler |
| [19:32:56] | sphery: | but mythmaster will only run on one host--the host that does scheduling |
| [19:33:39] | kormoc: | MythSystemMonitorOfGlobalThermoNuclearDoomWar |
| [19:33:41] | sphery: | I figured having it separate would be better--rather than commingling all the "what services should I run" code into the same app that has the scheduling and such |
| [19:34:06] | sphery: | basically, trying to keep each app small, rather than our current "one app does it all" design |
| [19:34:13] | kormoc: | the unix way! |
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| [19:34:19] | kormoc: | one task, done well |
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| [19:35:08] | sphery: | I do like that approach :) |
| [19:35:21] | kormoc: | makes testing much easier |
| [19:37:24] | wagnerrp: | mmm... doomwar |
| [19:37:32] | sphery: | and finding the code you're looking for |
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| [19:38:07] | Captain_Murdoch: | my patch was to allow tunerless masters, I didn't touch the scheduler. there may be code in there that requires at least one tuner somewhere. |
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| [19:41:53] | Captain_Murdoch: | splitting up the binaries also allows people to use all their atoms. atom #1 runs the master, #2 the DB, #3 the housekeeper, #4 the jobqueue scheduler, etc. :) |
| [19:43:07] | kormoc: | one table per atom and a federated engine on the master db atom ;) |
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| [22:21:52] | sphery: | So, I have a patch that makes it so only the master mythbackend app can upgrade the DB schema (but mythtv-setup on any host can upgrade it). It doesn't affect initial DB creation, either. Does anyone have any reason why I shouldn't apply it or do we really want various hosts racing to upgrade the DB before the MBE is started? http://mythtv.pastebin.com/5vWEEPAT |
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| [22:22:13] | sphery: | and plugin schema upgrades are unaffected |
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| [22:25:46] | kormoc: | I like races. I get to wager on the outcome! |
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| [22:31:39] | sphery: | heh, maybe I just dislike races since I always lose |
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| [23:16:54] | sphery: | paul-h: Sorry it took me so long to get back to you on this one, but for http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9389 , I've finished fixing what I mistakenly thought was the problem (I assumed MythArchive was using mythcommflag --getcutlist to get the cut list). As far as the attached Python code in cutlisttrans.txt, I don't know my Python, so I'm not a good choice for reviewing that. Would you like the ticket back, or do you want to see if ... |
| [23:17:00] | sphery: | ... wagnerrp is interested in reviewing the provided changes for 0.24-fixes and master? (Or maybe just putting his Python bindings implementation into master? :) |
| [23:21:05] | paul-h: | sphery: pass it back to me I'll take a look when I get time |
| [23:21:33] | sphery: | thx |
| [23:24:22] | paul-h: | sphery: does 0.24-fixes and master both have the same problem with the start and end cuts missing from the db or just master? |
| [23:25:06] | wagnerrp: | paul-h: let me know if you want me to take a look |
| [23:25:17] | wagnerrp: | i havent looked at my patch in months |
| [23:25:23] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if it will still apply cleanly |
| [23:25:29] | wagnerrp: | and i never actually tested it |
| [23:26:59] | sphery: | paul-h: both of them store the cutlist without specifying first or last-frame (using the mark type to determine direction). For the string-based output from mythcommflag --getcutlist, I just modified it to add the 0 and <last-known-keyframe>+60 (and I think I put that in both 0.24-fixes and master) |
| [23:28:57] | paul-h: | sphery: wonder how the script would get the last frame? |
| [23:30:19] | paul-h: | wagnerrp: does the python bindings handle this properly? |
| [23:30:53] | sphery: | hmmm... I didn't put the patch into 0.24-fixes since it added a new function to programinfo.cpp, and I didn't want to modify the binary/plugin version in -fixes. |
| [23:31:42] | wagnerrp: | the python bindings offer a 'gencutlist' function, which produces a list of two-tuples marking the cut out sections |
| [23:31:52] | sphery: | was holding it until we did a 0.24.1, if we decide to |
| [23:31:59] | wagnerrp: | if a section is cut to the beginning, it will insert a 0, if it is cut to end, it will insert a 99999999 |
| [23:32:04] | wagnerrp: | not sure of a better way to handle that case |
| [23:32:12] | wagnerrp: | since we do not store the total frame count |
| [23:33:34] | sphery: | would definitely be nice if we stored total frames from the recorder in recordedmarkup. could query where type = MARK_LAST_FRAME (or would that be MARK_LAST_KEYFRAME?) |
| [23:33:51] | paul-h: | wagnerrp: ok thanks, don't know what projectx will make of that as a last frame number, I'll have to try it |
| [23:34:39] | sphery: | though, don't know if that's actually any different from grabbing the last of the MARK_GOP_BYFRAME or MARK_GOP_START or MARK_KEYFRAME from recordedseek. |
| [23:40:03] | wagnerrp: | paul-h: heres an example of the output... |
| [23:42:54] | wagnerrp: | htp://mythtv.oastebin.ca/cZg18HV2 |
| [23:49:03] | sphery: | or http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/cZg18HV2 , perhaps :) (though I can't get to pastebin.ca) |
| [23:52:00] | wagnerrp: | htp://mythtv.oastebin.com/cZg18HV2 |
| [23:52:05] | wagnerrp: | not ca |
| [23:52:31] | paul-h: | sphery, wagnerrp: yeah found it. that's better than querying the db :) It's just the last frame that could be the problem. I assume our lossless transcoder is happy with that as a last frame? |
| [23:52:57] | wagnerrp: | i dont know, never tried it |
| [23:56:09] | sphery: | paul-h: are you actually setting a cut list for our lossless transcoder (using mythcommflag --setcutlist) or something? If you're just calling it against the cut list in the DB, it work properly (since it knows the mark types). I guess maybe I should look at --setcutlist and make it store the cut list properly without the 0/last-frame |
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