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| [01:11:33] | superm1: | this hardware profile stuff, should it be installed with frontends, backends, or both? |
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| [01:13:11] | iamlindoro: | both |
| [01:13:48] | iamlindoro: | right now it's only triggered on frontends (manually or monthly updates) but by .25 it will also be run on the backend by the housekeeper |
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| [01:15:24] | superm1: | okay, i'll put it in common then, thanks |
| [01:16:22] | iamlindoro: | no problem, thanks |
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| [01:17:50] | jya: | hum... disappointing.. on the mac, I get the amplifier to display Dolby Digital Plus; but what comes out is a very slowed down version of the original.. |
| [01:18:18] | superm1: | just as an FYI, there shouldn't ever be a worry that stuff like this doesn't get installed in the future ubuntu builds. are builds now adays catch when files weren't installed somewhere (eg: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/65325752/buildl . . . UILD.txt.gz) |
| [01:18:27] | superm1: | so the build will fail and email us to fix it |
| [01:18:59] | iamlindoro: | cool, that's a welcome improvement |
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| [02:07:54] | jya: | How required is a "NULL" audio output device? |
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| [02:20:16] | danielk22: | jya: AFAIK that just so A/V sync doesn't go bonkers when you are doing a quick test without an audio device (either as a dev testing on a virt or as someone trying to get everything else set up while you wait for a Linux compatible audio device to arrive from your vendor.) |
| [02:20:39] | jya: | danielk22: Well, there are two ways I can fix the NULL device and A/V sync |
| [02:21:03] | jya: | the easy one: make the Open function always return false; so audio is simply disabled |
| [02:21:26] | jya: | or implement a "true" NULL device; and one that properly manage timestamp |
| [02:22:32] | jya: | problem is that the current NULL returns too quickly when writing the audio, and now myth expect everything to by synchronous... I didn't think of the impact on the null device |
| [02:22:51] | danielk22: | jya: As long as the use case is taken care of I don't think anyone has a stake in the how. |
| [02:23:12] | jya: | if the use case; is just so it plays nothing, option #1 achieve that |
| [02:23:29] | jya: | and it's a matter of doing return true into return false |
| [02:23:40] | jya: | I'm puzzled why it fails that way though |
| [02:24:11] | jya: | in the log you'll see an "Error opening audio device, audio disabled" ; and that's it |
| [02:24:28] | jya: | so for testing video playback it does the job |
| [02:26:50] | danielk22: | jya: Sound is just not something any of the core devs have ever had a huge interest in before.. so there are .. oddities .. |
| [02:27:58] | jya: | For the time being, I'm just going to make the NULL device always fail when opening the device. will look into why it fails with wrong timestamp later |
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| [03:42:30] | sphery: | danielk22: we don't use NULL audio device for mythcommflag? (I may be way off on that, but thought I had heard that somewhere.) |
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| [05:32:35] | jya: | sphery: I will have a look on how mythcommflag is running |
| [05:33:06] | jya: | it could well be; I saw an entry point in the NULL device that let you read the content of the audio written to the card |
| [05:33:18] | jya: | which would be useful in order to extract the decoded audio |
| [05:33:25] | jya: | maybe that's what mythtranscode uses |
| [05:33:38] | jya: | though I don't think so, it reimplement its own audio class |
| [05:36:03] | sphery: | yeah, nothing in mythcommflag actually uses the audio, yet, so only concern would be that if it's using the null device it can handle whatever changes you need to make |
| [05:47:15] | jya: | now, using the NULL audio device, simply errors out when opening the device |
| [05:47:20] | jya: | so audio is simply disabled. |
| [05:47:25] | jya: | end result is the same. |
| [05:47:53] | jya: | I can tell that NULL was probably designed for something else in the past: it write the uncompressed audio in a buffer; and there is a function to read from it |
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| [08:34:16] | stuartm: | heh, Adobe website redirects some pages to browser requirements page which informs me that I must use either IE, Netscape Navigator or AOL's browser to access the adobe website |
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| [14:16:32] | danielk22: | jya: sphery: there was talk of using the audio for commflag, but nothing ever came of it. |
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| [14:33:19] | ** Captain_Murdoch doesn't know how that works now, we never reference 'audio' anywhere in the mythcommflag or mythcommflagplayer source. the flagger goes into a loop calling MythPlayer::GetRawVideoFrame() looking at the code, it doesn't look like we ever create and audio output for the flagger since MythPlayer::IsAudioNeeded() should return false because we call MythPlayer::SetNullVideo() inside the flagger. ** | |
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| [18:15:13] | tomimo: | Has someone seen a wierd case, where the matchingPMT just doesn't seem to appear at all for some programs ? |
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| [18:15:33] | tomimo: | this is of course on DVB-land |
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