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| [00:00:33] | stuartm: | markk: I was able to reproduce the problem no matter what drive speed I chose, but I couldn't reproduce the problem with ffmpeg/Xv |
| [00:01:07] | stuartm: | VLC had no problems playing back the DVD on standard settings (no vdpau I'd guess) |
| [00:01:56] | stuartm: | it's not really obvious why the problem would be limited to vdpau unless we fill the vdpau buffers at a different rate |
| [00:05:01] | markk: | vdpau is going to change all sorts of timings around – hence might be exposing something |
| [00:06:24] | markk: | on a more positive note – bluray HDMV osd menus are up and running; just need to iron out a few issues |
| [00:07:12] | stuartm: | markk: I'll try to get some logs etc over the weekend, feel free to poke me if I forget |
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| [01:07:14] | GreyFoxx: | Mark: Nice! |
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| [01:23:08] | danielk22: | stuartm: I don't like to fix "i++" -> "++i" stuff unless there is really a difference in the code generated, i.e. never for integers. First, it mucks up the history (the wrong person gets the [git|svn] blame for that line.) Second, ++i just looks wrong to anyone with a "C" background where i++ used the fastest available increment operator while ++i always pre-incremented. |
| [01:23:18] | danielk22: | Third, any tool reporting that kind of stuff is likely to waste your time on trivia and create more bugs than it fixes. |
| [01:25:04] | danielk22: | stuartm: It's been years since I looked at the interlace detection code, I think we depend on ffmpeg reporting the right stuff. Most likely the DVD's are just badly encoded. I see many high-end DVD players having problems with DVD's these days due to poor mastering. |
| [01:26:36] | danielk22: | stuartm: I've considered just always setting the interlaced flag on low-res material, but then I figure that will just cause problems for properly mastered DVD's so I decide not to do it. At least you can set it in the menu now (as of 3–4 years ago). |
| [01:27:15] | danielk22: | Video->Video Scan->Interlaced |
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| [03:48:05] | markk: | anyone know if there are any possible undesirable side effects of renaming a key binding/registration? e.g. I'd like to rename the JUMPTODVDROOTMENU to something like JUMPTOOPTICALROOTMENU |
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| [05:55:10] | markk: | jya: can you see any reason not to remove the audio pausing in MythPlayer::SetBuffering ? (i.e. is it safe to leave the audio alone). I've been running 2 boxes here for a few days without the pause and it seems to help |
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| [09:57:23] | stuartm: | danielk22: I don't think any of the DVDs I've tried are properly detected |
| [10:13:10] | markk: | stuartm: I think I've maybe seen one or two dvd's in recent times that weren't detected properly (i.e. obvious interlacing artefacts) – but we're entirely reliant on the ffmpeg frame flags being set – and ffmpeg is presumably entirely reliant on the proper mastering |
| [10:18:16] | stuartm: | bugger |
| [10:20:14] | stuartm: | I don't really see manually setting the scan type as a user-friendly solution, I can't tell my parents that they need to go into this menu and select this option every time they watch a DVD |
| [10:20:34] | stuartm: | maybe we should be forcing it for video of a certain resolution and framerate |
| [10:24:09] | markk: | stuartm: seems odd to me – I would have thought there would be far more comments/bugs/rants etc if we were getting the detection wrong that often |
| [10:25:13] | stuartm: | it wasn't always the case, it used to work |
| [10:25:29] | stuartm: | which I guess is an important fact that I failed to mention |
| [10:27:11] | stuartm: | balls back in my court anyway, I'll spend some time looking at it and see if I can't come up with a solution which works for everyone |
| [10:27:34] | markk: | not those 'special edition' bangkok market versions, are they? :) |
| [10:28:09] | stuartm: | heh, no |
| [10:28:51] | stuartm: | the one I was having problems with last night was the entire series boxset for The West Wing |
| [10:29:43] | markk: | stuartm: just plugged in a brand new disc (UK version – I have a lot of ntsc stuff now) and it gets the detection bang on |
| [10:29:50] | markk: | which west wing series? |
| [10:30:35] | stuartm: | markk: Series 1, but the boxset includes all 7 (or how ever many there were) |
| [10:31:24] | markk: | stuartm: I have 6 and 7 here (again UK editions) – but the mastering could be different for the full box set |
| [10:31:55] | stuartm: | btw, menu frame interlacing has been broken/dodgy for a longer time, I didn't notice if that was still the case with current trunk |
| [10:33:45] | stuartm: | like I said, I spend some time on it, try to quantify just how many of my discs have the issue and whether there is anything different in the ffmpeg output |
| [10:34:32] | stuartm: | if no-one else can reproduce then my hopes of a quick fix are gone |
| [10:36:59] | markk: | stuartm: I think I put in a fix for non still menus before 0.24. still frame menus are automatically set to progressive. MythDVDPlayer::DisplayPauseFrame |
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| [14:13:34] | stuartm: | ugh, mythmusic is writing filenames using Latin1/Ascii |
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| [15:04:09] | danielk22: | markk: I can confirm almost all of those tv_play timers are simply a mechanism to change which thread something gets executed in. |
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| [15:16:04] | danielk22: | stuartm: I'm on the mythtv-rec branch, but even this terribly mastered potty video is detected properly as being interlaced.. |
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| [15:35:33] | jya: | markk: I didn't put that audio pausing there... It's one of those things that I saw there , didn't know why and left it in place thinking that there was a reason it was there |
| [15:35:49] | jya: | it seems to cause more issue anyway, leading to buffer underruns |
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| [16:05:26] | danielk22: | jya: markk: I believe the audio pausing code was originally intended to prevent bleeps when channel flipping in LiveTV mode with analog frame grabber input. It predates my involvement in the project. |
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| [18:52:53] | sphery: | stuartm: A non-exhaustive google search seems to indicate that early-seasons of West Wing (and many other shows like Doctor Who, Babylon 5, Stargate SG-1, ...) had mastering issues that resulted in improper interlace flagging. Granted, that's only anecdotal evidence, but it seems that a large number of people mentioned that specific series. |
| [18:53:38] | sphery: | markk: as long as we do a DB update, it shouldn't be a problem to rename JUMPTODVDROOTMENU to JUMPTOOPTICALROOTMENU |
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| [20:32:08] | clever: | sphery: ive got all 10 seasons of SG-1, i could check the disks if you wanted |
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