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Wednesday, December 22nd, 2010, 00:25 UTC
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[01:34:49] iamlindoro: Heh, so now we know why markk has been quiet for a few days ;)
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[01:38:53] markk: yeah – took me that long to write the commit:)
[01:39:36] iamlindoro: hah
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[01:43:58] Captain_Murdoch: markk, nice... :)
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[02:53:52] markk: Captain_Murdoch: Is the network control code yours?
[02:54:20] Captain_Murdoch: that depends on why you ask. :)
[02:54:35] Captain_Murdoch: yes, it's mine, but has had some enhancements over the years by user patches.
[02:55:01] markk: I just wanted to check whether a 'message' command actually makes sense in that context – and if so, what the format should be?
[02:55:59] Captain_Murdoch: yeah, I think it makes sense. some people have written long-standing processes that talk to the network control interface, so allowing them to send messages via there makes sense.
[02:57:15] Captain_Murdoch: I've thought of adding the ability to trigger system events from there as well.
[02:58:06] Captain_Murdoch: I can't think of anything better than just "message this is my message". it could be "send message this is my message" and maybe "send event localhost SYSTEM_EVENT_BLAH". do you have any ideas?
[02:59:00] Captain_Murdoch: right now none of the existing code handles items in quotes, we just split tokens on spaces. only issue so far with that is the new "play file" command and people trying to play files with spaces in the name or the storage group, but I think that may have been worked around recently in master.
[02:59:40] markk: I was thinking message this is my message – seems obvious enough – but wanted to check:)
[03:00:09] Captain_Murdoch: sounds fine to me. if I do implement system events, I can use "event blah" or "systemevent blah"
[03:18:38] iamlindoro: Captain_Murdoch, Heh, well the loadinbackground message setting works... sometimes... seems it's a crapshoot as to whether you'll get your message or a blank busy dialog
[03:26:47] Captain_Murdoch: are you calling LoadInBackground multiple times, or just once?
[03:27:11] iamlindoro: just once
[03:28:23] iamlindoro: definitely seems to be a timing issue
[03:28:40] iamlindoro: about 30% of the time it'll show up fine
[03:28:53] Captain_Murdoch: and you're calling this from Create()?
[03:28:57] iamlindoro: yes
[03:30:21] Captain_Murdoch: so Create() is in the UI thread, that means we call LoadInBackground() and OpenBusyPopup() in the UI thread, so there shouldn't be any races going on. I haven't seen anything like that in the screens I've converted to use LoadInBackground. :(
[03:30:58] Captain_Murdoch: and by blank, you just mean no text right? the rest of the busy dialog shows?
[03:31:04] iamlindoro: correct
[03:32:04] iamlindoro: shows and runs properly, just no message
[03:33:32] Captain_Murdoch: looks like it might be a bug in my previous patch to allow changing the message. edit libs/libmythui/mythprogressdialog.cpp and inside MythUIBusyDialog::MythUIBusyDialog(), add a line that says m_haveNewMessage = false;
[03:44:26] Captain_Murdoch: iamlindoro, did that fix it?
[03:44:34] iamlindoro: Captain_Murdoch, sorry, got distracted, testing now
[03:45:11] Captain_Murdoch: ok, thanks. probably luck of the draw that I didn't run into it in my testing in the theme chooser since the loading message there is so quick.
[03:45:18] iamlindoro: Captain_Murdoch, yes, that fixes it
[03:45:48] Captain_Murdoch: ok. thanks. I'll commit a fix unless you want to commit/push that one file so you don't get a merge conflict later.
[03:46:03] iamlindoro: I'll push it if you like
[03:46:14] Captain_Murdoch: sure, thanks.
[03:46:55] iamlindoro: done, thanks
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[10:47:53] stuartm: wagnerrp: I've obtained API keys for Akismet and Typepad Anti-Spam, so the trac anti-spam plugin should now be pretty much bullet-proof
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[11:20:08] stuartm: heh, the latest version of libaacs _still_ doesn't compile
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[15:30:13] iamlindoro: stuartm, I'm forced to comment out one line, I believe a gcc version issue
[15:30:31] iamlindoro: +// cfgfile = keydbcfg_find_config_file();
[15:30:34] iamlindoro: in aacs.c
[15:30:52] iamlindoro: Since we pass it a specific path, that function is unnecessary for us
[15:31:58] iamlindoro: but everything else works fine for me, up to and including last night's
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[15:57:32] ** Captain_Murdoch wonders why Udo can't be bothered to Google "retro-wide mythtv 0.24" and get the answer he's looking for in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th results. **
[15:57:56] Captain_Murdoch: must be a lot easier to click 'Reply' in his email client. :)
[15:59:05] iamlindoro: It's always easier to make other people do the leg work for you
[15:59:17] iamlindoro: It's why I have sphery
[15:59:29] stuartm: iamlindoro: I got it working eventually, it was trying to build with byacc instead of bison on my system, but my copy of byacc was missing some compatibility support – no idea why
[16:00:51] iamlindoro: stuartm: Ah, weird. Well, glad you got it sorted out
[16:01:03] Captain_Murdoch: iamlindoro, sphery v2.0 will allow us to just type "sphery retro-wide mythtv 0.24" instead of having to write out a full question.
[16:01:26] iamlindoro: That'll be much more convenient that basic human interaction
[16:01:30] iamlindoro: a real step forward
[16:01:34] stuartm: iamlindoro: I've not actually tried it with mythtv yet, the old version I had used to work though
[16:01:52] iamlindoro: stuartm: Yeah, API hasn't changed (and really, neither has much else) so it ought to be fine
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[16:04:53] ** elmojo wonders why someone hasn't nominated any windows contributor for dev access yet... it's a big whole we have **
[16:05:08] stuartm: wagnerrp: just in time it seems, unless I'm very much mistaken that 'test ticket' was a spammer trying to find out why their tickets aren't making it through – if they bother to start filling out the email field then we've lost that countermeasure
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[16:06:25] stuartm: the akismet and typepad systems seem to work very well and the bayes is catching onto the new format too
[16:08:16] iamlindoro: nice
[16:26:37] Captain_Murdoch: elmojo, it's been talked about, but not discussed in-depth. I think there is some support for it though. feel free to bring up the subject again now that the git flood of emails has subsided.
[16:27:01] iamlindoro: Lawrence Rust has been doing good work
[16:27:18] iamlindoro: Jeff Lu has disappeared a bit but was/has done some good work
[16:27:38] iamlindoro: I do think we should replace the windows build script with Lawrence's. It's better in every imaginable way
[16:27:51] iamlindoro: not least of which is that it cross compiles from Linux, too
[16:28:03] Captain_Murdoch: seems like it from what I've heard. cross-compile peaked my interest.
[16:28:06] iamlindoro: Allowing people without Windows to test that their changes aren't breaking Windows
[16:28:25] iamlindoro: I had good success with it, and it's faster to boot
[16:28:36] Captain_Murdoch: I've debated switching my daughter's frontend to Windows full-time so she can play her games without having to dualboot.
[16:28:41] iamlindoro: And by "to boot" I mean "as well" :)
[16:31:57] Captain_Murdoch: does that script still build Qt or is it using a pre-built version now?
[16:32:21] iamlindoro: It builds it, but using fairly expedient options
[16:32:38] iamlindoro: Addresses another deficiency with the current windows builds-- can't get a real BT
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[16:50:11] elmojo: Captain_Murdoch: just thought I'd bring it up since it's early in the dev cycle for the next release... I can't nominate since I don't have any knowledge in those areas
[16:51:38] elmojo: it just seemed like some people were doing some really nice work out there
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[17:14:42] stuartm: did anything come of that dodgy 'MythTV' android app report?
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[17:31:17] Captain_Murdoch: stuartm, haven't heard anything mentioned again about it.
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[18:04:34] gkffjcs_: Hey all, out of curiosity has anyone attempted to compile a stand alone mythtv independent version of mythcommflag? And if one were to try, how complex would it be, how dependent on libmyth, and other myth parts is the app currently?
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[18:09:34] iamlindoro: Very dependent on the rest of the myth libs
[18:09:40] Captain_Murdoch: gkffjcs_, off-topic for this channel anyway.
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[18:50:03] sphery: Seems like we're up to getting the "mythcommflag without mythtv" question once every 2 months. Maybe I should add a link to http://www.kaashoek.com/comskip/ on the mythcommflag wiki page.
[18:50:20] kormoc: 2nded
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[20:52:05] stuartm: has anyone tried running a frontend under Wayland? With so many X11 specific hooks in our code I'm curious how well it would work
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[21:19:07] sphery: stuartm: for that matter, it will be interesting to find out how well Qt itself supports Wayland (and whether Nokia will pick up the Wayland version)--considering Wayland project is having to reimplement Qt rendering
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[21:33:45] stuartm: hmm
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