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| [00:11:39] | iamlindoro: | Does anyone see any potential issues with playgroup.cpp/h being moved to libmyth, from libmythtv? It doesn't appear to have any code included from libmythtv and moving it there would allow me to use the playback group code to make remote control of the flash player behave as recordings do |
| [00:13:39] | stuartm: | you can't link libmythtv from mythnetvision? |
| [00:13:50] | iamlindoro: | nope, none of the headers get installed |
| [00:14:09] | iamlindoro: | I think that the historical idea is that plugins never access anything from libmythtv |
| [00:14:12] | stuartm: | well that can easily be changed, we're trying to move stuff out of libmyth atm, not into it |
| [00:14:31] | stuartm: | and fwiw I have changes pending for playgroup.cpp/h (unfinished atm) |
| [00:15:04] | iamlindoro: | I'm not really modifying it at all, mostly just using the getsetting stuff to pull the configured seek amounts |
| [00:15:15] | iamlindoro: | (and using the Default group by er... default.. to keep it simple) |
| [00:15:17] | stuartm: | I don't see any reason why plugins can't access libmythtv I just think none of them have needed to in the past |
| [00:17:41] | iamlindoro: | Alternately I could just duplicate the getsetting code to pull the seek amounts, it just felt cleaner to use playgroup |
| [00:19:01] | stuartm: | I think linking libmythtv is perfectly acceptable for a plugin and it makes complete sense given that the long term goal is to get rid of libmyth, |
| [00:19:36] | stuartm: | the playgroup stuff relates to 'tv' and should therefore be in libmythtv |
| [00:20:31] | iamlindoro: | Understood |
| [00:21:46] | stuartm: | fwiw, libmythtv might end up being split up at some point, I'm not sure how exactly but it's a little bloated |
| [00:22:21] | stuartm: | maybe either along the playback/recording line |
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| [00:22:50] | stuartm: | not really my decision and not likely to happen any time soon |
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| [08:55:24] | jya: | I've noticed that in the audio settings, 7.1 shows up as <?(crap)7.1? |
| [08:55:42] | jya: | probably the translation file that is incorrect.. where can I find it ? |
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| [10:09:39] | markk_: | anyone awake who's still seeing the sluggish keypress/response issue during playback? |
| [10:10:10] | danielk22: | markk_: As of what revision, I'm seeing it, but I'm a couple weeks behind.. |
| [10:13:43] | markk_: | danielk22: just the person:) shouldn't really matter which revision. I have a patch that removes the extra tv thread from the TV class – which I think may be at least part of the issue – and I wanted to run it past you as well. So 2 birds, 1 stone! Give me a minute and I'll post a link. |
| [10:15:05] | danielk22: | k, i can't test it right now but i'll test it in the next couple days. |
| [10:20:20] | markk_: | danielk22: no problem – whenever you get a chance. http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/2012716 – there's also an extra 'speedup' in there for handling keypresses – just need to change the if (0). Can you see any obvious problems with the patch? seems to work pretty well here. |
| [10:21:23] | markk_: | I don't know whether the keypress queue is an artefact of the old thread setup or is in there to add a little rate limiting for keypresses. |
| [10:23:03] | danielk22: | Just calling HandleStateChange() after ForceNextStateNone() may not work, there could be multiple state changes queued up (AFAIK only on error). |
| [10:24:53] | danielk22: | heh, that was in the old code :) |
| [10:29:07] | markk_: | danielk22: I don't think that chunk is necessary following the patch (I need to properly handle when the playercontext is errored) |
| [10:29:15] | danielk22: | Moving the DB loading from the TVInitRunnable thread to the TV ctor thread will probably slow down playback startup, but that's not related to the keypress queue AFAIK. |
| [10:30:43] | danielk22: | I don't recall why the keypress queue was necessary. It's very possible it isn't anymore, but someone on mythtv-dev may remember why it was there in the first place. |
| [10:31:34] | danielk22: | My first guess would be that it had to do with making sure keys were handled in the correct thread. |
| [10:32:19] | ** stuarta would ask sphery, he remembers everything ** | |
| [10:33:37] | danielk22: | k, i'm heading to bed.. 5:30 am here... i'll read the log later |
| [10:34:09] | markk_: | it may be entirely subjective, but playback startup seems much faster with the patch applied – as does exiting |
| [11:44:55] | stuartm: | more in-line comments would help with some of these scenarios |
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| [12:02:16] | stuartm: | Beirdo: I can we can afford to squash the "Merge branch 'master' of github.com:MythTV/mythtv" commit messages in the email hook? |
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| [12:21:29] | jya: | ohhhh.... DTS-HD MA passthrough works !!! |
| [12:21:38] | jya: | for about .5s but it's getting there |
| [12:28:31] | knightr: | jya for the 7.1 problem, which language and where? |
| [12:28:50] | jya: | english |
| [12:28:58] | jya: | in the audio general settings |
| [12:29:04] | jya: | Stereo, 5.1 okay |
| [12:29:09] | jya: | 7.1 is garbage |
| [12:30:10] | knightr: | US English? What is supposed to be the complete string, only 7.1? |
| [12:31:00] | knightr: | (I see crap something weird in en_GB but not in en_US as far as I can telll...) |
| [12:31:14] | knightr: | remove crap... |
| [12:32:34] | knightr: | and what I see is present in three language file, en_GB, pt and fr... |
| [12:36:17] | knightr: | jya ^ |
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| [12:46:46] | knightr: | jya is it for en_GB, if it is I see the problem and as soon as my git setup is completed I'll fix it... |
| [12:46:59] | jya: | probably en_GB |
| [12:47:08] | jya: | not something I've ever configured, but i'm in Oz.. |
| [12:47:14] | knightr: | you see 0% (7.1)? |
| [12:47:20] | jya: | and we speak proper English too here |
| [12:47:22] | jya: | that's right |
| [12:47:55] | knightr: | jya, I see that crap in three translation file (not always the same), I'll complete my git setup tonight and fix them... |
| [12:48:09] | knightr: | jya, thank for the heads up... |
| [12:48:23] | jya: | well, I only ever saw 7.1 yesterday :) |
| [12:48:31] | jya: | none of my setup supported it before |
| [12:48:43] | jya: | and last I try was before the translation were done |
| [12:49:02] | knightr: | ah, ok... I guess that's why nobody noticed... |
| [12:49:05] | knightr: | thanks! |
| [12:49:38] | jya: | no-one use 7.1 :( |
| [12:49:48] | jya: | though you couldn't even select it in the configuration :) |
| [12:50:43] | knightr: | :) |
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| [14:28:25] | j-rod: | iamlindoro: well this is fail. Now when I try to click on a game in the espn3 list (replay of liverpool v. aston villa from yesterday), all I get is a popup that says "Get Remote Access to ESPN3" with a close widget and nothing more. |
| [14:28:37] | j-rod: | under multiple operating systems. |
| [14:28:40] | j-rod: | this used to work. |
| [14:28:43] | j-rod: | ffs. |
| [14:39:39] | j-rod: | now the FAQ says "log into your Verizon Surround account anytime for access", used to be you'd get a login popup. |
| [14:40:12] | j-rod: | however, even after logging in, I still get nothing when I try to watch stuff. dammit. pretty sure this is the first I've tried since the big xbox 360 support rollout |
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| [14:41:59] | j-rod: | iamlindoro: note: their FAQ still says "Adobe Flash Player 10" in the system requirements... |
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| [17:40:55] | skd5aner: | for the SHA1 git commit, how many places is unique? |
| [17:40:57] | skd5aner: | 7? |
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| [17:45:19] | stuartm: | seems more places use 6 |
| [17:46:00] | stuartm: | no sorry, that should be 7 |
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| [18:13:54] | skd5aner: | someone needs to update the top of this page I would think – http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ |
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| [18:38:52] | Beirdo: | stuartm: not really. There will be times when those aren't no-ops. And they are not easy do differentiate from others |
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| [18:49:54] | xris: | skd5aner: technically, the whole thing is the only unique string. but generally 7–8 is enough.. though when pasting them I just randomly select a few from the beginning. counting a specific number of characters is too much work |
| [18:52:29] | skd5aner: | heh – np, just trying to understand how the abbreviation works :) |
| [18:52:32] | skd5aner: | thx |
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| [19:05:34] | xris: | yeah, it's officially defined as something like the minimum length required to show uniqueness, which only the individual repository knows. |
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| [19:09:50] | MrGandalf: | did the commfree flag get renamed in mythconverg to something else or was it phased out? |
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| [19:15:18] | Beirdo: | I intend to increase to 8 or 9 chars on the emails and in the version string so we risk fewer collisions (based on the number of commits we have) |
| [19:21:52] | sphery: | MrGandalf: it got moved to commmethod about 3 years ago |
| [19:22:25] | MrGandalf: | sphery: thanks |
| [19:23:09] | MrGandalf: | sphery: so, channel.commmethod = 0 is now commfree = 1? |
| [19:24:29] | sphery: | no, see libs/libmythtv/channelsettings.cpp CommMethod |
| [19:24:35] | sphery: | -2, IIRC |
| [19:24:41] | MrGandalf: | thanks |
| [19:25:51] | MrGandalf: | yes: libs/libmyth/programtypes.h: COMM_DETECT_COMMFREE = -2, |
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| [20:04:12] | natanojl: | iamlindoro, paul-h: new patches added |
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| [20:04:34] | iamlindoro: | natanojl: Great, thanks-- think the rest falls to me... I am hoping to have a bit of time to check them out tonight |
| [20:06:56] | natanojl: | iamlindoro: great |
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| [21:00:58] | stuartm: | Jonatan's surname is also Martens? |
| [21:02:01] | natanojl: | heh, no, it's actually Lindblad |
| [21:03:17] | iamlindoro: | well whatever |
| [21:03:28] | iamlindoro: | Someone is thanked for something |
| [21:03:33] | iamlindoro: | mumble mumble |
| [21:03:57] | stuartm: | :) |
| [21:04:07] | skd5aner: | natanojl: I'll throw in a thank you :) |
| [21:04:42] | natanojl: | skd5aner: you're welcome :) |
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| [21:09:39] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: this change to methodheap.py, did jonathan have some code that used that? |
| [21:09:55] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Yes, it's used |
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| [21:10:25] | iamlindoro: | Sorry, guess I should have thought to get your OK, it seemed very trivial |
| [21:10:58] | iamlindoro: | (I do apologize, though) |
| [21:10:59] | wagnerrp: | thats fine, im just wondering if its a method better suited in the individual content class |
| [21:11:06] | wagnerrp: | no need to |
| [21:11:50] | iamlindoro: | I'll leave it in your hands-- it's your code so please feel free to do what you think right |
| [21:12:07] | wagnerrp: | well if it werent used, i would move it right now |
| [21:12:15] | wagnerrp: | if it is actively being used... ill have to see what makes more sense |
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| [21:34:50] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: ive got an idea of where it would be better suited, but ive got to run it past RDV |
| [21:39:32] | wagnerrp: | specifically, im thinking such capability be some service that nv_python_libs provides, but im not sure if its built in such a manner to allow that easily |
| [21:41:35] | stuartm: | so I'm not sure how I missed this before, but on github – "Fork Queue" ... seriously? they went with that? |
| [21:41:49] | wagnerrp: | yep... :) |
| [21:42:07] | wagnerrp: | i *hope* that was intentional |
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| [22:30:27] | gigem_: | do any of you git experts have any experience with git-new-workdir? it looks like just the thing to let me work the way i'd like to with git on mythtv. i suspect it might be what stuartm wants too. |
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| [22:32:46] | stuartm: | now that looks interesting |
| [22:33:18] | stuartm: | might even be what kormoc was looking for |
| [22:37:21] | gigem_: | yeah, i'm used to working with each branch in its own directory. this allows that and since nearly all of .git is shared you don't have to remember to push/pull between them. |
| [22:38:19] | stuartm: | gigem_: thanks for that, I'll try it out tomorrow |
| [22:38:46] | gigem_: | stuartm: let me know how it works. i'm going to dabble with it myself. |
| [22:39:38] | gigem_: | stuartm: s/works/works for you/ |
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| [22:44:19] | stuartm: | paul-h: there are just two uses of the old MythPasswordDialog, one is in mytharchive, is this on your radar? |
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| [22:53:37] | stuartm: | I appreciate that it's not a straight swap, the other example is in tv.cpp, used by the 'jump to programme' feature in the OSD, it's currently broken and it would be much easier to remove that feature entirely – I've never really seen the point of it |
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| [22:58:29] | paul-h: | stuartm: the one in MythArchive is for the parental level access to MythVideo's files. I'm tempted to just rip that out and see if anyone complains :) |
| [23:00:58] | paul-h: | I seem to remember looking to see if there was anything in MythVideo I could reuse but got lost in a maze of classes and gave up |
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| [23:02:04] | jannau: | does anyone know who ma_xi_mao@163.com is? |
| [23:03:11] | stuartm: | maybe it makes a certain amount of sense for mytharchive to be a plugin to mythvideo/recordings rather than implementing it's own video/recording browser, it could just re-use the existing browsers somehow |
| [23:04:12] | stuartm: | anyway ripping it out works for me, porting some of this older code to work with non-blocking dialogs is a pain, worth it ultimately but only if someone cares enough about keeping the features |
| [23:04:21] | iamlindoro: | paul-h, Heh, I often feel the same way about it-- and MythVideo parental level stuff isn't exactly intuitive to *use* either... I've often thought about just redoing it |
| [23:04:40] | jannau: | that's the developer of an android app called "MythTV" |
| [23:04:53] | iamlindoro: | (ie, maybe it'd be easy to overlook how confusing it is maintenancewise if it were simple/nice to use... but it's not) |
| [23:05:18] | stuartm: | the "Jump to Programme" stuff just duplicates the watch recordings screen, but with none of the functionality or information that watch recordings provides |
| [23:05:59] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: I'd just hook the parental level stuff into the multi-user system, drop the existing stuff almost entirely |
| [23:06:45] | iamlindoro: | yeah, taht would be a sensible way to go |
| [23:07:49] | jannau: | the app seems to crappy according to the comments. it's described as mythtv remote control app but it seems to just crash |
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| [23:08:12] | stuartm: | with multi-user there will be user groups instead, so instead of parental levels you just assign video viewing privs to different groups |
| [23:08:48] | iamlindoro: | stuartm, Yeah, though hopefully in some intuitive way... don't want managing videos to require a masters degree in Active Directory ;) |
| [23:09:22] | jannau: | I suspect that it might be used to steal personal data before it crashes |
| [23:10:12] | iamlindoro: | jannau, Minimally we could request a takedown based on violation of the MythTV name/brand |
| [23:10:16] | stuartm: | jannau: we can and should enforce our right to the name in that case, if you don't get immediate satisfaction from that dev then we can start a formal procedure |
| [23:10:18] | iamlindoro: | (/me is serious about that) |
| [23:10:39] | jannau: | of course |
| [23:12:05] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: well the groups will be easily queried, so I expect the UI to just substitute the list of 'levels' for one of 'groups' |
| [23:13:47] | stuartm: | and automatic assignment wouldn't be any different technically, a configuration screen would allow you to say ratings "U-PG" are assigned to the group "Children", "12–15" > "Teenagers", "18-X" > "Adults" |
| [23:13:52] | jannau: | I already used the "flag as inappropiate" in the market and complained over the name and and the data stealing suspicion |
| [23:14:02] | stuartm: | obviously those are example group names ;) |
| [23:14:56] | stuartm: | and UK ratings |
| [23:15:37] | iamlindoro: | stuartm, Yeah, I wrote the "automatic parental leveling" stuff in the first place, but the further I go, the more I realize how it's definitely not the best solution |
| [23:16:04] | iamlindoro: | stuartm, I was thinking to come up with some sort of solution that it "sensible by default" and perhaps defined in the locale files |
| [23:16:08] | iamlindoro: | er that is |
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| [23:19:23] | stuartm: | it's worth a thought, although I reckon everyone is going to have their own idea of how videos are grouped e.g. some questionable parenting might mean that little Johnny is allowed to watch those slasher horror flix |
| [23:20:09] | iamlindoro: | If so, they could simply provide johnny with access to parental level 4/whatever, no? |
| [23:20:24] | iamlindoro: | (or reclassify the parental level down once it was auto-set) |
| [23:21:08] | iamlindoro: | As it stands it's an entire settings screen for what could reasonably be automated without any settings-- it would just mean that the more you disagreed with your local rating system, the more you might want to manually re-edit them |
| [23:21:20] | markk_: | stuartm: would you like me to remove the mythpassworddialog from TV? |
| [23:23:36] | stuartm: | markk_: I'll take you up on that offer, it's not really where I want to spend my time atm, I'd sooner be working on that image cache stuff :) |
| [23:26:13] | markk_: | cool – consider it donw |
| [23:29:55] | stuartm: | great thanks |
| [23:30:35] | stuartm: | we're very slowly edging towards the point where everything (except settings) have been ported to mythui |
| [23:32:27] | iamlindoro: | paul-h, (and other UK folk), think I see how to convert the iplayer grabber to allow remote use as well |
| [23:33:13] | markk_: | danielk22: fwiw – I did a little playing around with mythfrontend last night with the keypress queue removed and straight keyboard input. the rate limiting is definitely beneficial – without it we miss screen updates and some repeat actions can be processed way too fast (it effectively locks up the frontend) |
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| [23:36:22] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: the concern over defaults really amounts to it requiring that we also have pre-set user groups and that probably won't satisfy most people, or not what I want from the multi-user setup |
| [23:37:21] | stuartm: | s/defaults/no configuration option/ |
| [23:41:55] | stuartm: | e.g. taking the earlier example, if we offered three fixed user groups children/teens/adults that works if multi-user is just about parental controls, but not if you want to prevent a flat mate deleting your recordings or messing with your schedules and vice versa |
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| [23:50:36] | markk_: | jannau: any hints on how to stop the configure script from enabling xvmc in the ffmpeg build? |
| [23:56:03] | jannau: | markk_: --disable-xvmc doesn't work? even after a make distclean? |
| [23:57:30] | jannau: | I'll look tomorrow at it, my plan was just to remove it completely with/after the ffmpeg sync |
| [23:58:55] | markk_: | jannau: I mean in terms of removing xvmc entirely. If I remove all of the xvmc references, xvmc is still enabled in the ffmpeg build and the ffmpeg build fails because the correct libs aren't linked. looks like it's something to do with the parsing of allcodecs.h |
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