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Friday, February 25th, 2011, 00:21 UTC
[00:21:36] xris: iamlindoro: jams is looking into the smolt server issue. he was able to replicate it with RHEL 5.6 (vs our centos 5.5)
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[01:15:40] cainus: hey all... I was wondering if anyone can tell me about how you do tv listings... are they in xmltv format? is there some public api somewhere?
[01:25:14] wagnerrp: is this really a development question? or would you be better served in #mythtv-users?
[01:25:42] cainus: do users ask this? I figured only developers would know/care
[01:26:01] wagnerrp: users have to set up their own guide data service, usually xmltv
[01:26:12] cainus: ah okay cool... thanks... I'll try there
[01:26:16] wagnerrp: although in your case (canada), it would be schedules direct
[01:26:43] cainus: where can I get more info on that?
[01:26:59] cainus: I assume its some service
[01:27:03] wagnerrp: schedulesdirect.org
[01:27:15] cainus: thanks
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[02:01:20] wagnerrp: Captain_Murdoch, danielk22: right now, there are separate connections from a client for queries and events
[02:01:35] wagnerrp: there is further a third connection on slave backends for inbound queries from the master
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[02:02:04] wagnerrp: i would like to consolidate these all into one connection, but i honestly cant think of a clean way to do it
[02:02:33] wagnerrp: specifically, a clean way to handle the race condition of both sides locking the connection and triggering a query
[02:03:39] wagnerrp: the easier option would be to continue maintaining two separate connections, each one-way
[02:03:54] wagnerrp: but if thats the case, i would want to force such operation on all connected clients, not just official ones
[02:04:23] wagnerrp: right now, mythweb, the bindings, and third party stuff all retrieves events on the same connection as queries are made on
[02:05:30] wagnerrp: while this works well enough for events, it would not for queries made from master to slave, or planned queries from master to jobqueue, master to fileserver, or any other future possibility
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[02:06:26] danielk22: wagnerrp: If you want to only have one connection you need to use nonces so that you can pair a reply to a query. But I'm not sure if a new protocol is worth the effort right now. It seems it would make lives difficult for 3rd party clients and make work for us.
[02:06:56] danielk22: Plus proposals such as XML or json encapsulations would make the protocol even slower than it already is.
[02:07:44] wagnerrp: well the alternate serialization was just something thrown on the table as an option
[02:08:30] wagnerrp: i wanted to rework the protocol because i want mythjobqueue to be able to receive commands from the master backend
[02:08:41] wagnerrp: right now, thats all handled through mainserver.cpp in mythbackend
[02:08:53] wagnerrp: so adding that would require duplicating all that code
[02:09:17] wagnerrp: at the very least, i want to move that handling into a shared library, im thinking something attached to gcorecontext at the moment
[02:10:02] wagnerrp: the modularization is something that would be required for the possibility of future backend plugins
[02:10:20] wagnerrp: which is in turn something that would be necessary if we ever intend to make use of an embedded database
[02:11:38] danielk22: wagnerrp: sure, but that wouldn't really change the protocol, just move the code. i'm just worried that by trying to kill two or more birds at once you will get bogged down cuz some of those birds are mean SOBs.
[02:12:07] wagnerrp: fair enough
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[02:19:33] elmojo: was 260.19.06 an nvidia driver version with known issues?
[02:20:03] wagnerrp: well just moving it is probably something i can get cracked out in a day or two
[02:20:15] wagnerrp: since that part is really mostly written as it is
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[03:03:21] Captain_Murdoch: wagnerrp, I'm the same camp as danielk22. I say treat them as separate projects. when looking at a new proto, it might even be better to add new protocol support in a parallel fashion, supporting existing clients over the old proto, but adding new methods one by one to the new proto or cutting them over one by one. perhaps even a new backend port for the new protocol.
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[03:10:01] elmojo: markk_: I totally missed the guy was using an Interlaced modeline
[03:10:30] elmojo: I still believe an ION needs dual-channel memory config to perform adequately
[03:15:49] markk_: elmojo: I've given up trying to help out on ION configs in general. It's too close to the wire for good performance and there are too many variables in play. My ION will play anything with temporal2x – but I have a consistent network issue that means bluray playback is often flaky.
[03:17:49] mycosys: ion doers need dual channel to perform well
[03:17:52] mycosys: *does
[03:19:19] elmojo: agreed
[03:21:14] mycosys: is there a way to remove all the recordings from the database, and then add em back later?
[03:21:28] iamlindoro: mycosys, you want #mythtv-users
[03:21:35] mycosys: bugger lol
[03:33:55] mycosys: is there documentation of the database structure in mythconverge?
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[05:20:18] danielk22: mycosys: A little bit, http://www.cuymedia.net/mythtv-trunk/group__db__schema.html http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Schema
[05:21:05] mycosys: ty :)
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[05:46:56] wagnerrp: danielk22, mycosys: also... http://code.mythtv.org/doxygen/group__db__schema.html
[05:47:36] wagnerrp: rebuilt every six hours
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[11:47:10] jya: elmojo: ping
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[12:06:23] danielk22: wagnerrp: The code.mythtv.org doxygen docs only cover trunk?
[12:21:41] jya: elmojo: looking at the code in avfd working with timecode ; one obvious issue is that it uses the number of real channels in the calculation, it should be the number of channels used in the transport stream.
[12:22:26] jya: So for AC3, 6 channels should in fact be 2 (AC3/DTS_core is transported over 2ch PCM) ; otherwise that timestamp is meaningless
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[12:41:10] wagnerrp: danielk22: likely yes, although Beirdo could probably set up additional versions easily
[12:41:21] wagnerrp: not sure why we would need the docs from old versions though
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[14:27:16] jya: sphery: what's the way now to start mythfrontend trunk with a 0.24 backend so it won't try to upgrade the database? kind of lost with the way to do it now, -D IGNORE_SCHEMA_VER_MISMATCH doesn't work anymore
[14:27:17] jya: thanks
[14:33:46] sphery: jya: Hmmmm... -D IGNORE_SCHEMA_VER_MISMATCH should still work. I'm not sure why it wouldn't work. I'll have to take a look at it when I get home (weather/airlines permitting, sometime late tonight). I'll try to test it out/fix it tomorrow. My first guess is that something changed with configure so it's not properly setting IGNORE_SCHEMA_VER_MISMATCH, anymore, or something.
[14:38:07] clever: jya: one method ive seen before, is to run the 2nd version under another username, and setup the mysql name/pw to be diff, and youll probly need the upnp pin too now
[14:38:24] clever: without the pw to mysql, it cant do any harm, a 2nd username lets it run under its own db
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[20:19:17] jya: sphery: this is my config line:./^Cnfigure --prefix=/usr/local/mythtv-trunk --compile-type=debug --extra-cxxflags='-D IGNORE_SCHEMA_VER_MISMATCH -D IGNORE_PROTO_VER_MISMATCH' ; but when I start mythfrontend , the first thing it does it let me know that the db schema is different and start backing up
[20:28:33] jya: markk_: For the timestamps, in place of elmojo patch ; can you try this simple one ? http://mythtv.pastebin.com/9D66p1Ee
[20:28:36] jya: (for 0.24)
[20:29:38] jya: this will have the same result as decoding the audio and looking at the decoded size
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[23:34:29] gnat42: so thanks to the help of this chat room I have myth happily recording all my shows from my Hauppage 150 – however the transcoding isn't happening
[23:34:47] gnat42: I've set the recordings to automatically transcode, and selected a setting, and modified the settings
[23:35:12] gnat42: but I don't end up seeing any transcoded files – are they stored elsewhere? or how can I figure this out?
[23:36:06] gnat42: I see that commercial detection happened
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[23:47:47] wagnerrp: gnat42: i doubt this chat room helped you do anything
[23:48:36] gnat42: oh hell I didn't notice the -users one
[23:48:37] gnat42: sorry
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