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| [04:00:12] | dblain: | stuartm: regarding the xml response to getDeviceDesc... yes, it's part of the upnp standard, but it has provisions for vendor specific information. So I would add the additional information to it. Also, Beirdo is correct that the upnp spec is freely available online at upnp.org. |
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| [04:19:23] | dblain: | stuartm: I remember reading that we can add whatever we want to the device description as long as the entire message lenght is less then 20KB (including the http headers). Unfortunately, I can't seem to find where I saw it. |
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| [04:55:00] | Cru_: | Hey, wondered if someone could help me. I just added a hard drive to my mythtv box but now when it turns on it only goes to the "mythtvbox login" screen on the terminal and never enters the GUI of the OS or MythTV. I just am sitting at the terminal (I manually typed in a login and signed in, but still nothing) |
| [04:55:01] | Cru_: | I remember having a problem similar to that before....it had something to do with "X" background I think but don't remember |
| [05:03:40] | wagnerrp: | Cru_: wrong channel, see the topic |
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| [08:11:33] | dekarl1: | stuarta, stuartm: Another user story for xmltv+eit: I was considering how to add the EIT event ids to xmltv programs. That would in principle be useful to catch last minute program updates. |
| [08:11:33] | dekarl1: | (I've been looking at daily diffs of my xmltv data lately and it seemed like a nice idea to not have to run mfdb every 3 hours or so) But considering the generally bad quality of EIT I'm not sure it's even worth it. |
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| [12:48:27] | stuartm: | dblain: looking at the Device Architecture documents instead of the Control Protocols, it does indeed state that non-standard vendor extensions are allowed and that standard upnp devices must ignore anything they don't understand, so we should be good to include our own stuff :) |
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| [12:52:53] | stuartm: | it caveats that they should be a vendor specific namespace and element names must be pre-fixed by X_ (parallels with email headers there) |
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| [13:16:07] | stuartm: | as far as size, the message must fit into a single UDP packet because packet order is not guaranteed, the figure they quote is 512 bytes! |
| [13:16:40] | stuartm: | ah, no that's the discovery message, not the response |
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| [13:18:30] | stuartm: | well I can't information on a limit, but whatever it is we're no going to be adding that much to the device description |
| [13:21:16] | aardvark: | hello all – is anyone aware of any 'busy-wait' problems with mythfrontend? When I strace it it seems to be continually polling an fd and then returning Resource temporarily unavailable |
| [13:21:30] | aardvark: | (couldn't see anything in the bug tracker, but thought I'd check) |
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| [13:37:08] | stuartm: | aardvark: never heard of that issue |
| [13:37:33] | aardvark: | ok, will stick a bug in the tracker |
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| [14:38:13] | stuartm: | heh, the XBox 360 has a Mozilla user agent? |
| [14:41:02] | stuartm: | ah, so does IE, huh I should have remembered that |
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| [15:10:11] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: polling a fd and alphapulse have no correlation |
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| [15:11:53] | stuartm: | and how can I object to a bug being opened without being in posession of the facts |
| [15:12:18] | iamlindoro: | read too quickly |
| [15:12:20] | iamlindoro: | relax |
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| [15:24:33] | danielk22: | polling a file descriptor repeatedly sounds like an event loop to me. |
| [15:25:39] | danielk22: | You set the timeout to whenever you know need to be awake next, and then poll on the "wake me up for new events pipe" |
| [15:29:34] | danielk22: | http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-7618 |
| [15:29:38] | dekarl1: | wrt #9454 apply EIT Fixup fixHDTV to 2 TS. Is it preferred to have stuff marked HD when it is in reality just upscaled SD? (the stations in question simculast SD/HD) |
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| [15:34:26] | iamlindoro: | danielk22, TTBOMK That very Qt bug was revealed in our UI's use of alphapulse, no? So we switched to a custom timer for it and those did see it before stopped seeing it, and those who had never seen it started |
| [15:35:11] | iamlindoro: | sphery has more encyclopedic insight on this issue, maybe he can chime in, but that's how I recall it |
| [15:35:23] | danielk22: | iamlindoro: Any use of Qt Timers will cause CPU wastage. AFAIK it was also not fixed in 4.6 |
| [15:36:28] | iamlindoro: | Anyway, that's the stuff I was thinking of when I closed it as being caused by alphapulse, and assigned it to stuartm. So it seems it likely *is* alphapulse causing the issue |
| [15:36:30] | danielk22: | Our use of them in the UI was just a prominent case. I've seen this with other Qt apps like Konsole too. |
| [15:37:36] | danielk22: | I believe sphere was one of the people for whom our workaround made things worse... |
| [15:37:38] | stuartm: | dekarl: if the content is upscaled SD, then don't mark it as HD, unless you can't tell true HD from upscaled material |
| [15:37:50] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, I remembered seeing some other links/similar stories from KDE apps |
| [15:39:10] | dekarl: | stuartm: shall I add that hint to the ticket? (not mine) |
| [15:40:56] | stuartm: | dekarl: please |
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| [15:48:06] | stuartm: | iamlindoro, danielk22: if that ticket does prove to be for the alphapulse/QT issue then it can be closed, but until we're certain that it's not an unrelated bug it's best left open and we'll try to get more information from the user |
| [15:48:43] | stuartm: | it's easy to confirm that it's the alphapulse bug since it won't present with a different theme or with the QT painter |
| [15:57:01] | sphery: | danielk22: Yeah, that one and http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-6541 were basically the same and both closed invalid, and it's definitely not fixed in 4.6.x. I haven't tested 4.7.x for that, specifically, yet. I had an old system (with old glibc) that got worse with the workaround, but I upgraded distro/glibc and the workaround works fine for me, now. Haven't investigated farther to find out what, specifically, is causing the ... |
| [15:57:07] | sphery: | ... problem with our workaround (or QTimer). |
| [15:57:57] | sphery: | I'd say, if nothing else, we need the full strace logs on #9461, but we should probably get a real backtrace on it, too |
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| [16:02:08] | stuartm: | wasn't there a test we could apply to tell whether we're running in a QThread or not? HttpComms::getHttp() currently accepts an argument to call processEvents(), but this seems messy and could be determined automatically instead |
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| [17:00:33] | iamlindoro: | stuartm, I believe you could call QThread::currentThreadId and compare it to the main thread id? |
| [17:04:02] | stuartm: | might work |
| [17:05:11] | stuartm: | actually no, it won't, other threads may also be using an event loop, this code looks like it's supposed to work for all QT threads not just the main thread |
| [17:05:48] | stuartm: | I can probably use 'QThread::CurrentThread' and see whether that returns NULL |
| [17:12:27] | danielk22: | stuartm: That won't work, it can be a QThread but still not be running an event loop. |
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| [17:20:43] | stuartm: | ah well, I expect this code will eventually be written so it won't matter |
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| [19:20:14] | DrFredEdison: | hey folks, does anyone know if there are any prebuilt ht/mini pc's that have surround sound built in? |
| [19:20:22] | DrFredEdison: | oh oops |
| [19:20:37] | DrFredEdison: | guess I should go to the user channnel. Sorry |
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| [21:23:42] | android60: | when mythtvfilldatabase runs lets say with a file, does it update each guide listing WHERE chanid= x starttime = y type deal or does it just empty the table and fill it with new file contents? what is the process implemented? |
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