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| [00:38:52] | iamlindoro: | mrand, tgm4883, did you guys just get a backtrace/ticket of a playback crash? User opened a bug with us and thought he we would magically get his backtrace by following the Ubuntu debugging steps in our wiki (which were Mythbuntu team provided) |
| [00:39:09] | iamlindoro: | I daresay his assuming that we would get it based on those instructions is reasonable |
| [00:39:43] | iamlindoro: | If you got such a BT and could make it public/visible, that would help, but I think the Mythbuntu debugging instructions could use some attention to make it clear what you expect people to do after they submit an apport backtrace |
| [00:39:49] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging |
| [00:40:06] | iamlindoro: | (If I knew the right answer I would amend them myself) |
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| [01:04:52] | mrand: | iamlindoro: checking |
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| [01:13:27] | mrand: | iamlindoro: I've looked around and don't see anything... the most recent is actually mine from last week on the SEG fault when entering live tv. Generally I forward valid-ish looking crashes to you guys, so perhaps the wiki isn't completely wrong – but it is obviously not an automated process. Hmm... Looks like he said it didn't create the bug report for some reason. But looks like he managed to attach a back trace. |
| [01:13:46] | iamlindoro: | That's not a backtrace |
| [01:13:50] | iamlindoro: | that's a pile of mush |
| [01:14:12] | iamlindoro: | We need real backtraces, not just some terminal output with no informational value |
| [01:14:28] | iamlindoro: | Unless he's added something new... |
| [01:15:02] | iamlindoro: | Yep, looks like he has... and doesn't seem like a myth issue |
| [01:15:24] | mrand: | iamlindoro: just for my education, what indicates that to you? |
| [01:15:37] | iamlindoro: | "that"? |
| [01:16:06] | mrand: | that it isn't likely a myth issue. It will help me filter stuff if I understand more. |
| [01:16:07] | iamlindoro: | What he called a "backtrace" was the .crash file, which isn't a real BT |
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| [01:16:19] | mrand: | I'm referring to the gdb.txt |
| [01:17:16] | iamlindoro: | Well, I need to see what he did here-- this is a SIGABRT, not a SIGSEGV... so it seems like maybe *he* killed this and didn't wait for it to crash |
| [01:18:22] | iamlindoro: | sigh, back to him for more information |
| [01:18:43] | mrand: | ah. Yeah, maybe he didn't understand that gdb has to either be running during the actual crash (or in the case of a hang, attached to the running process) |
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| [06:17:10] | superm1: | from a user's perspective – if they've followed the steps on that wiki, it should be automated to the extent that a bug will get filed in launchpad to be forwarded to the mythtv bug tracker after being verified by one of us to have the right stuff |
| [06:17:32] | superm1: | so if somehow a bug wasn't filed, then they skipped a step |
| [06:17:38] | superm1: | or cut a corner |
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| [06:36:18] | xris: | skd5aner: ping |
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| [11:19:51] | stuartm: | that sigabrt/mutex related issue is a duplicate, I just can't find/remember which ticket |
| [12:11:40] | markk: | stuartm: fyi – the chances of me getting time to look at that BBC HD leak in the next few weeks/months are small |
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| [12:43:44] | stuartm: | markk: fair enough |
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| [13:04:19] | Stevezau: | I cant seem to find the audio passthrough option using 0.24.. any ideas where it is?? |
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| [14:00:09] | jamesba: | hi, does anyone here know how the "sysroot" feature for the mythplugins compilation is supposed to work? |
| [14:01:11] | jamesba: | I install mythtv into a nonstandard directory so that I can compile it on one machine and then tarball it up for transport to another machine |
| [14:02:19] | jamesba: | mythplugins' configure script has an option for setting a "--sysroot" parameter for just this eventuality (I think), but it doesn't seen to correctly set the SYSROOT variable in mythconfig.mak |
| [14:02:51] | jannau: | jamesba: sysroot is for crosscompiling, use make INSTALL_ROOT=/tmp/mythtv/ install |
| [14:04:57] | jamesba: | jannau: yes, that's how I install it |
| [14:05:21] | jamesba: | but when making mythplugins I need to tell it where to look for the mythtv install |
| [14:05:27] | jamesba: | sysroot seems to do that |
| [14:07:10] | jamesba: | I can't set CFLAGS to manually set the search paths, either |
| [14:08:15] | jamesba: | jannau: any idea how I would do this? |
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| [15:07:02] | superm1: | jamesba, we hit the same problem on mythbuntu builds. they go back to back and would otherwise have the same problem. here's how we work around it: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythtv . . . talled.patch |
| [15:09:00] | jamesba: | superm1: thanks, that looks like it would fix my problems |
| [15:09:18] | superm1: | jannau, would you be open to adapting something similar like that upstream? |
| [15:13:05] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: further coverage http://www.reghardware.com/2011/01/13/bbc_tru . . . tion_review/ |
| [15:14:12] | stuartm: | not 100% relevant to us, but interesting all the same |
| [15:16:44] | stuartm: | the bit about quality being lower on the higher-bandwidth cable feed, vs the low bandwidth internet looks like a mistake on the 'reporters' part |
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| [17:05:40] | skd5aner: | xris: pong |
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| [21:55:49] | stuarta: | !seen GreyFoxx |
| [21:55:49] | MythLogBot: | GreyFoxx is here and has been idle for 6 days 7 hours 3 minutes 1 second |
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| [22:43:47] | xaxes: | hey folks.. I had kill my mythtv-folder.. now I have a database, that "thinks" there are many video-files, but there arent.. how can I told the database to "update" its entrys on the current situtation? |
| [22:43:51] | xaxes: | *situation |
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| [22:53:44] | sphery: | xaxes: /topic (you want #mythtv-users ) |
| [22:54:00] | xaxes: | args, sorry sphery ;) |
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| [23:32:31] | android6011: | does the xmltv standard define how long things like channel ids can be? if not how was that decided for the values in mythconverg? |
| [23:48:44] | sphery: | android6011: TTBOMK: When you say channel ID, I assume you mean callsign (as the chanid field is really an internal identifier that's only useful to MythTV). TTBOMK, xmltv provides a channel name, which we store in the name field, which is varchar(64). The callsign field is used by mythtv as a means of specifying which channels carry the same content. Therefore, its length is really irrelevant as it's only a "uniqueness identifier" that can ... |
| [23:48:51] | sphery: | ... contain any value (but since it's generally used by the UI as a "short name" for the channel, it was limited to 20 chars--previously 10, IIRC). mythfilldatabase and/or the channel scanner will in some situations try to use the channel name to create a callsign, but users are welcome to change them with the channel editor to any value as long as they maintain uniqueness where appropriate. |
| [23:48:57] | sphery: | heh, that was way longer than I realized |
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