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| [15:48:23] | stuartm: | I saw a UI I quite liked the other day, I figured I might create a theme inspired by it but my initial mockups have ended up looking not so much similar to the original but exactly the same |
| [15:50:46] | stuartm: | I'm stuck on where to introduce some original ideas while keeping the overall impact that I liked ... so the next theme I release might just make me a target for lawsuits ;) |
| [15:51:50] | iamlindoro: | At least there would be a new theme... hasn't been in a long while |
| [15:52:01] | iamlindoro: | we'd say nice things about you when they took you away |
| [15:57:32] | stuartm: | I do at least need to compare some of this against the existing themes, see whether it's different enough to what we've already got |
| [15:58:06] | stuartm: | something about it is familiar beyond the fact that it's a straight lift from a commercial TV |
| [16:00:12] | stuartm: | I've subtly changed the colour scheme from blue to a sort of green, that might prove to be a mistake but I'm tired of blue |
| [16:00:40] | iamlindoro: | I have often thought about creating a green theme, but every effort I've made has ended up looking like a lime |
| [16:01:09] | iamlindoro: | There are a limited number of friendly gree hues before it gets gaudy |
| [16:01:12] | iamlindoro: | green |
| [16:57:24] | stuartm: | aye, it's tricky and I'm not even sure whether I've got it right with this one, it's hard to be truly objective |
| [16:57:53] | stuartm: | much of it will use shapes, so it should be easy to adjust |
| [16:59:26] | stuartm: | and it's still not certain that I'll even bother to finish, once I get past the initial fun stage it takes a certain amount of effort |
| [16:59:55] | stuartm: | still, it's given me a couple of ideas for small improvements to the code |
| [20:48:57] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: what was that good font source that you used for Arclight? |
| [20:56:13] | iamlindoro: | stuartm: http://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/ |
| [20:57:11] | iamlindoro: | The one I used from there is League Gothic, though I think Junction is pretty nice, and their samples of Capralba are nice but apparently it's not a "real" font, you can't get ttfs of it |
| [20:58:38] | stuartm: | great, thanks |
| [20:58:42] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [20:59:58] | stuartm: | I wouldn't recognise a great font, I just don't have that eye but I'm looking for something which other people might appreciate ;) |
| [21:00:45] | iamlindoro: | I only know what I like... some things are obviously not right for any of my themes, like the pencil thin fonts |
| [21:00:57] | iamlindoro: | And I don't like many Serif fonts, if any |
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| [21:03:41] | stuartm: | yeah, something thin isn't going to work here, and for whatever reason anything with a base on the number 1 looks all wrong too |
| [21:04:18] | stuartm: | so that's ruled out 95% of my currently installed fonts for a start |
| [21:05:02] | iamlindoro: | I have experimented with Junction, haven't used it but have come awful close a few times |
| [21:05:38] | iamlindoro: | For some reason I really like the descending numerals |
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| [22:06:15] | stuartm: | League Gothic is too narrow, which is a shame since it looked good out of context |
| [22:08:04] | iamlindoro: | could always apply a stretch |
| [22:09:33] | stuartm: | I could, it's just easier to establish things like layout in Inkscape first and calculating stretch there is difficult |
| [22:10:10] | stuartm: | I've gone with an Arial clone (yeah, yeah) as it's a good fit for the font used in the UI I'm ripping off |
| [22:10:38] | iamlindoro: | any hints on what you're cloning? |
| [22:12:58] | stuartm: | a Samsung tv UI, don't know the specific model but recent-ish I think |
| [22:14:45] | stuartm: | can't find any images online atm, I'm referencing some very low quality photos I grabbed |
| [22:16:41] | stuartm: | working title is gnusmas ... |
| [22:16:59] | iamlindoro: | I have started a few things in the last few months, but just can't muster the enthusiasm to complete another project with no effects, matrix transforms, animations, etc. If mark ever sets himself to the task of working on that stuff maybe I'll write another one, but for now I'm still happy with Arclight |
| [22:17:09] | stuartm: | emphasises clean lines/layout over flashy effects |
| [22:17:54] | iamlindoro: | eg, this one, which I am very happy with but still feel too restrained: http://www.fecitfacta.com/cadence.png |
| [22:19:01] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: I'd be implementing one or two new things to make this theme work, text rotation (which may or may not lead to a full transformation feature) and fair few additional statetypes etc |
| [22:20:24] | iamlindoro: | cool |
| [22:22:49] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: I like the direction of that one, although it's not clear where I should be looking, without spoiling the minimal look you might add some lines dividing up the screen/content or similar |
| [22:24:04] | iamlindoro: | sort of moot, it's stalled |
| [22:24:30] | iamlindoro: | I need buttonlist animations, transition effects, matrix transforms to accomplish what I had in mind, so I've just given up instead |
| [22:25:13] | iamlindoro: | heh, date on the screenshot, last I touched it was March |
| [22:28:16] | stuartm: | I'd love to tell you that I planned to implement all those things soon, but I can't |
| [22:28:50] | iamlindoro: | I didn't figure |
| [22:30:43] | stuartm: | one of the reasons I'm even considering doing another theme is to keep myself interested in improving mythui albeit in small incremental ways |
| [22:31:52] | iamlindoro: | Mark and I have spoken about his desire to add effects, animation, etc. to MythUI, but he didn't want to be stuck handling the theming/XML parsing/etc. portions of it, he's more interested in implementing the effects |
| [22:32:35] | iamlindoro: | So maybe he'll become interested in that again, that'd be great |
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