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| [00:28:34] | k-man: | mrand: are you saying i could make chagnes to .23 to fix it and then submit patches to upstream? |
| [00:29:02] | mrand: | k-man: yes, but you should do what iamlindoro suggests first (right below my previous note) |
| [00:29:32] | k-man: | iamlindoro: how do i clear the theme cache? |
| [00:29:41] | iamlindoro: | rm ~/.mythtv/themecache/* |
| [00:29:56] | k-man: | iamlindoro: and how do i go about applying change sets one by one to work out which ones are useful? |
| [00:30:08] | k-man: | thanks |
| [00:30:16] | iamlindoro: | You read the changelog for the theme in question and apply the changes based on the diffs |
| [00:30:36] | iamlindoro: | but again, we wouldn't want patches, just a note requesting that the relevant changesets be backported on the dev list |
| [00:30:45] | k-man: | yeah, i see |
| [00:35:10] | k-man: | but in my case, i should check out the .23 fixes branch, and then start applying relevant change sets from trunk? how does one go about doing that? |
| [00:36:27] | iamlindoro: | There is little if anything in trunk MythCetner that ins't in .23 MythCenter |
| [00:36:41] | iamlindoro: | in fact, I'd say there may be *no* functional changes in trunk's mythcenter |
| [00:37:09] | k-man: | really? i did a diff on track and found there were quite a few differences, but then again, i could have been using trac incorrectly |
| [00:37:17] | k-man: | s/track/trac |
| [00:38:04] | iamlindoro: | the only changes are DTD compliance changes, not functional ones |
| [00:38:16] | k-man: | iamlindoro: hmm... that's interesting |
| [00:38:42] | k-man: | i definately see big differences in how it displays but as you say, it could be a cache issue as I didn't realise i needed to flush the cache |
| [00:39:09] | iamlindoro: | There are definitely not big differences between trunk and .23 MythCenter |
| [00:39:28] | iamlindoro: | If there are *any* visible differences, they will be extremely subtle |
| [00:40:24] | iamlindoro: | .23 only came out last Monday, most if not all of the changes to the theme during feature freeze were backported to .23, and very very little has happened since |
| [00:40:40] | k-man: | well, the differences for me are that the fonts are much smaller in trunk (bear in mind that i just used the trunk theme in .23 fixes) and some of dialogues like the "are you sure you want to quit" button fills the whole screen |
| [00:40:57] | k-man: | but i will double check later |
| [00:41:01] | k-man: | not at home now so can;t |
| [00:46:00] | k-man: | i'd really like to see a screen shot of the schedule recording screen in mythcenter 4:3 to compare how mine looks, i suspect part of the problem could be a font issue |
| [00:46:10] | k-man: | it would be good to know i'm not trying to fix the wrong thing |
| [01:06:48] | mrand: | k-man: you saying your 4:3 screen compared to someone elses? |
| [01:07:54] | iamlindoro: | Perhaps it woudl be more useful for you to take a screenshot and show us what you think is broken |
| [01:08:51] | iamlindoro: | If something has changed, it would likely be a lot easier for me to tell you where the XML in question is, and I could backport any relevant fix, too |
| [01:29:57] | k-man: | mrand: yeah |
| [01:30:22] | k-man: | iamlindoro: ah, good idea, ill take screen shots of .23fixes and trunk tonight |
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| [10:17:06] | k-man: | iamlindoro: are you awake? |
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| [13:35:33] | k-man: | iamlindoro: how would you like me to send those screenshots to you? |
| [13:43:14] | mrand: | k-man: how about some place like imagebin? |
| [13:47:08] | k-man: | hmm... ok |
| [14:24:56] | k-man: | ok. this is what mythcenter .23fixes looks like in mythtv .23: http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1640 |
| [14:26:44] | k-man: | this is what mythcenter trunk looks like in mythtv .23: http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1641 |
| [14:27:11] | k-man: | notice how the font size is smaller in trunk and that means you can read the whole field in the schedule recordings screen |
| [14:27:39] | k-man: | both of these were as at changeset 24733 |
| [14:28:03] | k-man: | note, i am running this under the marillat .debs of .23-fixes |
| [14:28:18] | k-man: | ok, thats it – time for bed, nite all |
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| [16:40:41] | iamlindoro: | k-man: the difference appears to be a difference in the fonts installed on your end-- is that on two different boxes? I've just done a diff between .23 and trunk and unless I've missed something there are no functional font changes whatsoever |
| [16:41:10] | iamlindoro: | specifically, it appears the "trunk" box doesn't have some of the fonts installed |
| [16:41:40] | iamlindoro: | The .23 screenshot is as it should appear (or at least, is as it is written) and how trunk appears on my system |
| [16:50:31] | mrand: | Of course, the not-so-funny part is that the one that is "wrong" looks better to me. |
| [16:51:07] | iamlindoro: | Spoken like someone who has never had to put up with the ire of users |
| [16:51:14] | iamlindoro: | MUH!!!! NOW I NO CAN READ IT! |
| [16:51:21] | iamlindoro: | WHY DON'T THE FONT SETTINGS WORK??? |
| [16:51:32] | iamlindoro: | TWO STEPS FORWARD ONE STEP BACK STUPID MYTHUI |
| [16:51:36] | mrand: | hehehehe |
| [16:52:37] | mrand: | Unfortunately I'm kinda stuck with MythCenter because I don't have time to do my own 4:3. :-( |
| [16:53:11] | iamlindoro: | Several of the 16:9 themes work nicely in 4:3, or so I hear |
| [16:53:37] | gbee: | iamlindoro: which is wrong/right? |
| [16:53:51] | gbee: | no, wait, I probably don't want to know or care |
| [16:54:12] | iamlindoro: | gbee: The former/.23 is "as written," the trunk is "as broken," I'll leave which is "right" as an exercise to the user |
| [16:54:36] | iamlindoro: | Since I'd rather nuke the hell out of the whole theme, I'm not the right one to ask |
| [16:54:45] | gbee: | mythcenter still needs serious work, it's still little more than a copy/fallback to default |
| [16:55:12] | mrand: | I thought I checked the wide themese after deploying 0.23, but maybe I should check again. Most of them cut off enough info I had to switch. |
| [16:56:32] | iamlindoro: | mrand: how come the ubuntu forums are so full of stupid self-entitlement? |
| [16:56:56] | gbee: | with Terra + English there shouldn't be any truncated strings, the same should be true for metallurgy but only for the screens which were ported to mythui (it's not complete) |
| [16:57:37] | iamlindoro: | gbee: Think he means when used on a 4:3 screen |
| [16:58:37] | gbee: | oh, yeah, sorry I'm not really paying a lot of attention, I've got guests over and I'm just taking brief refuge ;) |
| [16:58:46] | mrand: | lol |
| [16:59:05] | mrand: | iamlindoro: hard to say regarding the forums. Just like mythtv-users, aren't they? |
| [16:59:19] | iamlindoro: | mrand: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1485477 |
| [16:59:28] | iamlindoro: | Thankfully it usually doesn't get *that* offensive on the mailing list |
| [16:59:30] | mrand: | Most of that stuff can be ignored... the important users will either ignore, or beat them back. Not worth a developers response in general. |
| [16:59:30] | iamlindoro: | but sometimes |
| [17:00:39] | mrand: | indeed. |
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