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[01:07:23] | mianos: | is there a normal way to clear all the video library metadata? |
[01:10:58] | wagnerrp: | wrong channel, see topic |
[01:11:38] | mianos: | oops yes sorry |
[01:11:50] | mianos: | I just reconnected my irc session |
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[05:49:00] | darnell: | where can i find some help with the mythtv setup |
[05:49:09] | darnell: | why do i keep getting this no backend upnd |
[05:49:15] | darnell: | makes no sense |
[05:56:41] | xris: | darnell: asking in the correct channel is a good start |
[05:56:46] | xris: | (i.e. not here) |
[05:57:12] | darnell: | obviously i didn't continue . |
[05:57:30] | darnell: | meaning i eventually read the topic and figured it out a&**hole |
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[11:35:48] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9518 |
[11:37:37] | stuartm: | three possibilities – 1) he saw my commits and worked very fast 2) He hangs out in IRC and knew what we were proposing to do 3) He's pyschic |
[11:38:08] | stuartm: | well I guess there's a fourth option – Pure coincidence |
[11:42:52] | stuartm: | ok, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9518 – that one he definitely didn't just knock up |
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[12:25:47] | stuartm: | if anyone identifies a _simple_ way to update all local branches (which track remotes) in one go then I'd love to hear it, I miss that ability from svn and it's really annoying to checkout and update every branch manually |
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[12:37:35] | stuarta: | stuartm: i thought git pull --all did the trick |
[12:38:29] | stuartm: | I thought it might, but it doesn't |
[12:38:46] | stuartm: | it pulls all the remotes but only merges the current branch |
[12:39:00] | stuarta: | it seems to do something more than a plain git pull, but not a complete update of all branches |
[12:39:08] | ** stuarta wonders if there's a fetch --all ** | |
[12:39:22] | stuartm: | there is, that's what pull --all does |
[12:39:30] | stuartm: | but there's no merge --all |
[12:39:52] | stuarta: | so it never fast-forwards all branches... |
[12:39:53] | stuarta: | okay |
[12:41:57] | ** stuarta doesn't remember svn having that feature tho... ** | |
[12:42:41] | stuartm: | if you ran 'svn up' at the root it would update everything |
[12:43:18] | stuarta: | ah i see what you mean |
[12:43:48] | stuarta: | since in svn branches are only actually copies, whilst in git they are true branches |
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[14:11:25] | iamlindoro: | stuartm, Heh, yeah-- looks like some/all of the patches already won't apply since they're against the old paths |
[14:11:44] | iamlindoro: | We pretty much have to add Lawrence to committers-- nobody else can handle the volume of his patches ;) |
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[15:28:44] | stuartm: | I'm thinking about re-designing the plugin interface to do away with the callbacks, instead each plugin would register a handler object that would launch screens but crucially also receive events and track state, it would be more flexible and much tidier |
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[16:00:57] | okolsi: | someone should be some beers to Lawrence :D |
[16:01:54] | okolsi: | Berido: I'll try later today your latest patches related to mythsystem crash |
[16:02:16] | okolsi: | Beirdo: ^^^ |
[16:02:22] | iamlindoro: | We will just add his uniqueness to our collective |
[16:02:29] | iamlindoro: | he will be... assimilated |
[16:03:22] | okolsi: | huh.. can't spell anymore, maybe even buy some beers and not be some beers :) |
[16:10:05] | stuarta: | the assimilation process seems to be defective |
[16:10:11] | stuarta: | i detect individual thought |
[16:12:24] | stuartm: | don't worry, that spirit will be crushed soon enough |
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[16:53:40] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/830c5d7 |
[16:54:03] | stuartm: | that gets you media events in myththemedmenu, how you now use them is upto you ;) |
[16:54:04] | iamlindoro: | nice! |
[16:54:38] | iamlindoro: | Heh, I was actually mostly working with the media events in my MythVideo interface rewrite, but can/will still be looking at myththemedmenu too |
[16:55:26] | stuartm: | ah, well where ever you use them, that's a template you can work from |
[16:55:39] | iamlindoro: | That's awesome, thanks so much |
[16:56:02] | stuartm: | I thought you wanted them in myththemedmenu to show/hide optical disc options and autoload metadata etc |
[16:56:13] | iamlindoro: | I do |
[16:56:18] | iamlindoro: | and still do :) |
[16:56:48] | iamlindoro: | It was just easiest to work within the confines of unreleased code so that I couldn't step on any toes-- I do still intend the myththemedmenu changes too |
[16:57:14] | iamlindoro: | Awesome work, will try to make it worth your effort ;) |
[16:57:25] | stuartm: | that only delivers status events along with a device object you can query (be warned that it's a pointer to the original, I doubt it's thread safe so probably best to create a copy) |
[16:57:50] | stuartm: | you'd still need to query the media monitor for disc status when first creating a screen |
[16:58:27] | iamlindoro: | noted |
[16:58:58] | stuartm: | i.e. updates only |
[16:59:06] | iamlindoro: | right |
[17:00:53] | stuartm: | when I get time I'll work on the thread safety, for now I'm working with what was already there |
[17:03:21] | stuartm: | should be possible to make good use of this in mythmusic and mythgallery, I look forward to that |
[17:04:42] | j-rod: | iamlindoro: goofy question for ya... |
[17:05:35] | j-rod: | don't suppose you have pix of your hdpvr internals that show plainly what frequency a crystal oscillator near the z8 chip operates at? |
[17:05:47] | iamlindoro: | Let me see what I have |
[17:06:39] | j-rod: | iamlindoro: its actually andy walls (awalls) after the info, so I should have asked on #linuxtv… feel free to reply over there if you like |
[17:07:04] | iamlindoro: | j-rod: Where on the board is the chip? I'm looking at what I have right now |
[17:07:26] | j-rod: | good question. not sure, never opened mine :) |
[17:07:43] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/w/images/9/90/HDPVR-Mount-7.jpg |
[17:08:01] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/w/images/6/61/HDPVR-Mount-9.JPG |
[17:08:11] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/w/images/6/64/HDPVR-Mount-10.JPG |
[17:08:16] | j-rod: | ah, its right there near your thumb in the first shot |
[17:08:34] | j-rod: | just under the 'hi' in Dolphin |
[17:08:34] | iamlindoro: | 18.432 |
[17:09:18] | j-rod: | indeed. perfect, thanks much! |
[17:09:22] | iamlindoro: | np |
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[17:40:00] | stuartm: | "I found a way to force my Philips lcd tv work at 50HZ" << where do people get these stupid ideas from? |
[17:55:43] | wagnerrp: | why would you have to force anything? what are you doing buying a TV that doesnt want to do 50Hz operation in a PAL country? |
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[18:20:47] | stuartm: | few TVs do 50Hz, but then they have image processing etc to adjust, forcing doesn't do anything good since it's not the native rate of the panel |
[18:22:18] | stuartm: | a heads-up, the udf stuff requires libcdio-dev(el) packages, we check in configure but there is no output indicating that libudf is recommended and it will quietly fall back to using mount/pmount |
[18:22:52] | stuartm: | superm1, tgm4883, j-rod, stuarta ^^ |
[18:23:21] | mrand: | Thanks stuartm. I was about to forward that to them |
[18:23:39] | stuartm: | stuarta: sorry, you got caught up in the sweep there, trying to remember who is responsible for the packaging on various platforms/distros |
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[18:24:54] | j-rod: | stuartm: danke |
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[18:28:05] | stuartm: | I may modify configure to be more verbose on this since we're going to want most people to be using libudf |
[18:32:27] | stuartm: | the mount/statistical approach is unreliable, although unless my tests are flawed, it seems faster which isn't good |
[18:34:47] | stuartm: | ah, no, the delays are elsewhere in the code |
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[19:47:56] | Beirdo: | okolsi: good to hear. |
[19:51:07] | Beirdo: | OMG, Lawrence is a busy beaver :) |
[19:52:34] | iamlindoro: | stuartm: #9520 would be another nice one to get committed-- Could use a similar approach to let the mediamonitor inject removable content into mythvideo once the local settings go away |
[19:53:03] | iamlindoro: | ie permanent content we enforce as a member of a storage group, but still allow for plugging in a USB drive, flash disk, camera, etc. |
[19:53:13] | hashbang: | evening all |
[19:54:36] | iamlindoro: | #9519 would be nice too, of course |
[19:59:40] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: I'll try to look at them all as time permits |
[20:00:12] | iamlindoro: | yeah, no pressure |
[20:00:12] | stuartm: | I committed the udf one now since it should improve dvd/bd detection and that's directly related to the stuff I just added |
[20:00:19] | iamlindoro: | or we just get Lawrence to commit them |
[20:00:22] | iamlindoro: | ;) |
[20:00:23] | stuartm: | plus it was tiny and contained |
[20:00:27] | iamlindoro: | Mark was going to talk to him |
[20:01:02] | Beirdo: | yeah. we should likely give them a once-over where they hit "our" code of course, but I'm all for that :) |
[20:01:19] | iamlindoro: | yeah, I think setting a limitation that he confer with maintainers is reasonable |
[20:01:23] | iamlindoro: | (as we would all do the same) |
[20:01:39] | iamlindoro: | So more or less, ask that he respect the same approach we would all use |
[20:01:44] | iamlindoro: | Which works for me |
[20:01:45] | Beirdo: | agreed. We sometimes do play a bit too loose on that account. |
[20:02:13] | Beirdo: | (myself included, of course) |
[20:03:06] | stuartm: | something in one of those patches caught my eye, I was going to look at it more carefully, since I've taken interest in the media monitor it would be good to make sure we're on the same page |
[20:03:17] | Beirdo: | oh, that reminds me... it sounds like almost time to rip out the UPnP video scanner, no? |
[20:04:55] | Beirdo: | on the gallery side, I've assumed some ownership of that code, but if you wanna muck around with it, feel free, especially for the borked media detection part :) |
[20:05:02] | iamlindoro: | I think it needs to wait until the video scanner doesn't just dump any record it can't find |
[20:05:07] | Beirdo: | K |
[20:05:17] | Beirdo: | we are getting closer though, I guess |
[20:05:22] | iamlindoro: | The idea is to get to a point where a video is marked as missing, and require user intervention to actually remove it |
[20:05:39] | Beirdo: | ah, that would certainly make fewer people miffed |
[20:05:44] | iamlindoro: | as if we run it periodically in the BE now and a drive goes offline or something, someone could come back to MythVideo and get pretty pissed |
[20:05:57] | Beirdo: | gotcha |
[20:06:09] | iamlindoro: | That said, you COULD just remove the scan entirely |
[20:06:14] | iamlindoro: | and use videometadata |
[20:06:22] | Beirdo: | I think that was the first step |
[20:06:25] | iamlindoro: | and just require that people scan in mythvideo to add new content in the short term |
[20:06:33] | stuartm: | I am thinking that parts of the media monitor, especially the way it communicates with plugins needs a re-write, I dislike the callback and handler stuff, it's too heavy-handed and clumsy |
[20:06:34] | Beirdo: | right. |
[20:07:23] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo: That way at least they know what they're getting in to, and we can say, "well hey buddy, you scanned." |
[20:07:28] | Beirdo: | OK, I'll try to take a look at ripping out the upnp scanner soon, using videometadata should work well |
[20:07:40] | Beirdo: | heh, true |
[20:08:27] | Beirdo: | stuartm: yeah, it's likely do for an overhaul |
[20:08:32] | Beirdo: | due rather |
[20:08:40] | Beirdo: | OMG, I'm turning illiterate |
[20:10:12] | stuartm: | nah, you're just developing the degenerative disease that I suffer from where your fingers type something different to what you're thinking ;) |
[20:10:21] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[20:10:28] | Beirdo: | Well, lunch time for me. |
[20:12:41] | hashbang: | I'm just using megaupload to host a short (80MB!) sample that hopefully demonstrates http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5943 |
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[20:17:24] | hashbang: | arrgh! |
[20:17:37] | hashbang: | maybe not... |
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[22:32:56] | j-rod: | wagnerrp: want: http://www.kwikwai.com/store.php |
[22:33:19] | j-rod: | much more complete looking than that other one |
[22:33:24] | j-rod: | though also $$$ |
[22:38:55] | j-rod is now known as j-rod|afk | |
[22:50:24] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: it might just be talk, but I still want to get rid of mythwelcome, the functionality could exist within the frontend |
[23:01:06] | sphery: | stuartm: nice on the backend selection screen... does this mean we have a real mythui-capable UI by the time we do the DB upgrade (meaning we could put a please wait dialog in there or something)? |
[23:02:01] | stuartm: | sphery: yeah, should be possible |
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[23:04:37] | sphery: | nice--something we've been sorely lacking for a while, now |
[23:04:55] | sphery: | (mainly because I was clueless on how to get it to the point it was possible) |
[23:06:11] | stuartm: | it's been possible since I ported the language/locale selection screen, I made it possible to use mythui in a temporary window before we had db access |
[23:13:17] | stuartm: | sphery: I've added it to the list |
[23:14:44] | sphery: | stuartm: Wow, thanks... I wasn't trying to get you to take that task--was more just verifying it might be within my abilities to hack one up. |
[23:18:49] | stuartm: | it's nothing difficult, but working without a database means there are a couple of differences to normal frontend screens – you have to use the aforementioned temporary window, you're limited to the default theme and you need to create an event loop |
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[23:59:56] | stuartm: | sphery: if you decide that you want to give it a go I'll be more than happy to lend assistance |
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