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Tuesday, August 23rd, 2011, 01:51 UTC

[01:51:56]

k-man:

in this screenshot: http://flip.dyndns.org/images/myth-screenshot . . . 7-52.790.png

[01:53:20]

k-man:

you can see that there is some box around each button widget that is way too big. It comes from the area of a widgetshape that is defined as having an area of 0,0,100%,100% I'm just wondering if it is declared incorrectly or its fine and just shows up like that when borders are turned on?

[01:53:26]

k-man:

see xml here: http://pastie.org/2414510

[03:27:50]

k-man:

where are things like %TITLE% in themes documented?

[03:29:02]

k-man:

like what is %SUBTITLE% is it a sub-title or something to do with subtitles?

[03:32:14]

k-man:

justinh, oh – it's not quite a museum, but there are some good screenshots here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Demo_Theme

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justinh:

k-man: there's a list of commonly used stuff somewhere

[06:31:39]

justinh:

aha! http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Recordings-ui.xml# . . . most_windows

[06:34:02]

justinh:

k-man: looks like that box around the buttons is just showing you the button boundaries

[06:34:15]

k-man:

thanks

[06:34:59]

k-man:

justinh, I noticed that box is tied to the <area>0,0,100%,100%</area> specificaly the 100% bits

[06:35:19]

justinh:

100% will just be 100% of the parent area though

[06:35:23]

k-man:

if I make it 10 rather than 100% the box is sized normaly

[06:35:30]

k-man:

oh I see

[06:37:26]

justinh:

so, say you had a statetype name="buttonitem" with <area>0,0,100,100</area> with the shape called up in active, selectedactive or whatever state, the shape size would be 100,100. I think that's how it works

[06:38:10]

justinh:

meh I've had a reconsider. I'm gonna open a ticket or 2

[06:38:30]

k-man:

reconsider on what?

[06:38:45]

justinh:

just some issues I've run into

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** justinh ponders **

[06:55:07]

k-man:

http://flip.dyndns.org/images/myth-screenshot . . . 4-39.558.png

[06:55:17]

k-man:

I'm pretty happy with it now

[06:55:24]

k-man:

theres probably a few more tweaks to make

[06:55:38]

k-man:

but its got a lot more room for program info now

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justinh:

aye :-)

[06:56:49]

justinh:

looking good

[06:57:28]

k-man:

the channel and air time are not distinct enough

[06:57:39]

k-man:

I think I might try changing the font colour slightly

[06:58:05]

k-man:

how did you make your clock have the day/date/time?

[07:01:30]

k-man:

gtg, talk later

[07:01:32]

justinh:

I don't think you've got the room ;-)

[07:02:51]

justinh:

stuartm: did anybody ever do conditional template stuff – e.g. if a field isn't populated don't display preceding text?

[07:03:03]

justinh:

(for multi field areas)

[07:06:02]

justinh:

I'm trying to use the director textarea for <template>%DIRECTOR% %YEAR% Rated: %RATING</template> & just discovered that using the 'rating' title for the textarea results in no template output

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justinh:

if !(m_templatecontenttext) clip to next space character... or something

[07:10:00]

justinh:

man, I *REALLY* need to start coding again

[07:10:55]

justinh:

see that template idea I just mentioned works great where there's data to show, but where there ain't – i.e. in the gallery view & we're looking at folders... hnngggggggggg

[07:11:09]

justinh:

you just see a bunch of spaced & Rated: sitting there

[07:14:56]

justinh:

see if I can understand how the code works

[07:18:42]

justinh:

arghh github.. I HATE YOU

[07:19:20]

justinh:

I can see "Fix the regexp used for variable substitution with templates in themes. This produces the originally intended behaviour allowing multiple character conditional strings to be appended/prepended to the text" which looks like it'd do what I want but...

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justinh:

ahh the multiline character conditional strings only seen to work when there's just one element – the single variable

[07:24:22]

justinh:

what is it with me wanting *jam* on everything all the time these days?

[07:37:53]

justinh:

god, github even sucks for browsing the source code

[07:45:59]

justinh:

ahh. I was doing it wrong!

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justinh:

<textarea name="director" from="basetextarea"><template>%DIRECTOR% %YEAR% %RATING%</template> will do

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justinh:

so if there's no director you won't see any of the rest

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justinh:

but if anybody wants <template>%DIRECTOR%, in %YEAR%, rated %RATING%<template> to not show extra unwanted text there's some more work to do

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justinh:

might not be hard but regex were never my strong suit

[08:12:42]

justinh:

like what does "%(([^\\|%]+)?\\||\\|(.))?(\\w+)(\\|(.+))?%" do ?

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stuartm:

justinh: anything between % and | is appended to the start of the string, between | and % to the end but only if that string is not empty

[09:12:42]

stuartm:

so %"|TITLE|"% would produce "Crimewatch", %Title: |TITLE%; == Title: Crimewatch etc

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stuartm:

justinh: in your example you want – <template>%DIRECTOR%%, in |YEAR%%, rated |RATING%<template>

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k-man:

stuartm, is that documented in the wiki somewhere?

[09:22:54]

stuartm:

I thought it was, under the textarea documentation but I could be wrong

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k-man:

let me check

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justinh:

ahh

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k-man:

do you know if it is in .24-fixes?

[09:25:05]

justinh:

see I thought I could remember this being discussed, but it would've been so long ago it was hazy

[09:27:43]

justinh:

k-man: it is :)

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justinh:

stuartm: thankyou very much :-)

[09:29:44]

justinh:

I never did like all those separately labelled textareas

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justinh:

see up to now I thought the % thing was to name the variable

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justinh:

didn't realise it was part of the regex stuff

[09:32:20]

justinh:

wiki says "Template is preferable to using the <value> element when displaying variables. When a screen is loaded, the value element is displayed first, then replaced with template when the variable data is available. This can be values which exist in a map (such as most Program Info like %TITLE%, %SUBTITLE%, etc) but it can also be any named text area where you wish to put the inserted value in a textual context,

[09:32:21]

stuartm:

it was always that way, pre-mythui, but there it wasn't used much except to put quotes around subtitles etc

[09:32:44]

stuartm:

it might be more useful now ..

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justinh:

*way* more useful now :)

[09:32:58]

justinh:

sweet joys

[09:33:39]

k-man:

justinh, I don't get it, what's it useful for?

[09:45:04]

justinh:

doing away with all the piddly little textareas like ratinglabel dirlabel, labellabel

[09:45:31]

justinh:

and all the piddly little textareas containing piddly little things. like rating, userrating etc

[09:45:44]

justinh:

just put them in one textarea now :)

[09:46:39]

justinh:

nothing used to piss me off more than area="FOOlabel" then area="foo" then area="foo2label" then area="foo2" then "yetmorefoolabel" followed by "yetmorefoo"

[09:47:01]

justinh:

now I can wipe them all out as much as possible :)

[09:47:27]

justinh:

especially where the thing being displayed is only one or 2 (useful to know) characters

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k-man:

right

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stuartm:

k-man: using justinh's example, if there was now year it could look like "Steven Spielberg, in year , rating 10" but using the stuff above it would work properly even when a variable is empty – "Steven Spielberg, rating 10"

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k-man:

right

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stuartm:

s/now/no/

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** stuartm needs coffee **

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k-man:

thankjs

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justinh:

we need this in the wiki. I'll put it there when I figure out how to say it. I need coffee too

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stuartm:

so you could say "The film Saving Private Ryan was directed by Steven Spielberg, released in 1997" or something

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stuartm:

but it needs to be cleverer than that, otherwise with no director or year info it becomes "The film Saving Private Ryan was" ....

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stuartm:

ok, so it's best kept simple ;)

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justinh:

it's clever enough to do what I want for now :)

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justinh:

arghhh help!

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justinh:

oh wait..

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justinh:

belay that

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justinh:

haha. nevermind. couldn't get my program finder times list to centre & scrollcentre

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justinh:

heh when was showarrow deprecated?

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justinh:

oh. it wasn't, it seems. so why are these arrows showing?

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justinh:

ah

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stuartm:

showarrow was deprecated iirc

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stuartm:

it was redundant, if you didn't want the arrows displayed in a theme you can just omit them

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stuartm:

but in most cases they are there to indicate a submenu (or similar) and they are best included in the theme as an aid to navigation

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justinh:

yeah well there are enough times I don't want em & enough times it's used so I made a new buttonlist without :)

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justinh:

in 0.24 the xml is parsed for showarrow, so maybe not deprecated here

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justinh:

anyway.. I'm ready. got a shiny new buttonlist

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stuartm:

heh, itv have started blocking you watching video on their site if you are blocking the adverts shown on the page

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stuartm:

(and no, I wasn't actually there to watch anything, just wondering why they are filling prime time slots with repeats)

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mag0o:

sounds like nickjr.com

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mag0o:

they block the kids games if you block ads

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stuartm:

it's a bit pathetic, I wouldn't be blocking the ads if I were interested in them and since I'm not interested, what do they lose?

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mag0o:

page impressions?

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stuartm:

I can't be absolutely certain, but I don't think I've ever bought anything as a result of seeing an advert

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stuartm:

I've never clicked through on a web ad

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justinh:

don't they have ads you can't skip in the video too? Mind, they do need the income

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justinh:

gah... how many popups? lol.. well this is kinda what I wanted a long time ago, to banish all the icky qt crap.. now I got my wish.. and more work ;-)

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justinh:

I think now that I'm more or less happy with the general look/feel things'll go smoothly .. and I'm going back in & changing existing stuff to inherit more so there'll be less work should I change my mind

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justinh:

reckon any theming team effort would need an editor to collate all that kind of stuff

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mag0o:

yup

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justinh:

hmmm. how do I get the timepopup up?

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justinh:

as in schedule-ui timepopup

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stuartm:

search list, by time iirc

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stuartm:

which is incidentally the search list I want to get rid of since it performs the same function as the guide grid but in a much less efficient and slower way

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justinh:

tried that. it's not popping a popup up

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stuartm:

justinh: once in that screen, Menu > Chose Search Phase

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stuartm:

Phrase

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justinh:

ah

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stuartm:

which is mis-leading since we're not searching using a phrase but a time

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stuartm:

yet another reason to lose it

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justinh:

and another reason... the 'Phrase' text seems hard-coded

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justinh:

holy poop... must this search take so long?

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justinh:

meh just can it already. I hate it :)

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justinh:

there don't even have to be so many different search screens anyway. just have a couple.. or just one.. and search by X

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justinh:

god, who wanted *this* as a feature?

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justinh:

any chance, when you do the hw profiling, to also collect usage reports for screens? ;-)

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justinh:

then say "look dude, you're the only person using this thing.. we're sick of maintaining it"

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justinh:

well at least I don't have to reload the whole screen to see changes. phew

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justinh:

oh jesus.. so when you select a time using the search 'phrase' it goes off & does the search again? arghh

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stuartm:

justinh: like I said, it's slated for removal, in 0.25 if I can find the time to implement a time search option in the guide grid

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justinh:

you got my full backing for that

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justinh:

something like a jump to time feature was always on my to-do list

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justinh:

along with a calendar widget

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