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| [01:56:28] | knightr: | reynaldo, any reason why you didn't backport those Spanish translation tickets, do you wish to backport them or can I backport them? |
| [01:59:03] | reynaldo: | knightr: just been uterly bussy and still missing at least one to apply |
| [01:59:13] | reynaldo: | feel free to backport them if you have the time |
| [02:00:28] | knightr: | reynaldo, np it's just that Nick Morrott (GB English translator) just asked the question on the translator's list... |
| [02:01:27] | knightr: | If it's no yet completed we'll wait, we still have time... |
| [02:01:41] | reynaldo: | got it, well, I'd rather apply the one that's left first |
| [02:01:48] | reynaldo: | will take a look at that thread anyway |
| [02:01:52] | reynaldo: | thanks for the hint |
| [02:02:08] | knightr: | reynaldo, np... |
| [02:02:33] | knightr: | btwe, it's not quite late where you are? |
| [02:02:45] | knightr: | s/btw/btwe |
| [02:02:58] | knightr: | (I was not expecting to get a reply tonight... :) ) |
| [02:04:06] | reynaldo: | UTC/GMT-4 (+1 due to DST) |
| [02:04:14] | reynaldo: | = UTC-3 |
| [02:04:20] | reynaldo: | anyway, I stay up late :-) |
| [02:06:37] | knightr: | reynaldo, ah, ok... time diff was not as bad as I thought... it's still late though... ttyl :) |
| [02:08:11] | reynaldo: | hehe, OK, and thanks again |
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| [03:59:13] | wagnerrp: | j-rod|afk: was just about to make the same exact comment |
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| [08:08:41] | markk: | stuartm: trying to track down the crash I introduced in r27000 – it only happens with MythUIShape – then I noticed the 'GetMythMainWindow()->GetCurrentPainter()->GetFormatImage();' lines. then I realised we're bypassing the painters entirely in mythuishape – probably accounts for the memory leak someone observed the other day as well. |
| [08:09:44] | stuartm: | oops |
| [08:10:43] | stuartm: | paul-h: ^^ Any reason for that? |
| [08:13:53] | markk: | stuartm: I'm going to try removing the mythimage and painting routines from mythuishape. with the exception of drawelipse, they are replicated in the painters and cached there as well. (well – mostly cached – but I'll fill in the blanks). having it in the painters allows the painters to optimise where they can. |
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| [08:19:54] | stuartm: | it was always the intention that the painters should be doing the drawing for mythuishape, it was originally implemented that way but unfortunately anti-aliasing on the rounded corners etc wasn't working well with pure opengl and with no GL experts around to improve it paul-h gave up and switched it to use QT everywhere |
| [08:20:49] | stuartm: | drawn in pure GL there would be no need for MythImage in that painter, nor any caching |
| [08:21:17] | stuartm: | well not in the sense of mythimage caching, just texture caching |
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| [12:40:58] | markk: | stuartm: so mythuiimage is getting its mythimages from the wrong painter as well. any suggestions on how to fix it? |
| [12:56:12] | stuartm: | how is that happening? GetCurrentPainter() is returning the UI painter? |
| [12:57:31] | stuartm: | err GetMythPainter() |
| [13:00:10] | stuartm: | hmm, yeah, ok ... |
| [13:04:13] | stuartm: | I'd suggest having an intermediate parent, the screenstack for example track the painter instead of mythmainwindow, that would allow the OSD to use one painter without changing the painter for everything else |
| [13:04:54] | stuartm: | the OSD doesn't use the screenstack atm, so it would need a temporary hack |
| [13:10:38] | stuartm: | I'd add a MythUIType::GetPainter() which recurses up the chain until it finds the top most parent (the window) and then returns the value of MythScreenStack::GetPainter(), the OSD windows would need a parent though |
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| [13:16:08] | markk: | stuartm: I'll need to have a look at mythscreenstack again – last time I tried to use it, there were other issues. |
| [13:17:55] | markk: | assert(parent) :) |
| [13:19:09] | stuartm: | we can modify mythscreenstack to make it work, but it would be nice to preserve that organisational hierachy if possible, that simplifies things a little |
| [13:22:52] | stuartm: | markk: ok, so long as we prevent the main draw timer being used on that stack, are there any problems with parenting the OSD stack to MythMainWindow? There may be advantages to doing so, e.g. the Network Control stuff uses the screen stacks to determine what popups/screens are visible |
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| [13:23:18] | x[x]: | Guys.. iv just discovered myth tv |
| [13:23:23] | x[x]: | interesting concept |
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| [13:23:33] | x[x]: | do you need to buy a cable for it to work? |
| [13:23:40] | x[x]: | like im upstairs and my tv is downstairs |
| [13:24:45] | stuartm: | markk: for now just remove the assert, and add null pointer checks anywhere we use parent |
| [13:25:09] | stuartm: | x[x]: the guys in #mythtv-users will be able to answer all your questions |
| [13:25:24] | markk: | stuartm: I'd have to check – though I'd be nervous trying to take that approach so close to release – bearing in mind this needs fixing for 0.24 |
| [13:25:39] | x[x]: | ok stuartm thanks |
| [13:27:30] | stuartm: | markk: true, hmm, I guess a hack will have to do then, override painter in MythMainWindowPrivate so long as the OSD is in use? |
| [13:28:09] | markk: | stuartm: if we use the MythUIType::GetPainter approach – we could set the painter for the main UI screenstacks and for the OSD set it at the screentype level. would that work? |
| [13:28:38] | stuartm: | markk: yeah, that's fine |
| [13:31:01] | markk: | stuartm: where do the screenstacks get created? |
| [13:32:03] | markk: | biab |
| [13:33:52] | stuartm: | myththemebase in pretty much every case |
| [13:34:54] | stuartm: | there's one in mythweather somewhere |
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| [17:07:07] | markk: | stuartm: first cut of fixing the painters. http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1974863 |
| [17:08:22] | markk: | main problems are a couple of static calls in mythimage and the image cache code in mythuihelper – which is currently causing an intermittent crash on exit (mythfrontend – not playback) |
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| [17:10:15] | Gorlist1: | Hi, quick question – what command lists which firmware my device/tv card is using? |
| [17:10:29] | wagnerrp: | please see #linuxtv |
| [17:10:39] | Gorlist1: | thank you |
| [17:24:01] | stuartm: | markk: looks good |
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| [18:01:59] | danielk22: | iamlindoro: stuartm: AFAICT #9137 is bogus. I've asked for some additional info. But it looks like either he set his channel ordering to something other than channum or he has multiple inputs connected to the same card with aliased channum's. |
| [18:04:27] | danielk22: | I started looking at the similar, but older, #6948 over the weekend and have made some progress on it. But that's not something I would like to cram in before 0.24 as it touches all kinds of things. |
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| [18:31:52] | stuartm: | no fix by 0.24 is fine, I would like to fix the favourites/channel group/browse-all issue in the long term even though I don't use livetv |
| [18:32:40] | stuartm: | anything that doesn't work as expected hurts usability |
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| [19:07:56] | skd5aner: | jpoet hang out here? |
| [19:08:32] | skd5aner: | !seen jpoet |
| [19:08:32] | MythLogBot: | jpoet has not been seen here |
| [19:09:51] | iamlindoro: | jpabq |
| [19:10:31] | ** iamlindoro wonders if this is another "how come you haven't backported 'x' yet? ** | |
| [19:11:11] | iamlindoro: | hmm, can't be, he's backported all his changes |
| [19:12:27] | skd5aner: | heh, not this time :) |
| [19:14:00] | skd5aner: | jpabq: was curious if the comment you left on #9148 would be general advice for everyone after the signal/channel monitor changes which now incorporate the HD-PVR? If so, would it make since to note it here so people are aware they may need to change their settings accordingly... |
| [19:14:01] | skd5aner: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0. . . . Instructions |
| [19:15:23] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: also, not sure I ever asked "how come" – just "do you plan on" – which usually just makes me wonder if I should include it, during this few week overlap, in the 0.24 or 0.25 release notes – but I'm just going to try and do my best to keep track and not bug people constantly with that question |
| [19:16:20] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: no, it was Nick Morrott who asked "how come" |
| [19:16:46] | skd5aner: | ah, gotcha... yea – I honestly only care for tracking purposes :) |
| [19:17:19] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: People should only adjust that if absolutely necessary-- for the vast majority of people it shouldn't be needed at all |
| [19:17:52] | skd5aner: | ok, I haven't tried it yet, but I know it often takes me 5+ seconds for my HD-PVR to get a clean enough signal from the STB after a channel change to be stable |
| [19:18:08] | iamlindoro: | I think that he is exaggerating quite a lot to call it two seconds |
| [19:18:25] | iamlindoro: | Mine is slow to lock as well, but it certainly doesn't happen after two seconds |
| [19:19:08] | skd5aner: | cool – I'm very greatful for the potential of the feature – it'll solve the only real issue I have with tuning on the HD-PVR (which in the meantime I've componsated for with a sleep in the channel changing script) |
| [19:19:42] | skd5aner: | s/tuning/capturing |
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| [19:25:37] | j-rod: | now that's just friggin' comical. |
| [19:26:21] | j-rod: | someone's trying to correct me on something about mceusb devices. haha. |
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| [19:57:26] | Beirdo: | j-rod: I love your response |
| [19:58:06] | j-rod: | I thought the See also: at the end was a nice touch :D |
| [19:58:22] | Beirdo: | yeah, gave me a pretty good laugh |
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| [20:08:27] | rhpot1991: | can anyone verify if mythtranscode changed at some point so it no longer accepts dashes in the start time: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/663025 |
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| [20:17:07] | wagnerrp: | it looks like it accepts dashes just fine, but it will not accept a dash as the separator for ISO8601 format |
| [20:21:55] | iamlindoro: | Is there *any* standard in which dashes are acceptable as separators for time? |
| [20:22:15] | tgm4883: | tgm4883 standard |
| [20:22:19] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [20:22:22] | tgm4883: | it's not used very much though |
| [20:22:45] | iamlindoro: | 2010-10-10-20-00–00 isn't any sort of parseable date-time, IMO |
| [20:23:00] | ** iamlindoro agrees with that ticket's resolution :) ** | |
| [20:23:16] | tgm4883: | as do I |
| [20:23:25] | iamlindoro: | FWIW I don't see any recent changes that have changed date parsing-- at most I think it might changed in the Qt4 port (.21-.22) |
| [20:23:31] | tgm4883: | rhpot1991, maybe it was a bug that allowed it to work in the past? |
| [20:23:51] | iamlindoro: | I'd buy that, maybe some Qt3 thing fixed in Qt4 |
| [20:24:31] | tgm4883: | could be, either way, there isn't anything to fix since it's not broke |
| [20:24:34] | wagnerrp: | did they explain why theyre running it manually? |
| [20:25:17] | wagnerrp: | they wouldnt have that problem running mythtranscode through the jobqueue |
| [20:25:26] | wagnerrp: | as in that case, it gets the program from the jobqueue table |
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| [20:25:32] | tgm4883: | nope |
| [20:25:32] | sphery: | rhpot1991: valid formats for the --starttime argument (since the consolidation of --starttime parsing in MythCommandLineParser) are yyyyMMddhhmmss and Qt::ISODate ( http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.5/qt.html#DateFormat-enum ), where Qt::ISODate is somewhat sloppy in parsing, but according to the API requires YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SS |
| [20:26:30] | rhpot1991: | "Pulled these commands out of a script that I modified to do commercial removal." |
| [20:26:32] | rhpot1991: | is all that they say |
| [20:26:42] | sphery: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/24110 specifically |
| [20:27:34] | rhpot1991: | sphery: thanks |
| [20:27:42] | sphery: | so, yes, it has changed (prior to 0.23, though) |
| [20:28:27] | sphery: | we used to have different code for each app, and some allowed formats others didn't. Now it's standardized code, and we only support yyyyMMddhhmmss + YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SS . Anything else that works today isn't guaranteed to keep working :) |
| [20:30:54] | wagnerrp: | rhpot1991: but even then, they pulled it out poorly |
| [20:31:10] | wagnerrp: | as the jobqueue would not return that for any of the date strings |
| [20:31:17] | sphery: | yeah, proper fix is to fix the script |
| [20:31:56] | wagnerrp: | im guessing thats not even what the script was trying to feed mythtranscode |
| [20:32:10] | wagnerrp: | my bet is its some completely independent issue |
| [20:32:34] | wagnerrp: | and as the user tried manually walking through the script to figure out where the error was, without knowing what they were doing |
| [20:32:43] | wagnerrp: | they manually passed in a bad datetime string |
| [20:32:58] | wagnerrp: | having not actually checked what the proper format was |
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| [20:35:35] | rhpot1991: | wagnerrp: from reading it, it seems like the user pulled that line out of some script some time ago, and has been using it in their own custom script ever since |
| [20:36:24] | sphery: | it likely would have worked with the old parsing code used by mythtranscode |
| [20:37:01] | sphery: | so it's a case where someone used an unsupported format because it worked in their script, but now that it doesn't work, they actually get notified that it's time to improve the script :) |
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| [21:20:48] | clever: | how exactly do the 'keys' get from lirc.cpp to mythmainwindow.cpp when using lirc? |
| [21:21:21] | clever: | trying to fix a bug where mythfrontend stops responding to all input, but continues to play whatever i started |
| [21:25:42] | sphery: | clever: TTBOMK, all cases where that happens, even keyboard input stops--meaning it's not LIRC code |
| [21:26:00] | sphery: | i.e. if you hit the SCREENSHOT keybinding (not the ScreenShot jump point) |
| [21:26:49] | clever: | sphery: yeah i know its not the lirc code, not even telnet works once it borks |
| [21:27:01] | clever: | just trying to trace the spot between the 2 to see where it is breaking |
| [21:29:05] | clever: | but somewhere between lirc and mythmainwindow, is the broken code, that all other key events pass thru |
| [21:29:11] | clever: | enless its the mythmainwindow thread itself |
| [21:29:24] | sphery: | IIRC the LIRC code sends some kind of event that the main event loop receives and then turns into a keypress, then it goes to normal keypress processing stuff |
| [21:31:59] | clever: | yeah, the LIRC::process function reads each button and turns it into an event, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . irc.cpp#L344 |
| [21:32:16] | clever: | QCoreApplication::postEvent is used to send the event itself |
| [21:32:46] | clever: | MythMainWindow::customEvent then receives the event and handles it http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . ow.cpp#L1924 |
| [21:33:27] | clever: | so either the MythMainWindow thread isnt returning to the idle loop, it something is breaking in the middle |
| [21:36:47] | clever: | i'll have to rebuild with my VERBOSE patch for threadid's to get a better view of whats going on when it fails |
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| [22:12:43] | kenni: | Do any of you by chance know how to change the mime-type (as found by the file-command) of a plain text file? Eg. "text/x-pascal" -> "text/plain". iconv fixes the encoding, but it doesn't seem to be capable of handling the mime-type. |
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| [22:39:23] | clever: | kenni: the 'file' program inspects the contents and guessed the type based on a large set of rules |
| [22:39:42] | kenni: | clever: yep, the magic file, right? |
| [22:40:03] | clever: | kenni: yeah, you can probly find it thru strace/ltrace |
| [22:43:08] | kenni: | clever: thanks...I was just wondering if there was some easy way to convert it, like iconv :) It should have no functional impact AFAICT, fixing the encoding was the critical part, I was just getting annoyed since I couldn't figure out how to fix it :) |
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