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| [03:41:37] | xris: | damn, trac's git stuff is REALLY slow |
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| [03:52:18] | Beirdo: | incredibly |
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| [04:55:05] | Gibby: | bummer newegg is sold out on the hdhomerun's today |
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| [05:35:36] | iamlindoro: | Gibby, I can only assume you meant that for #mythtv-users? |
| [05:46:47] | Gibby: | iamlindoro: you are correct... little blurry visoin now |
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| [07:16:12] | xris: | any other devs want to try? please sign in with your @mythtv.org address: http://mythtv.schedulesdirect.org:8080/s |
| [07:16:14] | xris: | http://mythtv.schedulesdirect.org:8080/ |
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| [07:30:49] | wagnerrp: | whats our password? |
| [07:35:11] | xris: | don't have any users imported |
| [07:35:18] | xris: | just sign up with your @Mythtv address |
| [07:35:28] | xris: | and on port 8060 |
| [07:35:41] | xris: | though no super hurry.. I'll install the unified auth system to make this a bit easier |
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| [07:43:28] | sphery: | stuartm: If what you were saying about subtitle decoding while in the recording editor means that toggling subtitles/captions off before entering the editor prevents the lockup, it would probably quiet things down a lot if you were to say so on one of the threads about it and/or the ticket. Thanks. |
| [07:44:19] | sphery: | stuartm: uh, nvm... seems markk has fixed it. :) |
| [07:45:04] | xris: | wagnerrp: made you a jira admin |
| [07:46:10] | wagnerrp: | woo! |
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| [07:48:46] | xris: | cool. jira and fisheye running on mysql |
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| [08:44:17] | stuartm: | markk: thanks |
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| [08:52:52] | Beirdo: | omg |
| [08:53:09] | Beirdo: | we are using system() to do chmod?! |
| [08:53:19] | Beirdo: | I think I'll be fixing that... like now. |
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| [08:59:13] | Beirdo: | and can anyone tell me why in the world mytharchive is chmod dirs to 0777 anyways?! |
| [09:01:41] | stuartm: | so that those pesky permissions don't get in the way ;) |
| [09:01:57] | Beirdo: | holy crapola :) |
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| [09:06:40] | stuartm: | Beirdo: might be time to draw up a list of dos and don'ts for plugin authors/code contributors |
| [09:07:05] | Beirdo: | might be, yeah :) |
| [09:07:26] | Beirdo: | chmod 777 shouldn't be enforced by myth :) |
| [09:08:00] | Beirdo: | but for now, I'll just change system(chmod) to chmod() (using the system call!) |
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| [09:35:40] | Beirdo: | ooooh |
| [09:35:57] | Beirdo: | and system("echo Cancel > file") |
| [09:36:05] | Beirdo: | this just doesn't seem right :) |
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| [10:29:32] | Beirdo: | OK, headscratcher |
| [10:29:53] | Beirdo: | I created an new function in util.cpp called RemoveDirectory |
| [10:29:57] | Beirdo: | it compiles... |
| [10:30:21] | Beirdo: | but I get an error saying it's not in scope when using it in mythburn.cpp in the constructor |
| [10:32:59] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: fixed the 'accouncement' typo |
| [10:33:18] | Beirdo: | ahhh, but accouncement sounds so cool! |
| [10:34:37] | Beirdo: | ooooh |
| [10:34:57] | Beirdo: | it's not seeing the new version of my header file as I didn't make install in libmyth |
| [10:35:01] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [10:36:02] | Beirdo: | there it goes |
| [10:37:02] | stuartm: | wonder just what it's going to take to get Opera to fix this css rendering bug that affects mythtv.org, I keep reporting the issue but it's obviously not a high priority |
| [10:37:35] | Beirdo: | they probably are waiting for a patch |
| [10:46:26] | stuartm: | Opera's not open souce |
| [10:46:30] | stuartm: | source |
| [10:46:44] | Beirdo: | ahh, that's a shame :( |
| [10:46:56] | Beirdo: | then they are probably waiting for a bribe. |
| [10:47:08] | stuartm: | might go that way in the future, they've started open sourcing other apps |
| [10:49:04] | stuartm: | but considering that every other browser ends up stealing their ideas from Opera, maybe they are staying closed source for a reason, they can't remain the 'innovative' browser if everyone else nicks the ideas the second they are committed |
| [10:51:50] | paul-h: | Those permissions go way back to the days when MythArchive was in MythWeb. I think it was so the apache user could access stuff in the mytharchive work directory. I've been using linux as long as I've been using Myth so when I wrote it I was naive on linux file permissions :) |
| [10:51:59] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [10:52:12] | Beirdo: | not a problem, we can sweep through and fix the perms as well |
| [10:52:35] | paul-h: | Beirdo: are those VERBOSE macro's missing a %1? |
| [10:52:42] | Beirdo: | which ones? |
| [10:52:50] | Beirdo: | ohhh |
| [10:52:56] | Beirdo: | one sec, let me look |
| [10:53:26] | paul-h: | in r27214, you have a .arg() but no %1 |
| [10:53:29] | Beirdo: | good catch :) |
| [10:53:43] | Beirdo: | yes they are. Feel free to fix if you wish, or I can |
| [10:53:47] | Beirdo: | whatever works |
| [10:54:26] | Beirdo: | I *meant* to put ": %1" at the end of each |
| [10:54:56] | paul-h: | I'm busy at the moment with other non Myth stuff so if you could fix it |
| [10:55:04] | Beirdo: | sure, no prob |
| [11:02:09] | Beirdo: | done |
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| [12:08:09] | markk: | stuartm: where you seeing the problem in #9218? if so, have you tested the fix? |
| [12:08:53] | stuartm: | markk: I was, I've tested the fix and so far I cannot reproduce the problem |
| [12:10:36] | markk: | thanks – still slightly worried that the tryLock is going to hamper performance under certain conditions – but I guess I'll wait and see. I guess that's a thumbs up for backporting as well? |
| [12:12:02] | stuartm: | markk: yup |
| [12:14:42] | stuartm: | I don't think the trylock can make things worse than they would be if we simply waited for a lock, so it's an improvement even if it's not a perfect solution |
| [12:20:52] | Beirdo: | OK, other than a funky "gimme the process id of this program" system() shell out... I have eradicated system() from the code |
| [12:21:09] | Beirdo: | that one's gonna take me being fresh in the morning |
| [12:22:59] | Beirdo: | still have popen and QProcess to go. wagnerr p (let's not beep him) is working through QProcess already |
| [12:23:38] | Beirdo: | his reworked (again) myth_system is working quite well for where we had myth_system before |
| [12:23:56] | Beirdo: | still need to test/debug the popen-like functionality |
| [12:24:30] | Beirdo: | and stress-test the timeouts again |
| [12:24:39] | Beirdo: | but so far so good |
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| [13:47:34] | Beirdo: | OK, impressive |
| [13:48:00] | Beirdo: | someone actually did the work to get mythtv to *crosscompile* for Windows, from Linux |
| [13:48:07] | Beirdo: | I very much like that idea :) |
| [13:58:57] | markk: | although the resulting binaries don't sound great. I don't think I've heard of a problem with direct3d code before. |
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| [14:03:43] | Beirdo: | well, there may be some unresolved issues :) |
| [14:04:04] | Beirdo: | but being able to build on a high-powered linux box has a lot of good to it. |
| [14:04:42] | Beirdo: | and to be honest, aren't people having some issues with native-built windows frontends at times? |
| [14:05:01] | Beirdo: | been a while since I last test-compiled even |
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| [14:47:05] | hever: | Hej. Is it possible to use mythtv for a web conference over webcams? I'm going to connect my camera to the pc. Then a user should be able to connect over some URL and we could chat... |
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| [15:21:18] | stuartm: | hever: no, entirely the wrong software for that |
| [15:21:31] | stuartm: | and you want #mythtv-users in future |
| [15:22:05] | hever: | Actually I'm thinking of using a flash app for this via mythtv. |
| [15:22:28] | hever: | Even if mythtv is not made for this. It would be really nice if it could support this... |
| [15:22:50] | hever: | If not you have to start another GUI somehow |
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| [15:26:29] | stuartm: | well that's what plugins are there for, so good luck with it |
| [15:36:31] | paul-h: | I never used it but didn't MythPhone do something similar to what he wants? |
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| [15:38:00] | hever: | its defunct |
| [15:38:30] | hever: | paul-h, I even can't find one flash based free video conference tool for download. |
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| [15:41:53] | paul-h: | It's only defunct because non of the current devs use it and it needed a lot of work to convert it to MythUI. |
| [15:42:04] | superm1: | iamlindoro, just FYI, i helped debug someone with broken python bindings the other day, and it was boiling down to them having some laying around in /usr/local from a source install previously. packages are doing it properly |
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| [16:17:36] | stuartm: | Chutt: have you considered changing the -dev and -users lists to auto-reject instead of holding for moderation? |
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| [16:34:15] | Gibby: | This was not fixed in 0.24 http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8182 however the release notes state it was |
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| [18:39:29] | stuartm: | markk: another deadlock while editing, this one appears to be because we seek to a point in the video where the aspect ratio has changed, it deadlocks as it tries to reinit |
| [18:41:13] | stuartm: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1991339 |
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| [19:20:39] | Beirdo: | stuartm: I think sphery was seeing soemthing along those lines too. Aspect ratio switching in playback may be a wee bit buggy. |
| [19:21:04] | jpabq: | Any objection to adding a keybinding to bring up a list of upcoming recordings for a recording rule? |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | I would have thought we had one already. No objections here, as long as it's not a default value that will mess people up :) |
| [19:24:57] | jpabq: | We have a binding for bring up a list based on the show title, but not based on the recording rule. The recording rule is useful if you have custom record setup. For example, I have a recording rule for "Creating the world of Harry Potter%". Since they did that series as individual specials, instead of as a "series". |
| [19:25:19] | Beirdo: | Ahhh |
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| [19:54:50] | stuartm: | hmm, github is fubar, so much for that vaunted stability that it was supposed to offer ;0 |
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| [20:30:44] | stuartm: | xris: the timing is amusing – http://status.github.com/ |
| [20:32:49] | xris: | hahahaha |
| [20:32:57] | xris: | ouch |
| [20:34:23] | stuartm: | been down approaching an hour now :) |
| [20:34:29] | xris: | geesch |
| [20:34:42] | xris: | wonder how often this happens |
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| [20:48:41] | stuartm: | xris: but importantly you can still buy your github branded clothing – http://shop.github.com/ |
| [20:48:52] | xris: | lol |
| [20:49:02] | xris: | gotta make sure the important stuff still works |
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| [21:14:56] | Beirdo: | this almost never happens that I've seen |
| [21:15:13] | Beirdo: | but I'd rather have them fixing their database than having to fix ours :) |
| [21:16:50] | xris: | probably a website db, not the git backend. |
| [21:16:52] | stuartm: | seems to have been more than a database, "We've restored a GitHub Pages config backup from a few days ago. Most Pages sites should now be accessible." << 'Pages' is their web-hosting stuff |
| [21:16:55] | xris: | db probably holds ssh keys and such |
| [21:17:14] | stuartm: | 'a few days ago' is hardly reassuring |
| [21:17:25] | stuartm: | but, we'll see |
| [21:18:11] | xris: | well, nice thing about git is that if they *do* go down and we decide to stop using them, we can just repoint everyone's master to our box |
| [21:18:32] | xris: | new fisheye is nice |
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| [21:26:39] | stuartm: | xris: automatically? |
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| [21:31:05] | xris: | stuartm: no.. users would have to repoint their repos |
| [21:31:54] | stuartm: | xris: ah, thought it did something cleverer than svn |
| [21:32:12] | xris: | well, svn can't do that, so it's cleverer. :) |
| [21:32:24] | stuartm: | yes it can |
| [21:32:39] | xris: | not without some hackery in every single .svn directory |
| [21:32:40] | stuartm: | svn switch |
| [21:32:45] | stuartm: | nuh-uh |
| [21:32:52] | xris: | swich changes directories within a repo. it can't change repo URLs |
| [21:33:02] | xris: | at least, not the last time I looked inti ot |
| [21:33:41] | stuartm: | we've been using it with new developers for years, switching from the http url to the svn+ssh url |
| [21:34:02] | xris: | I tried to use it to switch servers once and it didn't work |
| [21:34:30] | stuartm: | and I've used it to rebase a repo when it was moved from a private server to sourceforge |
| [21:34:44] | xris: | huh. you win, then. |
| [21:35:10] | xris: | I think I was just trying to get it to change the URL so it didn't have user@ in the svn+ssh url and couldn't get it to work |
| [21:36:02] | stuartm: | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.5/svn.ref.svn.c.switch.html& nbsp;– The --relocate option causes svn switch to do something different: it updates your working copy to point to the same repository directory, only at a different URL (typically because an administrator has moved the repository to another server, or to another URL on the same server). |
| [21:36:40] | stuartm: | anyway, it's not really that important |
| [21:37:07] | xris: | ahhh |
| [21:37:16] | xris: | anyway, it's basically the exact same as svn, then |
| [21:42:43] | stuartm: | it's a comedy of errors – http://status.github.com/ :) |
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| [21:52:19] | xris: | lol |
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| [22:46:01] | stuartm: | 3 hours+, but who's counting? |
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| [23:05:17] | xris: | yeah |
| [23:05:18] | xris: | wtf |
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| [23:21:31] | xris: | and seems they're back |
| [23:21:37] | xris: | just under 3 hours, apparently |
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| [23:22:29] | Beirdo: | still restoring the action data. |
| [23:22:51] | Beirdo: | that's pretty good, though. To be fair, if our database failed, it would likely take all day to fix |
| [23:23:12] | Beirdo: | and at least one of us would be USELESS for a week after |
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| [23:29:14] | xris: | huh? |
| [23:29:30] | xris: | git? we'd just blow away the server, clone off of a dev, and ask everyone to re-push |
| [23:30:51] | stuartm: | xris: just over 3, I first noticed problems at ~19:45GMT it came back at ~22:53GMT, their first tweet acknowledging problems was at 19:50:47 GMT |
| [23:31:12] | stuartm: | Beirdo: if we had regular backups it wouldn't take 5 minutes to restore from one |
| [23:31:22] | stuartm: | afaik we don't actually keep any backups at all |
| [23:36:44] | xris: | new server should get backed up to GreyFoxx's work stuff. |
| [23:36:47] | stuartm: | in many ways services like github are burdened by the sheer size of the operation, if a database goes down then it's vastly more complicated, I'm not knocking github but it does put a dent in the argument of greater stability :) |
| [23:36:59] | xris: | hmm, though not sure if I've actually asked him yet. he does it for SD, though. |
| [23:38:54] | stuartm: | it's mostly just funny that it should happen right now, when one of the major reasons given for using github was stability ;) S**t happens, whether it's a private server or a massive cooperate operation with a full time staff of admins |
| [23:40:57] | Beirdo: | you may be witnessing the only downtime for the entire year |
| [23:41:13] | Beirdo: | so... maybe it's outta proportion? ;) |
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